Observations: Cowboys 17, Eagles 3

Eagles QB Nick Foles in red practice jersey preseason throwing

Here’s what we saw during today’s Eagles-Cowboys game.

OFFENSE


* Nick Foles played one of his worst games as a pro, completing 11 of 29 passes (37.9 percent) for 80 yards (2.8 YPA). He got crushed by two Cowboys defenders and left the game early in the fourth quarter with a head injury.

* Foles missed open receivers all game long as the only points the Eagles scored came courtesy of great field position after a DeMeco Ryans interception. They were going up against an average Cowboys defense that was playing without DeMarcus Ware. The Eagles' best chance at scoring a touchdown came in the second half, but Foles missed a wide-open Jason Avant. In the first half, he had Brent Celek open on a corner route that could have been a big gainer, but overthrew him.

* The Eagles didn't get much from their running game either. LeSean McCoy carried 18 times for 55 yards (3.1 YPC).

* Riley Cooper was the team's leading receiver with six catches for 88 yards. DeSean Jackson had a frustrating day with three catches for 21 yards on eight targets. The Cowboys played a lot of man coverage with a single high safety, but the Eagles couldn't take advantage. Early on, they tried to create mismatches with their running backs against Dallas' defenders, but didn't have much luck. McCoy finished with six catches for 26 yards. Jeff Maehl had a pair of drops.

* The offensive line seemed to be up and down. There were times when they gave up pressure, specifically on the interior, but there were plenty of other instances where Foles had time to find receivers and failed to pull the trigger.

* Matt Barkley entered the game in the fourth quarter and went 11-for-20 for 129 yards and three interceptions. Next week's starter is up in the air as Michael Vick continues to recover from a hamstring injury.

DEFENSE

* The defense turned in perhaps its best performance of the season. Going up against a high-powered offense, the Eagles limited the Cowboys to three points in the first half and 17 overall. They pressured Tony Romo a fair amount and kept the Eagles in the game, even as the offense sputtered.

* Overall, Romo went 28-for-47 for 317 yards, a touchdown and two interceptions. Earl Wolff picked Romo off on a Hail Mary at the end of the first half. DeMeco Ryans had a third-quarter INT.

* The Eagles got good pressure on Romo. Ryans sacked him on a blitz up the middle in the first quarter. And Vinny Curry sacked Romo in the second. Curry seemed to get a bump in playing time with the Eagles often in their nickel package.

* The Eagles limited the Cowboys to 76 yards on the ground and 3.2 YPC.

* Dez Bryant had eight catches for 110 yards on 16 targets. He had a big 19-yard grab in the third to set up the Cowboys' first touchdown. Trent Cole was initially lined up against Bryant on the play, but then appeared to have passed him off as the defense was playing zone. Bryant only had two grabs for 34 yards on seven targets in the first half.

* Terrance Williams beat Bradley Fletcher for a 9-yard slant for a touchdown in the fourth.

* Wolff suffered a head injury on a collision with Bryant in the second half and left the game. He did not return.

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  • Brandon Boykin, OLB

    Everybody, it’s my fault the offense sputtered.

    … I started Nick Foles on my fantasy team.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Same :(

      • Mrkraxx

        Same. Benched 300/3 Ryan AND 300/3 dalton for him. Never again. I’m sorry Matt. I trust you now.

        • Brandon Boykin, OLB

          I benched Matty Ice too. 32 points. Chilling on my bench. No big.

        • anon

          yeah me too.

    • James Skip Carl

      Me too

    • Pennguino

      Guilty

      • #7

        Several of ya’ll did lol. Unfortunately, Romo had to be my starter due to Vick being hurt smh

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          I didn’t even make a grab for Foles. I’m not that crazy.

          • #7

            No way. Had Romo and Schaub stashed in case of the Vick injury. Insurance!!

          • Dutch

            It would have been better starting a unicorn name Bertha.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Bertha? You wrong..lol.

    • anon

      yeah me too…

    • SeaDucks

      Thank god I don’t play Fantasy or I’d be in this suicidal group too……

    • RIP illa

      Don’t play fantasy, so I’m curious as to why you would start Foles? I could kinda see someone doing that if it wasn’t the game this week. It’s an NFC East match up…and w/ it being that, we rarely air out teams or get into a shootout. They’re more known for being brutal and ugly football games.

      • Jason

        Because a lot of people that had Drew Brees had to start someone.

      • macadood

        i had him as one of my backup qb’s all season long and started him last week in a 2 qb league. he had a splendid fantasy day with 3 passing td’s and 1 more rushing. cowboy’s defense was supposed to be suspect this week without Ware…but both defenses somehow stepped it up big today. crazy how few creases there were for any of the running backs all day.

  • evanphilly

    This crowd has been dead since the game first started. How I miss the Vet….

  • G_WallyHunter

    Well, This is humbling..

    • Dutch

      I should have been Humiliating for anyone that though seriously and suggested that Foles could run this offense or, and this offense would be just as efficient with Foles under center as a more mobile QB who is a threat to rip off 20 yd runs.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Agree with u to an extent. I guess I mean humbling as a team, defense looked good at times, offense showed their true colours when up against good coverage. no one can argue the offense clicks better with Vick, I hope he’s back, or I hope CK can come up with a better gameplan for Foles next week if he’s even healthy

        • Dutch

          Defense was surprising. But on the other hand, Dallas sucked today also. I don’t agree the offense looked stagnant, Foles was the major drawback to the offense he definitely had time, space and opportunity.

