Eagles Trade Sopoaga To Patriots

Eagles DT Isaac Sopoaga on field warm-upThe Eagles have traded defensive tackle Isaac Sopoaga and a sixth-round pick to New England for a fifth-round draft choice in 2014, per a league source.

The nine-year vet did not perform up to expectation in his short stint in Philadelphia, posting 10 tackles in eight games.

The 32-year old was inked to a three-year, $11 million deal this offseason that included a $2.75 million signing bonus. His $1 million base salary this season is fully guaranteed, as is $1 million of his base next season.


Sopoaga was a steady player up front for San Francisco over his first eight NFL seasons, and looked like he would be a necessary piece for Bill Davis as he transitioned the defense to a two-gap 3-4, but had less of an impact than anticipated.

He saw a season-high 47 snaps this past week against the Giants as the defense played base for much of the game.

The Sopoaga trade means an increased workload for rookie Bennie Logan, whom the organization is high on. Fellow rookie Damion Square is listed as the backup nose guard on the Eagles' unofficial depth chart.

 

  • theycallmerob

    GREAT news. Any compensation they get is more than the alternative (a release after this year). Didn’t do much, was a 1yr stopgap for NT of the future (bigger stronger Logan, Thornton, or some college kid).

    • cliff henny

      1 down about 8 to go. celek and casey should be calling realitors. More cap space please Howie!

      • theycallmerob

        4 pm passed good brother….only the one it seems.

        • cliff henny

          guy with horrible arm tattoos, name escapes me…when did he get released?

          • Justin

            Babin? Near the end of last season. About the time we fired Washburn.

      • EaglePete

        I thought we were already leading the league in cap space or something. If and when this team is ever over or near the cap and are limited then maybe Ill care. Just a part of the game I refuse to read or care about so I let everyone inform me. Not worth googling the letters.

        • cliff henny

          had 18m carrying it over, this probably knock 1.5m off, but frees 2m. carrying all bloated contracts, another 3.5m under next yr, but if howie takes a flamethrower to roster, easily free another 25m-30m,that’s with resigning peters and d-jax.

          • EaglePete

            thanks

          • cliff henny

            sure…some guys like the scouting, i like the macroeconomics money angle

    • theycallmerob

      And I love that I’ve got enough haters to keep the downvotes coming, but….seriously? Any one have the cajones to actually retort my celebratory post? Or was anything less than a 2nd rounder for our formerly-stud NT just too much to bear?

      • RIP illa

        Didn’t down vote you, but Thorton’s playing his ass off at DE and when moved to the middle, struggles 1/2 the time and the other 1/2, makes no real impact or difference in plays. And I know their high on Logan, but I’ve seen nothing from him that indicates that he’s ready to man the position. He still needs to get his weight/size up as well as his strength. Perhaps next year, cause right now I’m not seeing or liking the 3rd used on him.
        So I’m really not disagreeing w/ you, just don’t understand your Thorton and Logan part. And w/ that being said, I like the Soap deal, wish we didn’t have to give up a pick but whatever. And to Soap…Dueces!!!

        • theycallmerob

          I agree; hence, NT of the future.

          I mean, we all see some of the issues Thornton/Logan are having as a strict NT. But obviously, if they’re getting snaps, can’t be worse than Soap. And I don’t think they were, plus the benefit of a high ceiling (vs. regression from Soap).
          Maybe we’ll see more 4 down linemen? Thornton moving inside to get Curry on the field more? Dunno where we go from here, but can’t imagine things falling apart because Big Clean is gone.

          • RIP illa

            Was thinking the 4 down linemen angle, since I have been hoping for that since the beginning of the season, but mainly in obvious pass rush situations. I’m not saying way off base or even somewhat off base. I wouldn’t put it pass Davis to do those kinda moves. Just was wanting to understanding your reasoning for saying what you did.

      • mtn_green

        Begging for down votes, happy to obliged. Trade is good though. Hope Logan steps up.

        • theycallmerob

          gracias amigo! I was worried I wouldn’t be able to sleep tonight if enough people didn’t hate on my work.

          • Vick Must Go

            I like your work…

    • BHOtheLiar

      Saved a few $ too.

