Kelly Provides Update On Vick

Mike Vick handoff to LeSean McCoyChip Kelly provided an update on Michael Vick prior to Wednesday’s practice. The quarterback is taking team reps for the first time since injuring his hamstring but hasn’t fully tested the leg yet.

“He got some reps, said he felt decent. The biggest thing is how does he bounce back, where is he from one day to the next day. I can be honest with you: I don’t think he ran 100 percent. He wasn’t running full sprints out there yesterday in practice but it looks like he’s progressing.”

Will he be ready for Sunday?


"I just know Mike will be ready for practice today."

Vick got the majority of the snaps with the first team at Tuesday's practice. Matt Barkley got some too according to Kelly.

Nick Foles met with the trainers this morning. He is feeling better, Kelly said, but hasn't yet taken the imPACT test and remains sidelined.

Bradley Fletcher (knee) was a spectator at Wednesday's practice. Same for Jake Knott (hamstring). Kelly seems encouraged about where Patrick Chung (shoulder) is physically.

 

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    Not making me feel warm and fuzzy inside…

    • evanphilly

      Curious to know if Foles was healthy, if he would be the starter on Sunday to let Vick heal to 100%. Also curious to see how Foles would bounce back from that disaster of a game. Would go a long way in helping to determine trade value.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        I think Foles should have the nod if he was healthy with Vick active in case he started to stink up the joint again. But if you’re looking to get your confidence back, the Gmen are the team to do it against.

        • OldDocRoss

          Agreed. If Vick isn’t 100% and Foles is then you have to go with Foles. His trade value would’ve plummeted after Sunday so little to lose (and potentially quite a lot to gain) there.

          In really simple terms, if Foles has secretly been the “Worst QB Eva!!1!” all this time then the last thing you want is to rush Vick back and cause him serious injury. If he’s actually competent or better then he should be capable of beating the Giants and we can get Vick back in a week or two when he’s fully fit.

          • Dutch

            This is a sound strategy. Allow Vick’s injury time to heel, the Eagles can still find a competitive streak and win up to 5 or 6 more games and be contenders for the division.

            If Vick isn’t 100% this week playing him could be a disastrous decision that totally eliminates any possibilities. Roll Foles out there and see if his heart is in the game or if last week was some aberration.

            However, I would not get my hopes up because when playing at Arizona Foles played the same way he played sunday in Arizona’s bowl games. Some people just can’t handle the pressure of the bright lights.

      • GEAGLE

        If FOles was healthy, he has to play…It’s just too valuable of an opportunity to pass up. Finding out how he responds to choking the week prior, and how he can instill confidence in his team mates and get the to rally would be HUGE for finding out who the kid is. He has played too well prior to Sunday to not let that kid have a chance to redeem himself. It’s gotta be horrible being FOles this week, and whether Vick is playing or not, no once can convince me that sittin his hamstring for an extra week, wouldn’t be in Vicks best interest too…
        ….
        I wouldn’t want FOles in the game if he is groggy with the deck stacked against him, but if he is good to go, he has to start this week….but Ultimately I think we will see a less then healthy Vick start on Sunday…that’s my expectation…but my Desire is to see a healthy FOles..

        • Will

          Foles did extremely well against the Gnats off the bench so if Foles is ready he should start. If Foles meets all the concussion procedures to return. May not be cleared to play by Sunday.

          • Andy124

            Hadn’t even taken the concussion tests as of this morning. That’s just the first step. He’s not getting any practice reps. There’s no way Foles gets to play.

  • Will

    Vick not 100%, Foles Concused, Barkley throws more INT’s, GJ Kinne who knows about him other than he was 4th in the QB competition this summer, assuming GJ is a slight drop off from Barkley, ugh….defiantly not feeling warm and fuzzy….

    • GEAGLE

      Time to dust off SOAPs arm!!!!

      haven’t you heard? We are going with the two QB system this week. FOles and Barkley will be in the game at the same time. Think a sniper and a spotter….FOles does the “looking” and points out which guys are not wearing Eagles jerseys for Barkley and Matt does the throwing….

