Foles Cleared, Back At Practice

foles_940_102013Nick Foles has been medically cleared to return to action and was back at practice Tuesday as the Eagles begin their preparations for the Raiders.

Foles was first up in the passing drills at the beginning of practice, indicating that he is atop the depth chart to start the week. Offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur said that he and Matt Barkley would split the reps 50-50 for now.

“We’ll get a feel for where Nick’s at,” said Shurmur. “He had a good day of meetings, he’ll practice today and we’ll see where we’re at.


"This is his first day back so we'll just see how he responds to the reps he gets."

Foles sustained a concussion against the Cowboys and was forced to sit out last week versus New York. Michael Vick got the start but re-injured his hamstring, forcing Barkley into action. Vick was at practice as well Tuesday and got some throwing in, though he is expected to miss Sunday's game at a minimum.

  • 1972

    Here we go boys!!!! No more, start foles, I wanna see what he has, he’s a better qb than vick.
    Its on you for the remaninder of the season.
    No excuses no controversy. Go play football. You got 8 games to change the eagles 1st round pick for 2014

    • nicksaenz1

      I’m not going to say he’s a better QB than Vick, but he certainly has the opportunity to become better than him. Agree with everything else. He’s playing for his job next year as a starter either here or elsewhere.

    • GEAGLE

      YES Sir!!!! FOles doesn’t even need to prove that he is a franchise QB, but he does need to prove that he is ATleast a viable stop gap option, that can win games for us so that we don’t need to desperately trade away the farm because we absolutely have to draft a QB…he needs to show constant improvement and be good enough to play a year or two until we have a chance at drafting a QB without trading away all our assets…I like his chances..

      I he can prove to be a viable stop gap option, who knows what he can develope into once we sorround him with weapons who can catch a short pass, break tackles and rack up YAC yards….we simply don’t have enough playmakers that can work with an intermediate passer…but once we start adding those players, who knows how good FOles can be,,,
      ….
      I know that Nick will be a QB that you can win games with in this league….the question is, can he grow into a guy that keeps us from looking to improve that postion? Today the answer is NO, but it would also be silly to write him off at this point….

  • Justin

    I hope it’s James Casey.

  • Adam

    Your chances are running out Mr. Foles, make it count.

    • nicksaenz1

      Probably his last chance before he loses his spot to Barkley for good.

      • 1972

        if he loses his spot to barkley, I might have to switch teams.

        • theycallmerob

          just don’t come back when we’re good

          • 1972

            that was an obvious joke. relax eagle nation

          • theycallmerob

            I think, with some posters coming out of the woodwork this week to lay the “woe is me, I’m done with the Eagles” line, sarcasm is just hard to spot right now.

        • DEBO 215

          That’s a violation. Don’t come back when they draft Marriota.

          • 1972

            Im not going anywhere debo. and stop using violation. It aint yours!!! lol

          • DEBO 215

            hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • Mike

      Yeah; not to be a downer but is everyone forgetting how he played last year?

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        Apparently

      • bentheimmigrant

        Like a rookie?

      • Birds4life

        Oh, you mean behind a line that was without 4 out of 5 starters and without Shady and DJax for most of those starts. No, I didn’t forget. Just not holding it against him. He actually played pretty good in those games, all things considered.

      • theycallmerob

        you’re about 4 months too late with that BS. see every article from the summer

      • Vick Must Go

        Rookie year, seriously? Look at Peyton Mannings 1st 8 starts, post your findings as a reply to me. I dare you. Waiting…

      • Weapon Y

        Not great, not terrible. He wasn’t bad. He played great against Tampa, and pretty well in the second Dallas and Washington games. First Dallas game was up and down, Cincy and 1st Washington were very bad. His rookie year was WAAAAAAAY better than Barkley’s. Not even close. Foles showed enough to deserve a chance at the starting job in the future. Barkley has not done that yet. Foles lost the job in 2013, and rightfully so, but only because Vick was so fool’s gold in the preseason that I even I bought in. Yeah, I am now skeptical of Foles after that Dallas game, but with Vick’s potential completely gone and Barkley looking pretty bad, you might as well give Foles a chance to redeem his one and only bad game this year.

    • Loke1988

      Yet how many chances has Vick had over his career? He keeps repeating the same mistakes yet he gets chance after chance. At least Foles looked like he was progressing up until the Dallas game. I still say it was the groin. He’s just not the type to use injury as an excuse.