  • JofreyRice

    Stupid signing in the first place. Glad they got something in exchange for him, but it wasn’t news that Sopoaga was not a difference maker. At 30 years old, this signing never made sense.

    I’m pretty sure roster bonuses are paid in full to vets–cap experts correct me if I’m wrong. If that is the case, then Howie signed a 30 year old guy for 3.75 mil to make 8 tackles.

    And the bottom line is, we could have had a better NT. Ugh.

    • cliff henny

      even when howie does something right, it’s really only partially fixing a pre-existing F-up.
      .
      no clue how he got a 5th for soap, he was absolutely awful. got shoved 2-3 yards back on every play

      • JofreyRice

        Well, whoever taught him to clean up after himself is doing better than I am with my 3 year old. Unfortunately I think they have about the same skill level at evaluating NFL talent. Sorry, I can’t congratulate Howie on trading a useless old player that he JUST SIGNED a half a year ago. What was he then? Why sign him in the first place?

        At what point can we stop admiring his cap management and administrative wizardry and start seeing some NFL talent hit the field when he makes moves?

        • theycallmerob

          he came from SF. ever think that maybe Gamble had a role in it? or even Kelly, who saw our DL (thornton, dixon, and cox) and said let’s grab that ol’ dude for a year?
          I don’t get how everything is always, automatically Howie’s fault. I know you pry think I’m his brother; if anything, I look at the man and see “wary” due to my synesthesia. But you seem to feel the same way about him as Dutch does about Foles and Berwin (should have never been born)

          • cliff henny

            think foles came into Dutch’s home and kicked his dog or something.

          • EaglePete

            Howie deserves criticism until he does something worthy of praise.

          • theycallmerob

            that does seem to be the prevailing attitude among many.

            I hope he writes a memoir one day, after he’s chased out of the city.

          • JofreyRice

            all jokes aside, I’d love for someone from the Reid/Banner/Roseman years to actually tell the real story of how things went down.

          • RIP illa

            Reid already hinted at it when he talked about the Watkins pick. Saying that was ‘Howie’s guy’. So that would refute what Lurie tried to sell us about how Howie had no input or decision making power until 2012. I personally never believed that he was subject to answering to everybody and not having any responsibility. I can’t see why Reid would lie about that either. Seeing as how he has moved on and was doing well in KC at the time that he said this. Plus his legacy is already set, while still being “questionable”, so to speak, as a head coach in Philly.

          • JofreyRice

            Thanks for the Dutch comparison. I try.

            So Gamble signed him, Howie had no part, yet now receives the kudos for trading him? I think that’s a bit unfair. At what point is Howie responsible for anything? He’s the GM. He’s been the GM. Even if I’m to believe the notion that he had no part in anything pre-2012, it seems he still has alibis for every bad personnel decision that’s made.

            Like I said, I don’t hold a grudge that he boned my high school sweetheart, I’m over it, REALLY. For me, it comes down to his evaluation ability; salary cap hot-oil massages and mid-round trades aside, the actual football talent on this team has taken a nosedive since he’s been at the controls.

          • theycallmerob

            Trust me, I don’t disagree at all with what you’re saying about the talent evaluation. But if this trade never happened, in 5 months we’d be yelling even louder about the waste of $ that Soap was before his inevitable release at year-end. I’m coming at this strictly from the perspective of “getting something for (literally) nothing”. The Howie kudos were more tongue-in-cheek, sorry to rile you up.
            I’m giving him until May- spend a year with Chip, formulate the players to go after, let the new scouts work, and see if we don’t grab some studs in FA and the draft.
            You may still convert me, like Cliff, to the Church of Bad Howie yet.

          • Token

            Who is the boss? Is Howie the GM? Its always his fault.

          • theycallmerob

            I don’t see the world so simply

          • Token

            I think you do.

            It seems to be as simple as:
            Eagles do anything = great!
            Every Eagles player = awesome!

          • theycallmerob

            If that’s all you’ve comprehended from my posts, it appears your analytical skills are just as bad outside of football

          • Vick Must Go

            And your views are as simple as

            Vick does anything = great!
            Vick does anything bad = Cooper/Kelly/O-Line/Chupacabra’s fault

          • knighn

            Ok: the Chupacabra part was funny!