      Doesn’t even matter Sunday, My beloved defense will take another step forward this week and shady was embarrassed last week so he should be dirty dirty come Sunday ,,,

      • Will

        No Casey at bat…eh…Wednesday and Foles yet to do impact test may not be available come Sunday… Foles has to do the whole procedure for concussion to return…..

        • GEAGLE

          Yeah, doesn’t look like Saint Nick will be ready to go, and if that’s the case I might be inclined to want us to go with Barkley..

  • cliff henny

    nice pic…has to be the only one proving Casey plays offense.

    • Will

      Yeah really all the Hype with his signing another weapon X, well some bombs are duds…snap count for 7 games is a joke for the $ spent…

      • Dutch

        Not if you asked some of the guys on this forum when Kelly signed Casey from Houston. What were they calling him, some kind of pocket knife. Ohhhhh, Swiss Army pocket knife……. yea right…….

        This guy didn’t come with stats that says he would be much more than he’s been this season, same with Barwin. The Eagles signed a 34 Catch Tight End for guaranteed money, and released Clay Harbor a 30 catch tight end, who was just as capable of lining up in the backfield. Pathetic.

        These guys in here were Jocking Casey as if he were the second coming of Keith Jackson. All this time he turned out to be a real lame.

        • Richard Colton

          we were yeasting him up alright…total yeast fest in here

          • Dutch

            Yes, some of you were yeasting Casey and Barwin as if they were dominating at their positions even when their Stats did nothing to help those exaggerations.

    • UKEagle99

      He was trying to get off the field, we were flagged to 12 men on that play.

  • GEAGLE

    Sheil,,,the people have a pressing need for your all 22 help!!!

    DAMARIS!?!? What is up with the non exsistent return game? Is he getting blocking that a good return man would have success with, or are we just not blocking for him and giving I him nothing to work with? The Return game has been too bad for too long,,,,really hoping you can address this in an all 22 and even ask Chip about the blocking. We can’t just keep getting NOTHING out of our return units…can you shed some light on this for the people?
    ..
    Please Help!!

    • Will

      Poor Blocking….2 ST starters injured….Jake knot is one of them…all in all the ST have been fairly good not giving up huge returns…

    • cliff henny

      for now, i’m happy with fair catches. offense can go 70 or 80 just as easily, just have the ST not screw up with fumble or penalty.
      .
      thought dj2 was going to be a fun weapon for kelly on offense, getting short ins/outs on the move over the middle. another MIA guy

    • JofreyRice

      I have a theory: he’s sucky.

  • knighn

    Vick – coming back from a bad hamstring.
    Foles – coming back from a very bad game and a concussion.
    Barkley – coming back from a terrible game and a noodle arm.

    I have a bad feeling about this.

    • Will

      LMAO no shat…LMAO you forgot GJ Kinne…LMAO

      • knighn

        He’s still practice squad.
        Time for James Casey to get some snaps?
        Put Lane Johnson back there and let him relive his QB days?
        Put Isaac Sopoaga back there for bombs and just let him go crazy with those 70-80 yarders?
        I think I would pay extra money to see LJohnson and Soap get some snaps at QB. They couldn’t be worse than Barkley, could they?

    • BleedGreenJames

      1. Start Barkley
      2. Lose Games
      3. Draft Mariota
      4. TURN UP

      • Will

        Still want to see more of Foles before I give up on the kid..

        • BleedGreenJames

          And when is that gonna happen? Can’t even beat out a 33 year old Vick. The kid is nothing, had receivers running wide open everywhere and he laid a bigger egg than Josh Freeman, who didn’t even know his offense.

          • Will

            Granted he missed wide open receivers that Foles never threw to. Even Brady can have an off game. Foles has played in what 9 games…Foles has flashed but needs work on Deep Pass to the side lines…

          • BleedGreenJames

            Yeah, but I mean looking big picture, even though he can make the offense run at times, it’s still not being played to it’s maximum potential. This scheme is at its best with a threat to run at QB. Foles doesn’t make you defend the entire field, it’d be like playing with one hand behind your back.

            And yes, QBs have “off” games, but what Foles did Sunday was absolutely unacceptable. That was a putrid performance with a chance to 1. Potentially take the starting job from Vick. 2. Get ahead of Dallas in the division race. 3. End this embarrassing home losing streak.