  • Goldenram

    Whatever happens leave Foles in there for the last 8 games. Vick is not the answer Too unreliable

    • Vick Must Go

      YES!!! ALL CAPS…. YES!!!

  • Kev_H

    Great! I’d like to see Foles start from here on out. He’ll have some clunkers like Kaepernick, RG III, and everyone else who has played football in the NFL, but if he can play 5 or 6 good games out of the next 8, I’d pencil him in and pick another 2nd-to-4th round QB in the 2014 draft and be happy with Foles, Barkley, and draftee + the money saved and stock up on talent at WR and defense.

    • Nah__Roots

      Don’t say Foles in the same breath as Kap and RGIII. Just..don’t.

      • Broadcasting Wisdom

        Even after the worst game of his career, Foles is still miles ahead of Kaep and RG III in QB rating, interceptions, and touchdown passes (pro rata), and they are all even in completion percentage and YPA. They don’t belong in the same sentence if we’re talking about a track meet, but as quarterbacks Kaep and RGIII are certainly not out of the realm of comparison with Nick Foles. RG III has a worse record than the Eagles, and Kaep had one quality win to open the season and then got shut down by Seattle and Indianapolis. The recent mirage of a 5-game win streak is against Jax, StL, Hou, Ari, and a Jake Locker-less Titan squad.

        I know it’s fun in this internet age to watch a QB stink up the joint (which Foles unquestionably did) and then announce that he is terrible, but the reality is Kaep and RGIII have both thrown up clunkers bigger than Foles this year and last year (and neither had his highs against NYG/Tampa). I think that was Kev’s point.

        As for me, I am just thankful Foles will get another shot. His career could go either way. Thankfully it is an away game so the whole stadium won’t boo him when he throws an incompletion or goes three and out, and he might be able to get his confidence back up to grip it and rip it. Here’s to hoping!

        • 1972

          You don’t really have to make your case for Foles at this point. He’s the starter for the foreseeable future.
          Its his job to lose. So there shouldn’t be any excuses if he happens to lose it.
          You like the guy I get it, but do you really think hes as good as or better than Kaep and Rg3? If you do, you kinda lose credibility.

          • Broadcasting Wisdom

            Do I think this minute Foles is better? No.
            Do I think Foles has the potential to become better than an average NFL starter like Kaep and RGIII are? Yes. Do I wish Reid had drafted Russell Wilson instead? Absolutely. But I could also see his career going the opposite way and him be out of the league in 3 years. Time will tell.

          • EaglePete

            dude, Kaep is going to be a top QB in this league for a while. I agree all QBs have bad games and also am hoping Foles gets over the hump but no way is he close to these guys. Not yet of course and he will never have the athleticism they do either. That part helps them as younger QBs, create a play out of nothing. Foles doesnt have that so his learning curve may be longer. I just think Kaep throws an amazing ball, great arm strength and shows flashes of incredible play at times. We saw it last season with RG3, anything but mediocre really. Sure, they may end up that way but its all relative in terms of the teams they are on of course. Same can be said of Wilson with that run gm and defense. Totally agree with Justins comment about the all or nothing mentality. On a msg board no less, there is no allotted time to reflect, it changes by the week with the wins and losses.

          • 1972

            those two qbs arm strength alone make them better than foles. not to mention accomplishments

        • JoJo

          Sports media in today’s day and age has perpuated a myth that QBs must be successful out of the starting gate or they’re busts. This is stereotype is cemented when a rookie QB enjoys any type of success. Go over the laundry list of guys dubbed “The Next Big Thing” over the past five years – it’s rather amusing.
          In no way am I intimating that Nick Foles is the second-coming, but nor am I about to write a guy off just because he’s played poor (at times) in a part-time role over parts of two seasons for two different head coaches with two different offensive strategies.
          But this all-or-nothing mentality has got to stop. No one is Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers right out of the gate. Not even Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers.

          • Top Dollah

            I’d rather have a QB that starts slow but has long-term success and not be great for a year then fall off like RGKnee.

      • Top Dollah

        RGIII is a bust and Kaep is only good because he has amazing players around him.

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          Neither one of them are busts. RGIII should have never played this season…or at least most of the season. Plenty of QBs can have “good” teams around them and still suck. So that Kep statement is bogus. Both of them will be starting in this league well after Foles has been regulated to backup status.