          • Vick Must Go

            Glad you appreciated it. I tickled myself on that one…

            But I have to give credit to Cartman… just saw his pursuit of the Jewpacabra on South Park. Classic.

          • Token

            lol.

            Yea…. Ive been known to be a pretty huge Vick fan.

          • Vick Must Go

            Token, I’m a Jackwagon. You were solidly in my anti-Vick corner. Not sure how I flubbed that…

          • Andy124

            Yea, I think you’ve got some screen names mixed up here. lol

            I don’t know that Token has ever had a kind word to say about Vick… nor anyone else on the Eagles’ payroll.

          • Vick Must Go

            You are so right! Not sure how I flubbed that. Token was one of the guys in my anti-Vick corner. I owe him a huge apology.

          • Andy124

            You may still convert me, like Cliff, to the Church of Bad Howie yet.
            They’ll never talk me in to joining that church. Howie might drop me off there in a limo one day though.

          • cliff henny

            we all have our Eagles tasks in life….mine, converting those to johnny football

          • theycallmerob

            Reckon mine is just frustration

          • cliff henny

            there’s nothing easy about being an Eagles fan.

          • Vick Must Go

            Mine, converting those to anti-Vick

          • Andy124

            Would you say this year’s squad is more talented than last year’s squad?

          • JofreyRice

            I’d say we’re even. Bradley Fletcher is a better CB than either DRC or Nnamdi, but Cary Williams is about on-par with them; he’s just physical, and like Howie, cleans up his own mistakes. We still have one player that is at the top 5 at his position in the league–and that position has a very short shelf life. Peters isn’t that anymore. Maybe Cox could be that…but I don’t think he’s there yet.

            I think the team is still somewhere in the back half of the league as far as football talent goes. Do you think singing Sopoaga helped the team win games or play better defense, at all?

          • Andy124

            I think the team is better at all 3 levels of defense this year than last. Better talent (Donnie Jones) on ST. And overall about even on O. So to me, they’ve improved this year over last.

            I’d still put them easily in the bottom half of the league.

            I’m not sure if singing Sopoaga helped them win, but I’m sure he has a lovely voice. Honestly, I don’t know what other NT were available, but I was totally on board with signing a warm body for that position since we had no way of knowing what we’d be able to land in the draft or if anyone on the roster could achieve even “below average” at that position.

          • JofreyRice

            There were other, better NT’s available. I’m not going to bore anyone by going through it again.

          • cliff henny

            of course they were better, soap sucked…but did they take team friendly 1 yr stop gap contracts?

          • JofreyRice

            Honestly, I could give a damn. I want to see a winning team. I want good players on the team. If you can’t draft them, sign them. Saving a ton of money by signing bums you’ll trade later for a bucket of warm spit doesn’t really do much to make me feel “upbeat”.

          • cliff henny

            this last batch of signingsdidnt bother me. could have casey’d themselves a couple more times, and we’d be complaining about that. should have nice chunk to get at least 2 impact free agents, if not 3. i’ll give howie 1 more off-season till i’m a full convert to the hate howie fanclub…i’m looking at brochures and setting aside union dues, that’s for sure

          • Vick Must Go

            For how much. Why spend the money on a team that isn’t go anywhere? This team has absolutely 0% chance of a super bowl. Let’s place the greatest NT of all time on this team, and we still aren’t winning a super bowl.

          • Vick Must Go

            DRC is killing it in Denver, but Nnamdi is the 5th CB and in danger of being cut in SF.

          • cliff henny

            JR, let’s think this thru…soap was 1m dead next yr if you just sat him. by trading up maybe 20 spots back of the draft, it’ll cost an extra 500-700k in dead money. we might have been to quick to congratulate howie

          • Vick Must Go

            ??? The cost difference between a low 5th and a high 6th is minimal. The 1M from next year is gone, regardless. But… half of this year’s gauranteed salary will be paid for by New England. So a good cost savings regardless.

            At the end of the day, is Soap markedly better than Square? If not, then why not save 2M ish and get the young guy some snaps.

          • cliff henny

            cash saving yes, but in a trade, trading team takes remaining dead money, why you see so few trades. in end, to cap, doesnt matter if it’s cash or dead money, all takes away from 123m nut.

          • B-West

            You realize that a GM hitting at 100% is just not a real thing right? I’m not arguing to accept failure, just reality.