          • Will

            Agree on all counts….yet what Foles showed in 2 Tampa wins and half of the Gnats game was intriguing so haven’t given up on him…

          • Dutch

            Whether Foles looks good depend entirely on the play and talent on a defense. Dallas isn’t that strong of a defense, at least sunday they were without a major portion of their defense and found a way with limited experience and good athlete to befuddle Foles, which really was not a major task.

            Just enough to send Foles into fits and snatch any confidence he built up playing against weak teams playing bad schemes.

          • Dutch

            Well that’s just an indication he is incapable of making common NFL QB throws to all parts of the field. That is a hinderance to a offense.

          • Dutch

            it’s probably a benefit if Foles Starts if he’s capable this week. If we have to put a tackling dummy behind center it’s best that Foles fills that bill than Vick who will be virtually immobile. Giants have one of the worse defense in the league, if Foles can’t look good against the worst defense in the league where can he look good?

          • BlindChow

            Vick was 6 of 14 for 105 yards before he went out in the Giants game (56 yards of that was that one play where the ball dropped right between the corner’s hands). Luckily, he was able to keep drives alive with his legs. If he’s immobile in the rematch, it’s probably going to be pretty rough.

          • Dutch

            I think it will also, can’t see the logic in sending Vick out to face the Giants on one leg.

          • Andy124

            Aww look, he’s already making excuses for Vickypoo and the game is still days away. How cute.

          • Dutch

            It doesnt’ make sense to put a man on one leg under center. That seems pretty rational.

          • Andy124

            One leg? So you know how healthy Mike is, but Mike doesn’t?

            So what if Foles plays next week and does poorly? Is that evidence that he sucks, or is it because he’s still concussed?

          • JofreyRice

            Please, the man is a doctor.

          • Andy124

            Oh yes, maybe he can clear Foles to play this week.

          • Dutch

            That’s going to be more determined by Foles heart and courage. When I played Football a concussion wasn’t a condition that would keep someone out for any length of time. It’s basically a head ache he was able to walk off the field, he can’t be that fragile if he is he’s in the wrong line of work. Already of the 7 games he’s started, he’s failed to complete 30% of those games due to injury.

            When you view it like that, what is there to expect moving forward with Foles?

          • JofreyRice

            Well, there you have it. A concussion is a headache. CASE CLOSED.

            Wait, wasn’t one of your theories last year that Vick was secretly concussed throughout the entire season, which led to his poor play?

          • theycallmerob

            I’m pretty sure his posts are evidence enough of the long-term damage caused by concussions.

          • Dutch

            Most anyone who’s run full speed, head first into another individual has suffered a concussion.

          • theycallmerob

            Not to the extent of football players. My two dominant sports were football and boxing; I now coach both. The main reason I stopped actually fighting (and switched to training) was due to the lingering effects, even in my mid-20′s.
            To make light of a concussion, however, is not appropriate. Even by your notoriously low standards, Delta

          • Dutch

            We’re on a football blog, would you have assumed we were discussing something else relating to concussions?

            It doesn’t take a Hopkins study to know Concussions are a by product of Football and Boxing.

          • Dutch

            Concussions are akin to boxers being knocked out…. It ‘s a horrible head ache to begin with, at times you may loose consciousness. Sure I believe Vick as many hits has he’s taken was concussed and played through them, some time you answer questions on instincts when concussed. Today in the NFL the protocol is completely different.

          • Dutch

            simmer down, the exact comment was: “It’s basically a headache he was able to walk off the field”

          • Andy124

            Well that’s good to know. I’ll go tell the Seau and Waters families that it was just headaches.

          • Dutch

            Whether you agree or not, that’s what they were and nearly ever player played through them beginning in high school. Most of the time if you were unconscious you were awaken sat out a few plays and put right back out on the field.

          • Dutch

            Well he sucks, but how bad can he look against the Giants? The Giants have the worse defense in the league. He should be ok to play the Giants.

            Sure I would bet a pound of prevention in sitting Vick out and going with Foles or either Barkley at this point in the season.

          • Andy124

            Didn’t really answer the question there did ya. I mean, Vick looked pretty bad against them in the first half this year. Looked real bad against them at the end of last year didn’t he. But oh wait, you informed us that’s because he was still concussed, after 2 months and a battery of tests telling us otherwise. That’s fair.