      • Kev_H

        Why not? The 49ers have done worse with Kap than they did the previous 26 games and RGIII is just horrid.

    • Vick Must Go

      Agree. Only 3 possible outcomes. He is amazing, and therefore our 2014 QB (or trade fodder). He is mediocre, and therefore our 2014-15 backup, or he is terrible and the page is turned. All three of these are good outcomes… but not knowing is a bad outcome.

  • BlindChow

    I’m just glad we’ll get a chance to see how he responds to his embarrassment against the Cowboys.

  • jabostick

    I think Tim mentioned it on a recent podcast but Chip might want to draft a new QB regardless in 2014 – a good stretch by Foles might mean an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder given all the teams that have QB needs.

    • Token

      Nobody is giving anything near that high for Nick Foles.

      • jabostick

        I wouldn’t either but history suggests it isn’t far-fetched.

        • 1972

          A.j feeley and kevin kolb went for 2nd round picks. He’s better than both of those players

          • jabostick

            Yep. I don’t have the trade values (and some were FA signings) but Matt Flynn, Schaub, Scott Mitchell (??) were all backups that other teams fell in love with. Kirk Cousins was a hot name too for a while. Charlie Whitehurst, Matt Cassell, etc…

          • cliff henny

            whoa, that’s an ugly list of names

          • Vick Must Go

            Not sure Matt Cassel or Schaub are in the same class as Flynnand Whitehurst. But tracking otherwise.

      • cliff henny

        not after dallas’ game. ask Geagle, he claimed multiple teams were offering 2nd and 5ths last spring. so many qb-less teams, learned to never underestimate desperate teams.

      • Vick Must Go

        How much did teams trade for Matt Flynn?

    • 1972

      I hope we draft a qb . I don’t hate foles, but a want a guy with a better skill set and higher ceiling

  • Will

    Foles flash or fold …NFL = Not For Long…This may be your last interview……Best foot forward on Film Foles…

  • Token

    Are we gonna play the whole “we gotta see how he does during the week”, “I dont know who the QB will be Sunday” game this week once again?

    Heres a idea…….

    Instead of having both guys equally unprepared, how bout you pick one and let him get all the snaps possible.

    • BlindChow

      They did that last week.

    • Andy124

      Hopefully, that’s just for today.

  • cliff henny

    when Eagles draft qb next spring (Manziel), Foles cannot say he wasnt given his chances.

  • Loke1988

    I keep wondering why isn’t anyone, or at least that I’ve heard or read mentioned the fact that Foles played with a bad groin against Dallas? I think he popped it before Tampa but perhaps it got worse after that game or in practice? You ever try and do anything with a pulled groin? Also there wasn’t nearly enough talk about how bad the rest of the team was that same day. If his groin is better I say he lights it up against Oaktown.

    • Adam

      The team and Foles himself have said on multiple occasions that there was no injury. Foles just played bad.

      • BlindChow

        Has Foles spoken to anyone since that game?

        • Adam

          I tried texting him but he wasn’t having any of it

          • Andy124

            He made me pinky swear not to tell anyone that he got a concussion on the first series, so I’m keeping my lips sealed.

      • Andy124

        Because we didn’t hear it enough during the offseason… it’s a smokescreen!

    • Nah__Roots

      LOL. Keep dreaming, pal. The groin was not holding him back.

      • Top Dollah

        Why are you here if you aren’t an Eagles fan? F*** off.

        • Nah__Roots

          Well that’s a new one. I’m an Eagles fan through and through, you twit. But I also have a brain and eyeballs in my skull. If you honestly think that egg Foles laid had anything to do with an imaginary groin issue, then I don’t even know what to tell you. Stop being a blind homer. He played bad and that’s all there is to it. Go listen to any PC, including Foles, and you’ll hear the same thing – no excuses.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Vick powered through groin issues earlier in the year and he didn’t lay an egg like Foles. Folk just need an excuse on why their Golden Boy sucked so badly.

          • bentheimmigrant

            And Vick looked like an idiot when he had to stay in the pocket this week. Woopty do. Are you one of those people who puts a single song on repeat all day?

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Yes he looked bad on one leg. Not b/c of a groin injury. One that folk have said repeatedly wasn’t a factor in Foles game.