            If I may capitalize on your brief acceptance of Howie truly taking the reigns in 2012, you don’t like him because you don’t see anything from the 12 draft, you’ve already given up on the 13 draft eight weeks in, you didn’t like Demeco coming in at a reasonable trade cost, you didn’t like the Mathis resigning, you don’t like Chip or Gamble, you’re not buying into this year’s defense making strides…..

            I mean, if you don’t see that he’s done some positive things, maybe you should just lay low on the Eagles for a while. I’m not saying don’t be a fan, but why drive yourself crazy if you hate EVERYTHING about the team.

          • Token

            Can we at least get a GM that hits 15% of the time?

          • Richard Colton

            Quick – the best move Howie ever made in either draft or free agency. Can you name it?

          • theycallmerob

            …did we not all think Nnamdi, DRC, Cullen, and Babin were great moves? Hindsight sure does change minds

          • Token

            Are we the GM? Are you saying Howie has about as good of a football mind as we do?

          • theycallmerob

            ??? Richard asked for his “Best moves”. At the time, many thought those were it- enough to push us over the top. Competing for, and signing coveted FAs, is a job duty of the GM is it not?

          • Token

            So if me or you were GM and just signed whoever ESPN said was the top FA, then thats a good job?

            Id hope a NFL GM does more digging and knows way more about a player than a fan does.

          • theycallmerob

            You’re myopic vacuum is amazing. What do you mean, fans and ESPN? Half the league fought over those guys. Our coaching situation sure had a hand in ruining the team. But I guess Howie should have done a better job coaching too.

          • Andy124

            Anybody seeing the striking parallels here between this
            and the QB debates? One side takes such a strong stance that the other is forced to defend the opposite far more than they’d care to?

          • theycallmerob

            c’est la vie. chalk it up to the decline of the “Moderate” class in this society (well beyond sports)

          • jabostick

            It’s like Republicans vs Democrats. So Barkley is… who’s the new Ralph Nader?

          • theycallmerob

            Ron Paul 2016!!!!

          • cliff henny

            all we’re missing is Dutch vs everyone, even the people that are agreeing with him

          • jabostick

            There is a frighteningly low amount of ALL CAPS right now too. Hope everyone is ok…

          • Andy124

            I promise you, I’m not “missing” that.

          • cliff henny

            yeah, u2 often go 15 rds.

          • Andy124

            Not really. But I do read probably 20% of his posts, which is about 20% too much. I almost never respond to him. I don’t want to hurt his feelings. He clearly has some form of personality disorder.

            That or he’s just some 68 year old retired blowhard who’s family couldn’t stomach his endless, arrogant, incoherent ramblings any longer so they showed him how to get on the internet so he could embarrass himself in the relative anonymity of a message board.

          • B-West

            Great point. Message boards are where reason goes to die.

          • Vick Must Go

            Vick is the worst QB to ever walk the earth. And I only say that because I’m so tired of the Vick Hype. I would not be anti-Vick if everyone could agree that he is a middling QB at this point, completely incapable of delivering a super bowl.

          • Token

            Wasnt like Dallas and one other team the only ones in the running for Aso?

            But ok, Howie beat half the league.

          • EaglePete

            nope, cmon be honest at least. Everyone thought Non D was a big time pickup and quality player. There was little to any predictions of futility. DRC on the other hand, everyone knew the risks.

          • Vick Must Go

            DRC was risky, but worth the risk. Prior pro bowler at a premier position still on a rookie contract making like 1 mill per year. Good gamble, no matter what anyone says.

          • theycallmerob

            I’m not going to even argue your nonsense. Go dig up the articles from back then. That group was supposed to push us over the top, or so said just about everyone in football.

            Reid loved the basket-case players, thought he could shine up every turd….until it all collapsed between the egos, stale scheme, and Worst Coaching Staff Ever.

          • Vick Must Go

            Concur. Other teams offered more money to Nnamdi. So per the reports, we actually got him cheaper than other offers. That has to say something about the GM, regardless of how it turned out.

          • JofreyRice

            Right, and hindsight is the way to appropriately judge those pickups, not fan enthusiasm at the time of the signing.