          • Dutch

            I answered your question, I don’t think Foles will look bad because of the concussion, but rather because he sucks. He always looks bad. That was the initial reaction in my answer above, He Sucks.

        • GEAGLE

          Good for you will for being rational and having sense…a lost art amongst our fanbase

          • BleedGreenJames

            So not having faith in a guy that obviously isn’t an optimal fit for this offense and shrinks in huge games = not having any sense.

            Gotcha.

    • Dutch

      Most Eagles fans would rather see Foles start this week, simply because nobody can believe what they saw last week and want to be sure someone could be so paranoid in the face of a NFL rush. And Dallas didn’t hardly blitz, they just sat back in their defense and let him kill himself.

      Brilliant strategy.

      That was something that requires a second act to confirm.

      • knighn

        I’d rather see a half of Foles and half of Barkley. Then on Monday we can watch you crucify one crappy QB and then praise the other crappy QB. You may not be consistent or thorough with your analysis, but when it comes to entertainment value: you wear the crown… right on top of your hat. It makes the hat kind of heavy, right?

        • Dutch

          You should not be concerned about my review, I think Foles should start but if he’s to fragile to play then I am all for Barkley getting the start. He can’t be any worse than Eagles fans, some of you are rooting for in Foles.

          You don’t have any idea of what I wear on my head, that’s an exaggeration motivated by your hurt feelings that Foles has proven to be a complete and utter bust……. get over it. There’s a new opponent this week.

          Snap out of it and come around.

          Stop trying to make this exchange personal, quit your whining and wipe your nose…….Man up a little bit……

          • knighn

            “Heavy is the hat that wears the crown”
            Oh, I’m not concerned about your reviews. I’m waiting to be entertained by it. That’s a completely different outlook.
            Oh, boo hoo: Foles, a 3rd round pick, won’t be the Eagles future starter. He’ll only ever be a backup. What a terrible fate for a QB who is a 3RD round pick! I am so sad and hurt. Quite honestly: I’m so used to Andy Reid’s 3rd round picks being absolutely useless that most of what we’ve gotten out of Foles has been an upgrade.
            Speaking of QBs outside of rounds 1-2, tell us again what you thought Matt Barkley was going to be?

          • Will

            Tom Brady went 176 overall kinda pokes holes in your whole theory…

          • knighn

            Wow. You are an absolute GENIUS! I have NEVER seen this before. I have also NEVER heard about Kurt Warner or Tony Romo!! Thank you for sharing all of this wonderful detail with me. I was such a fool!

          • Will

            I hated the Barkley pic myself…

          • knighn

            Sorry for the snark. QBs like Tom Brady, Tony Romo or Kurt Warner, or even Russell Wilson are the exception, not the rule. Look at the guys that win the Super Bowl. Outside of Brady and Warner, they’re generally round 1 guys. In fact, most of the guys who become franchise QBs (starting for 5 years or more for one team) are round 1 guys. Anything after round 1 and you’re typically looking at a QB with some holes. Some deficiencies are larger than others. Like Matt Barkley’s arm strength is much more of an issue than Russell Wilson’s height.

          • Will

            Agree Foles needs work on one pass set the Deep outside pass….normally he finds the open receiver fast…except Dallas game

          • Dutch

            You did speak as if it’s out of the question for a 3rd selection to become a consistent performer starting in the league and that’s just not the case.

            But with Foles, he was destined to become nothing more than maybe a good back up, he was drafted to high. it’s been 2 years and he still can’t get the foot work correct in the pocket.

          • knighn

            You can’t really be that ignorant. Surely someone who has watched football as long as you have knows that franchise QBs (start for their teams for 5 years or more) outside of round 1 are the exception and not the rule?

            Speaking of destinies: what did you think Matt Barkley was destined to be? What do you think now?

          • Dutch

            Matt Barkley will have more success and impact than Nick Foles, that’s all he has to have at this point. He is not the perfect compliment for Chip Kelly’s offense. Neither is Foles, that’s why Foles is out of Phila at the end of the year. He can’t run this offense.