          • bentheimmigrant

            You’re the one who decided to make the Vick comparisons. Vick’s arm looked fine this week. He just looked like he had no idea what he was doing.

          • gweeg

            Foles’ everything looked fine when he played Dallas. And yet, he still looked like he had no idea what he was doing. You still haven’t made a point yet.

          • bentheimmigrant

            My point is Big Butt up there comes in every thread and tries to make it “Vick is great, Foles sucks”. It’s not that simple. Vick looked awful when he had to rely on his reads and progressions. As I said above, no one really knows why Foles played so awful, but bringing out Vick to bash him doesn’t really work when he looked just as bad when he stayed home in the pocket.

          • DEBO 215

            100% healthy Vick is better then Foles but the guy is never healthy and banged up his hamstring on a play where he wasn’t even touched.

            Neither of them are very good or reliable.
            #Mariota2014

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            No YOU made it about “Vick is great, Foles sucks” not me. You’re having a hissy fit ’cause I pointed out Foles flaws.

            “Vick looked awful when he had to rely on his reads and progressions”

            Vick looked awful ’cause he was on one leg and couldn’t move, couldn’t step up into throws, couldn’t do anything but stand like a statue for the most part, and he looked pained doing that.

            My point was there was no groin issue to worry about. And if there was you can’t use that solely as an excuse ’cause our other QB has played through groin injuries and still didn’t look that bad.

            Foles simply has a bad game. He lost his confidence and gave up. That’s it. There’s no other mystery to it than that.

          • bentheimmigrant

            Hissy fit? Speak for yourself.

          • Vick Must Go

            Again, love that people vote down your garbage. I’m going to revel in your delirium. Keep chasing the dragon, you just might catch it next time!

          • Birds4life

            Actually, Big Butt, you made this about Vick. Ben was talking about how Foles was playing bad and it might be because of a groin injury and then you came in with “Vick powered through groin issues earlier in the year and he didn’t lay an egg like Foles. Folk just need an excuse on why their Golden Boy sucked so badly.” And then Ben started to bash Vick. That looks like you are saying that Vick is great and Foles sucks. Just saying.
            Vick has been the starter for us the last 3 years and hasn’t been able to produce anything near his 2010 level of play. Vick has been nothing but an outstanding person off the field, a great leader on it but he is not the answer.
            I just want to see the Eagles win again! Give the young guys a shot and see if they can be the answer. Vick has had numerous shots over the past 3 years. The young guys deserve more than 2 shots before we right them off.

          • Vick Must Go

            Vick is awful and Foles has the potential to be mediocre. I’m pulling for the mediocre one. Let’s prove we have a solid backup for whoever we get next year… a rookie, or Cutler, or whoever.

          • theycallmerob

            oh, you mean Vick the athlete? vs. Vick the “qb”? Guess that was a glimpse into his (slower) future as a signal-caller

          • Birds4life

            Kansas City game was a pretty big egg!

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Not even close to the Dallas game. And the ENTIRE offense played badly. 4 turnovers…two on Vick. Receivers who couldn’t get separation. It was a suckfest through and through.

          • Vick Must Go

            Foles had a bad game. Explain Vicks 2011, 2012, and this year. And… go. Waiting…

          • Vick Must Go

            I love that people continue to vote down your garbage. KC was an Egg. The Giants game was an egg. 2011 and 2012 was an egg. Where have you been? I’m starting to think Vick is a chicken given how many eggs he’s laid.

        • Loke1988

          I’m sorry bra. We’re you talking to me?

      • DEBO 215

        I don’t think it was injury related either, but he really was awful.

    • bentheimmigrant

      I think we’re all desperate to understand that game. And I’m sure, somewhere, there is some kind of explanation (maybe his groin, maybe he did get a concussion early, maybe his mother scolded him and he couldn’t get over it). I just doubt we’re going to get it. For me, the main thing is finding out if he can get over it. If he can play consistently anywhere near the TB game level, we’ve got a shot this season.

      • Vick Must Go

        Maybe he got dumped the day before. We’ll never know. Maybe his grandma died. Maybe his sister was seriously ill. These guys are human too. I’m right there with you Ben.