          • theycallmerob

            C’mon, it’s not like we were the only team after their abilities. No one saw Nnamdi falling off a cliff, the coaching was in disarray, and heck- even DRC can still play some. I don’t see how that is all on Howie, he went out and signed the guys that (most likely) Reid wanted.

          • JofreyRice

            I know the Cowboys and Jets (with Howie’s mentor) Mike Tannenbaum were hot after him. Greg Cosell was on the record saying that there wasn’t much daylight between Ike Taylor of the Steelers and Nnamdi.

          • jabostick

            As bad as the dream team moves were, none of the contracts were bad and they were all ‘escapable’. You can knock the approach that year, but each move in it’s own right were pretty justifiable at the time, and mostly low risk.

          • Vick Must Go

            Super intelligent comment here. Despite the snafu that was the dream team, we have cap room a few years later and didn’t trade away draft picks/future/young players/etc to try it.

          • RIP illa

            Really hating Howie now but absolutely agree w/ that statement.

          • Vick Must Go

            I didn’t like the Nnamdi move, but only because we had DRC and Samuel. Not because of Nnamdi himself.

          • Andy124

            Many would say Chip Kelly.
            (I wanted Mike McCoy).

          • EaglePete

            cmon, be honest Andy you were on the rah rah Gus train like the rest of us. Though not sure what coach could right that ship at this point, man are they bad. I always thought McCoy was a Manning prodigy but adapted with Tebow. Hes looking decent so far. Bowles not doing too shabby as D coord with Cards either eh.

          • RIP illa

            Well then if he only took over in 2012 that means from 2010 up to then he was a GM in name only and puppet! So that’s a great reason not to like someone who had no respect of his peers, boss, and coach to handle his own like a grown ass man. Nor the confidence to do the job that he was given, cause we all know he didn’t earn it. So while your pointing out all the moves he has made since 2012, to leave out 2010 and on is just inexcusable and foolish.

          • B-West

            Because no tenured, successful coach has become the most powerful guy in the building, including taking over most of the personnel decisions. Right.

          • RIP illa

            How about cause no guy w/ experience should be handed a job as critical as that! Or how bout cause nobody w/ the title of GM should be anything like just a figure head. Right!

          • B-West

            For the 100th time, what on Earth would be the point of keeping Howie around when you cleaned house? If you are cutting ties with the Reid era, the easiest part of that is the moving on from Howie. Outside of the given reason, that Howie showed some promise, why on Earth would they bring that guy back? And if he agreed with the flubs from 2010 to 2012, that would not be showing promise!!!

          • RIP illa

            For the 100th time what was the point of Howie being handed the job in 2010 w/ him having no experience other than being under Banner and learning cap management? No scouting experience, no football experience! Nothing but being a beam counter!!! That answer is most likely the same reason he was absolved of every negative moved mad until 2012 and why he still has a job now!!! Give you a hint…it’s a relationship w/ someone’s name who’s initials are JL.

          • Vick Must Go

            He was with the team for years before the GM. So no football experience is a misnomer. Unless you are specifically mentioning playing time, to which I could say that being a good football player does not neccessarily make you a good GM.

          • RIP illa

            That was covered by me saying…”other than him being Under Banner…”

          • Vick Must Go

            You are accurate. Somehow missed that.

          • Vick Must Go

            Just signed Howie to a big contract before the team tanked last year. Can’t just ignore those millions spent on a young guy. Have to keep him around to earn that money and see if he can improve.

            Good comment on NFL radio on Serius the other day. it was a GM from Indianapolis that was talking about the salary cap not being as limiting as the “cash cap” he was dealing with in Indy at certain points. Essentially (made up numbers), the salary cap may have been $120M but the owner could only afford to pay $100M in players. If you spend millions on a GM only to fire him 4 months later, those kind of things will come into play

            People can talk all they want to about spending this money, but it is a nice thing to discuss when it isn’t your money. If I told you to run a business and your family could only live off of the profits. The business would make $150K before salary, and you get to pick the salaries… how much are you going to spend?

          • JofreyRice

            Ah, so only those that are willing to sing hosannas for the team are allowed to follow them? Yikes. Dangerous ideology there.