            No, franchise QBs outside the 1rd are not the exception, unless you are working with a reduced sample size, Brady, and Curt Warner weren’t 1 rd selections Nor was Joe Montana ,Farve or Brees.

          • knighn

            Let’s ignore the fact that I said rounds 1-2 earlier in this thread, shall we? Now let’s look at the last 21 Super Bowls (going back to the ’92 season). Decent enough sample size, I’d say. There were 14 QBs to win those last 21. Out of those 14 guys, only 5 where taken outside of the FIRST round. Does that sound like the exception or the rule to you?

            Now, looking closer, Brees was picked 32nd overall and Favre was picked 33rd overall, which makes those guys damn close to 1st round picks and fits what I said earlier in this thread (outside of rounds 1-2). So, that would really bring the criteria to only 3 out of 14 guys. Once again: exception or rule?

            nicksaenz1 said it perfectly: just because a 3rd round pick can become a consistent starter doesn’t mean that is what the team is expecting when they draft him there.

          • Dutch

            I was responding to this post ” QBs (start for their teams for 5 years or more) outside of round 1 are the exception and not the rule?”

            So I guess I did ignore any earlier post you allured too. Are you now changing your opinion to fit this late narrative?

            Close only counts in Horseshoes and when throwing hand grenades. Neither Brees or Favre were drafted in round 1.

            That’s still a small sample size, the super bowl is 50 years old

          • knighn

            1) EVEN taking my only round 1 (which is clearly a typo – read the rest of the thread), I still own you. 5 out of 14 is STILL the exception and NOT the rule. There is no way you can spin that otherwise.
            2) 21 years is a small sample size? Fail. 21 years represents the 21 most recent years of the NFL. The modern NFL. I suspect you’d still be wrong if I went larger (since Montana is the only name you mentioned outside of that 21-year period)
            Do you never tire of being wrong? I mean, my typo was an accident, and even with it, I’m still right. You seem to like being wrong on purpose.

          • Dutch

            the modern era of the NFL is the Super Bowl Era which begun in 1961.

          • knighn

            Wrong again. The modern era of NFL football is the Salary Cap era, which only began in 1994. I was being nice and expanded the sample size by a couple of years. Do you really want me expand things to include all 47 Super Bowls? Your track record on these conversations is NOT good. But go ahead: list ALL of the QBs who have ever won a Super Bowl and the round where they were drafted. Maybe you’ll finally get one right. Hell: even a broken clock is right twice a day. Twice a day would be a significant improvement for you.

          • Dutch

            I disagree, in 59 the AFL was a competing League, in 60 Pete Rozelle was elected NFL Commissioner In 61 A bill legalizing single-network television contracts by professional sports leagues was introduced in Congress by Representative Emanuel Celler. It passed the House and Senate and was signed into law by President John F. Kennedy, September 30. In 62 The Dallas Texans defeated the Oilers 20-17 for the AFL championship at Houston & The NFL entered into a single-network agreement with CBS. In 63 The Dallas Texans transferred to Kansas City, becoming the Chiefs, NFL Properties, Inc., was founded to serve as the licensing arm of the NFL. NBC was awarded exclusive network broadcasting rights for the 1963 AFL Championship Game

            In 64 The AFL signed a five-year, $36-million television contract with NBC to begin with the 1965 season, Commissioner Rozelle negotiated an agreement on behalf of the NFL clubs to purchase Ed Sabol’s Blair Motion Pictures, which was renamed NFL Films, CBS submitted the winning bid of $14.1 million per year for the NFL regular-season television rights for 1964

            In 65 Atlanta was awarded an NFL franchise for 1966, with Rankin Smith, Sr., as owner, June 30. Miami was awarded an AFL franchise for 1966,

            in 66 A series of secret meetings regarding a possible AFL-NFL merger were held in the spring between Hunt of Kansas City and Tex Schramm of Dallas. Rozelle announced the merger, June 8. Under the agreement, the two leagues would combine to form an expanded league with 24 teams, to be increased to 26 in 1968 and to 28 by 1970 or soon thereafter

            Short version, Money and Television contracts defined the modern Era. There would not be the sort of free agency you know today without Television Money.