        Vick would have needed 18 grandmas to die in order to account for all his bad games, just in the last 3 years…

    • defroe81

      nope he said himself he was just really off and had a really bad game. can we move on to tebow now…

  • Top Dollah

    Looking forward to Kelly calling more read-option plays for an immobile QB.

    • Vick Must Go

      Not sure why the vote downs here. Kelly seriously needs to change things here. Barkley could have run all day and didn’t

  • Max Lightfoot

    Sit down on him, Amos – make it count, son.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    I guess this is good news. Truthfully I was looking forward to seeing what Sunshine could do with a full week of practice. Ah well…I’m sure we’ll see him again before the season in out.

    • Andy

      I up-voted you solely for the Remember the Titans reference.

  • Will

    1 hour 10 minutes for trade deadline hope a deal gets done….

    • bentheimmigrant

      Any deal in particular?

      • Will

        Curry & Graham for Jairus Bryd

        • Vick Must Go

          Crazy. Trade your future for a guy that will only be on your team for 8 games before hitting free agency. Genius. You do know he only is under contract for 8 more games, and it is against the rules to sign him to an extension until he hits free agency? And he’s stated he wants to be the #1 paid safety? And that doing a second franchise tag would cost about a billion dollars?

          • Will

            No I want them to sign Nate Allen to an very rich Extension….8 million for Soap for 8 months whose gone, 10 million to Chung for 3 years who’s hurt again, Casey got what for 2 catches big deal? Not to mention we are 20 million under the cap. Go out and get a first class FS which this Defense has not had for 5 fu**ing years!

          • Vick Must Go

            Is Jarius Byrd gonna take us over the top this year? No. Will he be on the team next year? Considering he’s hoping to get the biggest contract of all time, likely not. And considering he is looking for the biggest contract, if we really want… we can get him without losing any young talent at the end of this year. Does Curry and Graham both have potential to be pieces of this team for years to come? Yes.

            So why not keep our young D talent, resign Kelce, renegotiate Jackson maybe, Graham should be cheap to resign… and maybe sign some young free agents to multi year contracts that can help us for years to come. Maclin’s contract is up, resign him to something.

          • Will

            So not Bryd okay can see why you made that obvious. Yet Maclin, Kelce, Graham, need to go, Maclin’s knee may not ever be the same and he could be upgraded before he got injured, Kelce is to small lacks run blocking skills, Graham is just a one trick pony who can pass rush needs to go for a true OLB. This is a 4-12 team with so so talent who think they are some Dream Team in reality teams look forward to playing us and beating us. Nate Allen needs to go as well. Half the roster is AR & Marty’s guys who stink at the NFL Level.

            Agree keep Jackson. I am not stupid I am sick and tired of losing !

            We can’t compete with say Denver, Seattle, 49er’s, etc. the whole NFC EAST is 5-14 Outside the NFC EAST Division! Oakland will smack us down and beat us like a red headed step child.

            And if your okay with that you sux as a fan of the Eagles and football itself!

          • Vick Must Go

            I agree with your passion, but I disagree a bit on some of your finer points.

            Graham may need to go. Still hoping he can turn it around…

            Not sure why you want Kelce to go. He was one of the best centers in the league. I think he is struggling to learn this new blocking style, but no way the Eagles turn their back on Kelce. Plus, he is still super cheap to keep for next year working on his rookie contract from the 6th round.

            Maclin will stay because it will be a team friendly 1 year contract. Think of Correl Buckhalter. They will pay him a nominal amount, maybe 1 million, and nothing garaunteed. If it doesn’t work, they can cut him no harm no foul. If he come back, great. Low risk high reward bringing him back.

            Nate Allen is a guy I’m unsure of. Before the entire board goes off on me for this one… eliminate his draft status in your mind. Let’s pretend he was a 7th rounder, or an UDFA that has started for the last 4 years. Would you hate him then, or would you just accept his limitations and want a different starter. If Danny Watkins was a 7th rounder, no one would hate him.

            So if you can reserve your vitriol for Allen, I think you can actually look at him as a valuable back-up worth a back-up salary on your team. If they can pick him up for back-up money while finding someone else to take the 1st team reps, I would welcome him back with open arms.

            The Reid left-overs that really have to go are Celek, Cole, Heramanns, and Avant. All are aging and none are outstanding. Ryans counts 6M against the cap next year, so he needs to restructure or leave as well.