            You’re discounting free agency and the extensions, as well. Having no other backup plan for Kenny Phillips bum knees besides Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman–again. Trent Cole extended to make him uncuttable until after next year. Ditto on Herremans. James Casey paid to come onto the field on kneeldowns. Patrick Chung. Bradley Fletcher, a number 2 on most teams, a backup on others, is a number 1 here. He is the gem of Free agency. Barwin is serviceable. Demeco had one good year, and is probably gone after the season. None of these guys are making a real difference on a team that has lacked defensive talent for years.

            The frequency with which you have to don your cape to play Captain-Save-A-How, along with the general trend of the Eagles being a bad team doesn’t make you feel a little nervous about your boy? Do you just trust Lurie that implicitly, that he’s absolutely right in his evaluation?

          • theycallmerob

            JR, curious (I know I’ve asked you before, but I drink a lot):
            Who would you have gone after in FA? You critique some of the moves, but what options were there? Fletch has done fine here, so has Barwin. Maybe coulda done better at NT, but I didn’t see a great safety available. It’s a rebuild year, and half the FAs they signed anyway are stopgaps (see their contracts for evidence).

          • EaglePete

            Im just wondering what FAs will want to come to this shitshow next season. I guess money talks to a degree but those arent always the guys you want. Howie has to hit better in upcoming drafts when we are in a better position. Only so many slots yet this team seems to always miss in higher picks or waste ones on useless kickers and backup QBs where testing depth would have helped. Hindsight for sure.

            Nice work though Rob, when I got here it said 33 replies below your post above. At least an interesting thread.

          • theycallmerob

            haha, half of them are mine; and it’s the same argument we had all summer/year. nice to get off work and vent, though.

          • JofreyRice

            I really wanted them to sign Pot Roast Knighton. Huge kid, Temple player, who showed some amazing athletic ability for a 330 pounder, but also a lot of inconsistency. Sean Smith would have been a really nice addition. Can press the way the league is moving towards.

            For Safeties, I would have loved to grab either George Wilson, Bernard Pollard, or Glover Quinn (big $$$). I know you’re not a fan of Pollard, and I know he’s not great in coverage, but he’s undoubtedly a huge hitter, and I think that has an effect on opposing offenses. In a way, it’s what they wanted from Chung, but he was never the hammer that Pollard was.

            Edge rushers are tough to get in FA. I don’t remember having a preference, and I think we knew so little about what the Eagles were doing with the front 7, it was tough to call. At one point, we all thought we had pleny of great ROLB “Predator” types, but none of them have really worked out.

          • theycallmerob

            Obliged. Don’t know I’d argue any besides Pollard :) Didn’t chung sign before a few of those S became available though? And would S. Smith be a big upgrade for his cost? Im ok with the CBs we got with respect to the rebuild/stopgap mentality. And I can’t say I’ve been following Pot Roast or those safeties this year to see how they’re doing comparatively

          • B-West

            So, you’re mad about contracts and FA, when the Birds have plenty of cap space and the overhaul of the defense looks good? Sorry it took 8 weeks, we’ll speed up the ENTIRE OVERHAUL next time. Also, none of the FA signings have severe long term effects, so the team can continue its rebuild thru the drafts. This is a good thing by the way, you should not begin a rebuild by spending a ton in free agency.

            The Save A How line was nice, gotta give you that. As I’ve said before, the guy could be trash and hes definitely made some mistakes. But to expect every signing to be a pro bowler and every draft pick to be a HOFer is such a ridiculous standard, I can’t help but speak up.

          • JofreyRice

            I don’t really care that there is a bunch of dead money, but they spent that money on players that aren’t contributing to making the team better. That I do care about. When you’re forced to play guys you paid that aren’t producing, it detracts from the team as a whole.
            I don’t expect every player to be a probowl or hof player, but how about 1? BTW, players can contribute to winning teams in a lot of ways. Getting traded for a handful of beernuts 6 months after you’re signed is not one of them.

          • Vick Must Go

            Come on now, all teams have these signings. Not all signings go well. SF signed Nnamdi. Indy traded for the disasterous Trent Richardson. Oakland got Flynn, Seattle got Flynn, etc. How do you think New England feels about signing Aaron Hernandez to a huge contract last year? How about St Louis signing Jared Cook to a huge deal?