          • knighn

            Of course, nowhere in your earlier arguments did you say the “television money era”, but rather “the Super Bowl era which began 50 years ago” or “the Super Bowl era which began in 1961″. Good ‘ol Dutch. When the facts show you as wrong, change up the argument. I am impressed by your actual effort this time. You’re Still Wrong, but at least you’re not being lazy about it for a change.

          • knighn

            OK… there is an argument that can be made that both of us are wrong. You believed that the Modern Era begins with the Super Bowl Era – which began with the 1966 season, not in 1961 and not 50 years ago as you stated earlier in this thread. Man, you are so incredibly lazy in your arguments: you can’t take two seconds to figure out how many Super Bowls there have been. But I digress…

            I believed that the Modern Era began with the Salary Cap (1994).

            I have since found plenty of evidence that suggests that the Modern Era actually began in 1970, with the official merger of the NFL and AFL.

            However: the Pro Football Hall of Fame considers the Modern Era as everything from 1988 onward. Kind of arbitrary, I know, but who are we to argue with the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

            So there you go: both of us were wrong. You were more wrong, of course, since you didn’t even know when the Super Bowl Era actually began (1961?! 50 years?!) but I am man enough to admit some fault. How about you?

          • Andy124

            You can’t really be that ignorant.

            Challenge Accepted. ~Dutch

          • nicksaenz1

            A 3rd round pick can become a consistent performing starter. A third round pick that doesn’t, however, is not a bust, as you labeled him, which is what knighn was referring to.

          • Dutch

            That is relative to the individual. I don’t count sitting on the bench as being productive. I’ve never been just happy to make the team and don’t understand that as any type of accomplishment. You’re either playing and making a difference or a cheerleader.

          • nicksaenz1

            It’s not relative to the individual at all. 3rd round picks don’t have the investment or hype to the point that underperformance leads to a bust label.

          • Dutch

            You’re entitled to your opinion. Some kids are just happy to be selected. I can’t find any resolve in being happy to be 2nd or 3rd string. And frankly I don’t want anyone on my team going to battle with me that can find satisfaction in being buried on the bench.

            Guys on the bench aren’t quite good enough.

          • knighn

            Said perfectly. Thank you. I also added my own reply too.

          • Dutch

            Speaking of Andy Reid, he’s a shoo in for another NFL Coach of the Year Award, could not happen to a finer guy.

            He’s the last undefeated team standing…….. Outstanding coaching job by Andy, he’s doing Phila Proud….

          • knighn

            Yep. How many of those Coach of the Year Awards does he have? I’m sure they’ll be a nice consolation for him at the end of his career when he still doesn’t have a Super Bowl ring. He’s Andy and he’ll keep being Andy.

          • JofreyRice

            Foles is on Roseman. ’12 draft and forward…

    • cliff henny

      if vick is 85-90%, that should be good enough. it’s a hammy, not a broken bone or partially seperated shoulder where a hit can end season. he would have some control over injury, and kelly can certainly help with play calling. i’ve had it, just have to play under control. guy is 33 yrs old 12 yr vet, should be able to trust him to take care of his body while out on field.

      • Will

        A Hammy is a tear which if he’s not a 100% and gets forced to run Vick risk re-injury it and making it worse which will mean more time missed….I don’t know but this can’t be rushed…I could live with one Barkley, GJ Kinne, Casey game at QB and play it safe…

        • cliff henny

          not rushing him. if vick is 90% that should be enough for him to sit in pocket and distribute. if he sees a lane and takes off, that’s on him. he controls that. have to know what you can and cant do.

          • Will

            Vick play a game and not run are you kidding me.Vick only plays one way that’s to win. He plays then Vick will run and if he re-injures the hammy then we are talking 4-6 weeks to heal up. One game is not worth the risk,

          • Dutch

            If Vick has to restrict himself to sitting in the pocket, Barkley or Foles should start. His instincts can’t be shut off like that in the heat of the attack.

        • Dutch

          In April anyone that has never played sports should attend the Penn Relays at Franklin Field, buy a bag of Peanuts and enjoy some of the finest athletes in the world compete, I can guarantee you will see at least one hamstring injury and the athletes reaction. Come back and tell us if you thought it hurt.