          • Will

            Nate Allen how be it has played better the last 2 games and this is a contract year for him as well so yeah now he is trying. After the new contract he’ll go back to being below average. Yet I have watched him since coming back from injury. Nate seems to play like it’s a business decision not to have contact. When does Nate meet a runner in the Gap or a WR on a crossing pattern and lay someone out. Go watch Kerry Rhodes Last year as a Cardinal against us. That is the kinda play I look for out of a Safety in the mold of BDawk or a Ronnie Lott type.

            Kelce is getting man handled all over the place in blocking and is under sized. Graham is a great rotational DE in a 4-3.

            Maclin is a another high draft pick whose production has been borderline.

            Thing is this is a 4-12 team talent wise. Hard choices need to be made to redo this roster. I realize you are talking about people’s livelihood yet the so so talent is not getting it done. The red zone production is just not there.Besides McCoy & Jackson there is not much talent on this team. You have got to get honest with what you have as a sub-par team. Then you got to look at improving the O-Line and D-Lines the game is won or lost in the trenches. Defenses win championships. We are 32 in defending the pass and yards surrender those are the ugly facts.

          • Vick Must Go

            You can’t ignore what Kelce did for the last 2 years. And he’s coming off a major injury. Typically it takes a full year to come back from it. Kelce is a building block of this O-Line w/ Johnson and will be here for a long time.

            You have some good points about Nate Allen. I’m hoping that this improvement in his play is not contract oriented, but rather scheme oriented. What I mean by this is defensive players have played worse for the Eagles for years under Reid then they did at their previous or next team. Clemons was a beast before he came here… couldn’t get on the field and was traded with a 4th for Tapp… and Clemons continues to be a beast now in Seattle. Bunkley was mostly cut from us, and was continuing to start in New Orleans. Nnamdi was good in Oakland, sucked here. DRC was good in Arizona, sucked here, and is good again in Denver. Gocong continued to start in Cleveland. Teo Neshium is a starter for another team. I’m hoping scheme/coaching was so bad that it made the players look worse, and now with a better scheme/coaching, Allen is shining.

            Maclin has underperformed. But would you be happy with him as our #2 WR if he was a 4th round pick? I think he is a decent #2, or a very good #3. If you can divorce yourself from his draft status, you can see the value. Bring him back on the cheap for a year, see what you have… low risk high reward.

            Still alot of 4-12 talent on this team, but don’t cut 24-25 year old players still with room to grow on a cheap rookie contract. Cut the old players that are on the decline and expensive. Soap is gone. Heramannas, Celek, and Avant all need to go. Likely Cole too. Ryans need to restructure.

          • Will

            All great points…Yet if the Team is to improve you have to be honest about what you have and be willing to make changes based on execution alone.

            Kelce is hard cause he’s worked so hard to fight back from two knee injuries but if he continues to get pushed around in pass protection or unable to run block what good is he. This is a what have you done for me lately league. Maclin was not a premier receiver before the injury and now you have to wait and see if he can recover from his second knee injury. I can see Herremans in a back up role next year not a starter, would like to see Barbre this year at RG. Celek is 28 and Avant is 30 and both are work horses it’s up to the QB to utilize them properly. I would keep both hands down for they are very durable. Both player’s are very productive in their specific roles and work extremely hard. They are excellent role models and leaders as well.

            The team needs a QB maybe. I don’t foresee MV#7 coming back next year due to being injury prone. They need more stability from the QB spot ( jury still out on Foles for me) Field Goal Kicker, Center, OG ( unless Barbre shines in there), OT, #1 WR, NT, OLB, CB, SS and a FS.

            If you want to improve on 4-12 these are the player’s who need replaced. So you have to find better player’s for Henry, Kelce, Herremans, find Peters successor, Maclin needs to go you need a big body tall speedster to compliment DJax and be a threat in the red zone. An Anquan Boldin type of player. You need a true heavier NT, Logan, Thorton, and Geathers might work. Trent Cole you need a true rushing OLB with coverage skills, Barwin is the only true 3-4 OLB currently on the team. Yet you could live with the ILB’s we have. You will need a 3rd starting caliber CB for depth and to push the starters. Wolff, and Nate Allen need to be replaced . Those two player’s are part of the weakest link on this Defense and make up one fouth of the secondary.