            If you can’t see that all teams do this, you have no perspective. You can’t argue with Fletchers production. Williams has been a serviceable #1. Eagles are averaging 18.5 points the last 3 weeks. Soap, Chang, and Casey were not great. But Barwin has been solid.

          • Vick Must Go

            No reason to spend money on big time free agents this year when you aren’t going to win a super bowl anyway. Still short a QB and going through a transition. Take the cap space from this year to next year, resign your young talent and make a splash next year (when you actually have a chance).

          • EaglePete

            wait, this sounds similar to a political argument. Just replace Howie with Obama and trade out mid round trades for foreign policy but keep the hot oil massages.

          • theycallmerob

            HAHAHA mega up-vote.

          • UKEagle99

            There is no kudos for either signing him or trading him. It’s hard to believe that Gamble wasn’t involvec in the signing, same goes for Chip and the ex Ducks.

            We can agree that Howie isn’t fit to carry Oz’s pencil to the war room on draft day though. All those advocating tanking the season (like that actually happens) are assuming we hit on the pick which in itself is a bit of a reach.

          • RIP illa

            What about the fact that he’s the man in charge and has the title of GM? Accountability starts at the top. And as GM he has to sign off on every decision. Good or bad moves it’s part of his job to shoulder the praise and blame. If he can’t do so or if Lurie won’t let him and fans don’t hold him accountable, then how can this organization or team hold anybody accountable for their F ups???

          • theycallmerob

            Well, we’ve gone over this a million times. I’m not saying he’s our savior. I’m barely even defending him. But I have a hard time saying he’s solely to blame for things that may/may not be his fault, GM or not. The position isn’t the same across the NFL, who knows how much of a role he has (or ever had) in scouting/talent eval. Yes, he may sign on the dotted line, but I guess if you see that as him being an accomplice so be it.
            As I told JR…I want to wait until May. 1 more offseason. This whole organization has been in such a flux the past few years, and if anything our best 2 drafts were last year and this year (when Howie supposedly had more control).
            Sorry if I’m just not in such a rush to judge. I’ve preached the same mentality re: Foles and Barkley as well. Wait and see.

          • cliff henny

            agree, he gets one more off season, probably. he’s tied to kelly, sure both get at least 2 yrs with new qb.

        • ztom6

          Why sign him? Option value. Same reason as almost the other FAs signed this offseason. They needed an option, nominally speaking, at NT. Now they know they have better, younger options.

      • PK_NZ

        Well we traded a high 6th round pick to a low 5th rounder, so maybe moved up 10 or max 20 spots… basically it was just to dump him off and get little something in return. Maybe it’s just Roseman sucking up to the Pats…

        • cliff henny

          true, in my excitement of getting rid of my most hated ’13 eagle, i missed that…ugh, thanks, was close to giving howie credit. now i have to how much extra dead money 1/2 round move cost us.

      • Vick Must Go

        To clarify, they got a 5th for a 6th. Assuming NE places dead last in the league and the Eagles win the super bowl, that would be the equivalent of a very low 5th round pick. If (considering current record), the Patriots are drafting about 28th and the Eagles around 10th, it equates to a somewhat high 7th rounder.

    • Adam

      Interesting angle. Seems you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t when it comes to moves like this in some peoples eyes. Eagles make a signing like this then part ways mid season and they get harped. Waste of money and now they’re cutting him?

      A team like the 49ers or Ravens do it and they get commended because they were able to own up to their mistakes instead of letting it drag on.

      The Baldwin/Jenkins trade comes to mind first and foremost. Everyone was lauding SF for getting rid of Jenkins. They all said it was the right thing to do, great management skills for turning around a first round pick into something. But no one shits on them even though they completely wiffed on that pick? Could you imagine how much of a field day you’d have with Howie drafting a WR in the first round who couldn’t even find the field his first season, then he gets shipped for another useless bum? Good god man. But no, it was all brilliant tactics.

      Same goes with the Haynesworth signing in NE. Belichick was a genius because he was going to finally turn Haynesworth around into a contributor like he did with Moss. Womp womp womp. Dude was gone after less than 4 months.

      I get that winning and getting Super Bowls leaves some room when it comes to the blame game, but how this much trash talk over a measly 3 mil cap space lost is ridiculous. Who knows how valuable Sopoaga’s presence has been in developing a guy like Thornton or Logan.