      • Dutch

        Have you ever competed in any competition outside of a game of checkers with a Hamstring injury? It doesn’t sound like you have……..

        • cliff henny

          played every sport under the sun. can play with it, just have to extra careful. it is an injury you can control. not like a broken hand. think vick played 3 or 4 games with a tender hammy. it’s not ideal, but manning played with a freaking broken neck!

          • Dutch

            It’s not an injury you the athlete can control unless you sit out of competition. You had a cramp, water and salt pills would be sufficient to treat a cramp.

          • JofreyRice

            Dr. Dutch!

          • Dutch

            It’s not that complicated, if you were other than a couch athlete it’s almost impossible not to know.

          • nicksaenz1

            Is there a competition for couch sports? If so, what are the events? Enough for a triathalon? Pentathalon?

          • Dutch

            Can’t imagine it’s more difficult than being an Arm Chair Quarterback.

          • nicksaenz1

            So you’re probably great at couch sports.

          • Richard Colton

            Please don’t end this thread Nick. Its the best of the year so far.

          • Dutch

            Then answer Nick, you participate in Couch Sports, don’t you have some kind of Fantasy Football team?

          • Richard Colton

            couch sports, bedroom sports, futon games – basically anything laying down is my milieu. But try to focus here, will you Dutch? When they kicked you out of Pee Wee football for being too physically dominant, did you go right into medicine or was there a period where you drifted?

          • JofreyRice

            great questions, Nick.

          • Richard Colton

            I try Rob, I try

          • nicksaenz1

            Nicely done, sir.

          • Dutch

            Some kids are built big, to big when it comes to weight Football in the various leagues throughout the United States. I have a 14 year old nephew in Phila now who had the same issues…… He wanted to play but was massive by the standard of other kids his age. We sent him to camps where he practiced with High School kids, now he’s in the 10 grade and Starts Varsity.

            He was to much to handle for the pee wee leagues, and he’s equally to much to handle as a 10 grader on Varsity. He’s following in my footsteps and destined to become a star contributor at the next level.

          • JofreyRice

            you’re definitely a star contributor here, no argument from me.

          • Dutch

            That’s because I don’t seek or need your approval. To that end there would never be an argument…….

          • nicksaenz1

            I do have a fantasy team, 4 in fact, but that’s at a computer chair, which has an entirely different set of physical demands than couch sports. It doesn’t have a weight minimum like your couch sports, however, lower weight isn’t frowned upon either. It just makes for diverse competition.

          • Dutch

            Hun??????????? What are you talking about?

          • nicksaenz1

            Exactly.

          • nicksaenz1

            I have to, unfortunately. However, it’s made for an entertaining end of my work day, which I needed.

          • theycallmerob

            well done, soldier. good work today. bronze-star worthy discussion.

          • nicksaenz1

            Bronze? I must be slipping in my old age.

          • Dutch

            maybe. maybe not. I’ve never given them a try in my youth.

          • nicksaenz1

            Weird, most 130lb 9 year olds are dominant couch athletes. You can be honest.

          • Dutch

            You have to take those electronic games away from the kids….. put them on the soccer field. However, I didn’t say I weighed 130 lbs, I said I played with that group of kids.

          • nicksaenz1

            So your wealth of knowledge about football came on the soccer pitch? Interesting strategy to understanding the game.

          • JofreyRice

            Dutch on the pitch, as a dominant young midfielder:

          • nicksaenz1

            I imagine he was the kid next to the soccer mom that provided the Ecto Coolers and Star Crunches.

          • JofreyRice

            I’m sorry Mrs. Dutch, your son is eating all the snacks we’d give out at halftime before we’ve even kicked it off. Now that he’s 13, he can’t “play with the kids anymore”.

          • Dutch

            What kind of sports team gives out snacks at halftime? What kind of sports do you play where that is allowed? Juice boxes, sandwiches and a pack of skittles at the half? Are you serious?

          • JofreyRice

            what’s the matter, used to heavier fare? Chili Bread Bowls and Beef Stroganoffs would give a lot these kids stomachaches, Dutch. They don’t have your constitution.

          • Andy124

            Oddly enough, time for me to go watch my daughter play soccer, where will she will indeed get a snack at half-time (usually a little fresh fruit).