            All 4 LB’s, all of the CB’s & both Safeties are responsible for giving up those huge chunks of yards. All those positions need to work together. The CB’s have been addressed and now the Safety spots need serious upgrades. If you get the new Safeties playing at an extremely high level and still are giving up huge amounts of passing yards. Then it would be time to look over your ILB”s for upgrades. Make no mistake about it Defenses win Championships.

            Those are the 10 positions I hope to see new faces at next season or sooner. If Foles can prove to be serviceable and the young trio at NT works then it is just 8 positions of need to turn this team around. Money should be spent in FA on the #1 WR and the DB’s (CB,SS,FS). I prefer seasoned Vets back there. The other 5 positions you can pick up in the draft a Kicker, OLB,C,OG,OT.

            A mix of Vets on the O-Line is ideal if you can bring in starters from around the league.I would explore that route first as well before using any valuable draft picks. You may very well have the O-Lineman on this roster , Vandervelde, Barbre, and Tobin, ect. Hard to say without seeing them out there on game day against other teams. The games are won and lost in the trenches. I doubt Kelly keeps the kicker unless he gets reliable from 45-55 yards out. All of the new player’s should not have injury issues.

            I would spare no expense to build a formidable secondary. Our Defense is 32nd in passing yards given up. Wouldn’t mind a OLB or FS from the next draft class in RDs. 1 &2 if a QB is gonna cost us a lot of picks to get or doesn’t fall to us. You may need a QB in the end but Foles can hold the fort down while you finish upgrading the roster to go around your QB of the Future.

          • Will

            Did not realize all the draw backs to get Bryd. Just got spoiled by BDawk, and other great Safeties over the years. Thanks for educating me. Ronnie Lot the list goes on putrid what we have had for an excuse of Safeties.

  • Dustan M. Howell

    Captain checkdown to the rescue!!!!!! The #eagles’ QB of the future clearly is not on the roster. #eaglesnation

    • BlindChow

      Checkdowns require completed passes. At this point, I would be overjoyed to see some completed passes.

      • bentheimmigrant

        Especially considering that (from my understanding of the way Kelly’s offense works, which may well be inadequate) for many throws the QB should have chosen his target before the ball was snapped.

    • Dustan M. Howell

      And Super Bowl winning teams require QBs that do a little more than checkdown. The #Eagles are not going anywhere with Nick Foles in the present or future. He’s not an NFL starting QB.

      • EaglePete

        welcome to the site #downvote

        • Vick Must Go

          Well played Pete

  • defroe81

    read option plays and tebow go hand in hand… screw foles, vick, and barkley pick up the holy one…

    • DEBO 215

      No0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0….no,no,no,no,no,no…no0oo0o0o0o0o0o0o

  • GEAGLE

    BEAUTIFUL MAN!!!! Saint Nick will get the opportunity to do his thing and shred a good Raiders defense….the raiders don’t have a top defense, but they play very hard, and fast at home where we historically have always struggled..raiders defense was swarming and hitting hard Sunday against the steelers. I like that FOles gets a chance to rebound on the road, in a very tough place to play, against a tougher test than the cowboys or Giants defense…,

    I don’t get excited over FOles playing a game here and there,.,but this is the first chance the kid can show what he can do given continuity…Vick won’t even be a consideration til the bye week…so it’s very exciting to see how FOles can grow from one game to the next given continuity….really hoping he doesn’t suffer any injury setbacks….whether he is great or horrible, it means very little until we see what he can do with continuity…very excited!!!

  • DEBO 215

    Vick is done. Foles will get another crack at it and as bad as he is, he can’t be any worse then Barkley or his performance against Dallas.
    Just run the damn ball Chip…

    Is Dennis Dixon available?

  • GEAGLE

    TRADE NEWS….Looks Like Soap is headed to the Patriots…waiting to hear what type of compensation we receive

    • Andy124

      Yup. Patriots must not have been happy with their QB situation. Pretty clear Brady is struggling because he doesn’t have the arm strength to stretch the field like Soap does.

      This is good news. Soap seems like a cool dude. Glad he gets to go play for a really good team and glad we will get something for him. He wasn’t adding a lot on the field for us.

    • theycallmerob

      GREAT news. Dead weight at this point, I’d prefer even Logan get those snaps (he needs more smoothies).
      Any compensation is more than we’d get from releasing him in a few months.

  • Loke1988

    Why does it suck trying to use an iPad to comment?