      • JofreyRice

        What can I say? I don’t see this as good stewardship. Sign a guy for a nice chunk when there are better guys available, then trade him for next to nothing 8 games later?

        I think you’re going to run into a double standard when comparing good teams with bad ones. I’d argue that right now, the 49ers have one of the most talented rosters in the league, with the luxury of shelving guys like Marcus Lattimore and Tank Carradine who figure to be contributors later. So sure, the AJ Jenkins pick was bad bad bad, but they’ve had a lot of really good picks, too. And you can’t mess with the Oz. How many HOF players has he drafted? The Eagles, as a franchise, just don’t get the same benefit of the doubt.

        • Adam

          I’m not comparing Howie to Oz. My point is that roster moves like this are made regularly in the NFL. The Eagles could have full well gotten what they wanted out of Sopoaga, to be a stop gap until they felt comfortable with one of the young guys. If the Eagles were tight against the cap, then yeah, I can see the point. But this guy makes as much as Jason Avant, and we’re going to be about 50 mil under the cap next season.

          Essentially, what I’m saying is that there are two sides to the coin. There’s your side, that this was a signing that shouldn’t have been made, and there’s another that say kudos for hacking off a foot before the whole leg was lost.

          • Vick Must Go

            The fact we got anything was good. The fact that he was here for the first 8 games was good. Adam is making all good points.

    • Corey Dawson

      He was signed as a stop gap NT until they could find someone they liked better, that’s why you sign older players that are just average. They happened to find that person faster than they expected with one of their rookies performing well. If Logan ended up being a flop, Sopoaga would be there to be an average NT until they could upgrade.
      Also, the NT’s main job isn’t to make tackles. It’s to fill a gap so the back can’t run there and force 2 offensive lineman to block you, at least initially, to free up the linebackers to make plays. That’s why you have Kendricks and/or Ryans with 10-12 tackles a game.

  • Basscase

    His only contribution was saying the Eagles were going to “shock the world” or something close to that.
    His words floored me. Unfortunately his play couldn’t do the same to opposing OLinemen.

    • cliff henny

      every once in awile they’d trip over him as he was getting knocked back into Ryans.

  • GumboGumbo

    I’d rather trade the Sop than drop the Sop

    • UKEagle99

      Lol

  • Token

    Sopo was worth roughly 10-15 spots in the draft.

    Eagles would have had a very high 6th round pick. Now they get back a likely quite low Pats 5th rd pick.

    In the end, they just wanted Sopo off the roster that badly.

    • cliff henny

      plus the extra dead money. dont get it, just de-activate the guy for 8 weeks.

      • Andy124

        I’m happy with the moving up in the draft. We didn’t get much, but we didn’t really give up anything.

      • Vick Must Go

        What extra dead money? New England pays his garaunteed contract for the rest of the year.

        • cliff henny

          yes, lurie saves money, but the dead money hit, eagles take that. he was 3.5m dead money if cut at beginning of the yr,made it half way thru, so assuming dead money hit is 1.75m. ’14 DM was 1m. so they pay 750k to move up 20 spots. little expensive..probably nothing, i just like following the money

          • Vick Must Go

            I don’t know… but doesn’t the new team pay the money if it is salary? I know bonuses are paid by the original team, but will a 1M salary garaunteed be paid by New England if he is still on their team? And I would think they would pay the rest of his salary this year, that 1.75M.

            My understanding of contracts (minimal) would be they would only lose that 1M next year if the Patriots cut him, therefore ending his current contract.

          • cliff henny

            yes, pats pay 1.75m, that’s cash savings, luries money. as fans, sal cap/dead money is what matters. eagles will take the 2nd 1/2 as dead money-he’ll count 3.5m dead this yr, but off the books. also, have to pay someone else to be 53rd guy, figure 350k there. now, next yr, obviously he’d be cut, so the 1m dead wont be exist, taken this yr…so, guess in end, saves eagles some money. ah, splitting hairs, eagles gain some cap relief, get playing time for logan or thornton.

  • Will

    Disappointed had a chance to shop a lot of non 3-4 players on the roster.

  • southy

    one more band-aid pulled off… several to go.

  • pjcostello

    Michael Huff and Marcus Spears are now out there and available… Howie? Are you there? Hello?