          • Dutch

            When I was a kid, I can remember the trainers and coaches not wanting the athletes to drink water until after practice. this new Snack Pack break is new news to me.

          • Dutch

            No, but used to a much heavier lift when it came to Football and training.

          • Dutch

            Well when you consider at 14 I had already been working at summer camp with Varsity players for 3 years, it was beyond my ability at that time to play with kids my age or younger. At 14 and entering High School I practiced with the Varsity and was promoted from Cadet Football. At that time in Pennsylvania 14 year olds in 9th grade were not allowed to play Varsity.

          • Dutch

            The phase Soccer Mons had not become familiar at those times. I’ve never sat on the bench and have never been cut from a team. I can’t see the fun of participating in sports sitting on the bench.

          • Andy124

            And telling her how she knew nothing about parenting and that her kid will amount to nothing. He heard it on the subway.

          • Dutch

            If this is a picture from China this kid is destined to become a star and is probably being groomed as a Sumo Wrestler now. Sumo wrestlers in Asia are treated like Rock Stars in America.

          • Dutch

            No, but I played Soccer when I was 7 and 8 years old, I was to much bigger than the other kids my age and thus to young to play with the older kids, so I played soccer and was on the swim team until I was old enough to be able to handle myself on the football field with older kids.

            That’s not a unique situation if you played sports or have kids who play sports, especially Football.

          • JofreyRice

            I find myself evaluating what is possible after reading most of your posts.

        • Token

          Please, tell us your war stories from Pee Wee.

          • Dutch

            I was to big to play pee wee, by the time I was 9 I played with the 125 or 135 lbs………. those kids were 3 to 4 years older. by the time I was 13, I wasn’t playing with the kids any more.

          • JofreyRice

            why, did they hospitalize you for morbid obesity?

          • Dutch

            I’ve always been a 3 sport athlete

          • JofreyRice

            competitive eating is still a sport?

          • Dutch

            Phila is home to the Chicken Wing champion, right? There’s something to celebrate there.

  • EaglePete

    No way they start Foles even if hes able to play. I just think they want Vick to start even if hes not 100%. Im sure Mike can share some stories with Foles about fan reactions after bad games. If I was an athlete Id stay as far away from Twitter and the internet as possible.

  • RaiderDebo

    Foles really got screwed. Even though he got his ass kicked in the “QB competition”, he looked pretty good doing it. Then he comes in to the Giants with a nine-point lead and manages to pull it out thanks to an Eli Manning meltdown in the fourth qtr. the next week against the winless Bucs, he produces a win and a nice stat line throwing screens all day. If it could have just ended there, he was set up for a fat Matt Flynn/Kevin Kolb deal down the road. Instead, he was exposed against the Cowboys as the flawed prospect he proved to be in college. Poor guy.

    • Dutch

      Buzzard’s luck…………. Screwed up any trade value the Eagles could have received. There are going to be no less than 9 teams looking for QB this draft and the selections are limited to I think 5 or 6, and that depends on who decides to return.

      The Eagles could have easily pushed Foles off on somebody more desperate than we are for a QB. That’s not a possibility unless he comes back and have a hell of a game, he’s going to need no less than 3 to change from being a laughing stock to a serious contender for a position. I just don’t see that in his kid.

      • RaiderDebo

        The guy has been exposed. Even if he gets a chance to start, the book is out on him after the Dallas game. I said after the Tampa game that I was more impressed by Glennon than Foles. He’s made plays down the field that I can’t even imagine Foles making. Nice guy and I think as a backup he’s good for short stints. But nobody is gonna want that dude as a starter.

        • Dutch

          Well I would not say nobody, there are enough low information Eagles fans who would have squabble arm as the QB despite the limitations he consistently shows under center.

          But I agree with you on Glennon. But then again it was against the Eagles back end defense but it was a start for the kid.

  • #7

    If Vick is 85-90% he should be able to play. Kolb..err Foles will be out this week. Vick will get the job doe

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    Sunday was such a winnable game…damn. I think Vick regresses and takes a step back this game though. no matter if they are playin the giants. some stat out there says his completing 46 % of his passes since that Washington game. I think the Experience is over. I Still want a win.