          • #7

            We should have beat Dallas. There is no doubt about that. They were not good at all. Our defense played as lights out as they could so far and our offense blew it

  • N

    Please get rid of Billy Davis. Worst d-coordinator on 3rd down in the history of the nfl!!

    • atlvickfan

      Really? He’s the guy we’re scapegoating today? The D played fine against a pretty formidable opponent for most of this game.

      • nicksaenz1

        Andy would have, too.

    • evanphilly

      Davis and the D came to play today. Not their fault that the O was terrible.

    • Dasdip

      I was going to blame McNabb, Reid, Vick, or Castillo, but I have to say good call on Davis.

    • anon

      Stop trolling. Or at least watch the game first.

    • SeaDucks

      Um, yeah can’t support you on this one, this game. Rest of the season sure, but this falls squarely on the Offensive Offense. We got Foled!

    • #7

      Did you expect instant results? I happy that we’re seing SOMETHING. We have to start somewhere

  • Mr. Wu

    eagles anthem

  • Mrkraxx

    I just can’t believe how bad foles played. I haven’t seen an nfl qb with so little pressure on him stand there and miss throws all game long like that … Ever maybe?

    • Mrkraxx

      Hard to remember a combo of that good protection and time to throw with that little accuracy that I have ever seen. Epic strange and bad. Get well soon Vick. So much confidence I had built in foles totally soiled now knowing that that can happen. It was comically bad. Can’t trust that.

    • biteme

      Oh yea, what about what Matt Barkley did?

  • atlvickfan

    So, uh… that Foles carriage turned back into a pumpkin awful quick, huh?

    Meanwhile, the vaunted Bucs pass defense gave up 3 passing TDs to an offense missing Roddy White and Julio Jones today.

    Get well soon #7.

    • evanphilly

      If Vick is healthy next week, he starts no question. But he isn’t the future. He was 1-3 as a starter this year. Foles is a backup and who knows what Barkley is. As many of us were saying at the beginning of the year, the QB of the future isn’t even on the roster yet.

      Eagles win next week to get off the home losing streak!

      • anon

        We lost to two of the best teams in the league. Who isn’t losing if they are playing KC and Den back to back.

        • #7

          Well said

        • HowieDon’tKnow

          The teams we beat were a collective 1-15 coming into the weekend. I think we’re losing to any team that is better than wretched. I liked our #4 pick today. Another good drafting decision for our brilliant GM.

          • #7

            lol

          • Maggie

            So Howie watched every college game, watched every film all by himself. The Eagles have no scouts, no Tom Gamble, no personnel department, do not have position coaches, or coordinators, no head coach. Just Howie sitting all by himself, like you, making every drafting decision all by himself, just like your omniscient, omnipotent self, Hmm?

          • HowieDon’tKnow

            I guess you don’t believe in accountability. Hope you like the current regime and the results on the field, Miss Smug.

        • biteme

          plus Philip Rivers is on fire

        • K

          Plus Vick had a career day against SD. That loss wasn’t on him at all. Poor clock management and sorry defense lost that game.

      • rjbac1

        NO! He Vick is 2-3 as a starter this year…I guess you forget he almost single handedly gave his team a 16-7 lead with 5 minutes left in the 1st half against the Giants…Get your facts straight…

    • Loke1988

      I thought you were smarter than that.

    • Chali

      Don’t count on any of those fraud Eagle fans to admit their wrong… they’ll goto the next… “Let’s see what Barkley has” lmao… The Vick hatred > Winning.. they would rather see us tank the season and/or next season.

      • HowboutdemIggles

        Well if he wins nothing happens, I still say that Vick shouldn’t come, back, but if he starts winning then I’ll be happy with that. You’re projecting.

  • quickhitz

    that was probably the worst quarterbacked game I’ve ever seen. So now we can hold out hope for Mariota?

    • evanphilly

      Marriota, Manziel, Tahj Boyd, the cat from FSU….a few kids coming out next year could run this offense.

      • knighn

        I’m also starting to wonder if Chip Kelly’s offense is designed to get QBs hurt in the NFL…

        • evanphilly

          Because Vick has been a bastion of health since he came into the NFL? Foles got dinged up last year when he was playing. Anytime you have a running QB, you run that risk.

          • Dasdip

            Anytime you have any QB, you run that risk. Jay Cutler got knocked out of today’s game. Sam Bradford got knocked out of his game this week. Matt Schaub got knocked out of last week’s game. Those guys aren’t “running QBs.”

          • Dutch

            Well Foles isn’t a running QB, nothing close, and last year he was dinged, and today his 7th start of his career he again proved he was incapable of withstanding the physical part of the position.

            So, what’s up with Foles’ “bastion of health”?

            The game seemed to fast for the kid, he was standing in the pocket with all day to find an open receiver but he froze stiff. He was paralyzed with fear and confusion. It was crystal clear. He didn’t know which way was up or which way was down. That’s flat out bichcini.

            His eyes were bigger than watermelons. Then he caught a head ache…….The kid has started 7 games now and he’s failed to complete 30% of those due to injury.

          • #7

            damn lol

          • Maggie

            Surely you must have noticed that Foles can’t run! Even Aikman noticed that Foles can’t run!

          • knighn

            It wasn’t a Foles vs Vick statement. I don’t like QBs running any more than necessary in the NFL. Sure, it makes it a dynamic and interesting when every receiver in the game is truly covered (as in actually not “NFL open”) and the QB can take off for a first down. However, I also think that extra running tends to make QBs susceptible to an extra beating.

            The play I was talking about was when Foles actually ran out of the Read Option and was crunched by two defenders. Here’s a guy who had a bad groin a week and a half ago and he’s immobile… and he’s forced to run against a divisional rival. I get that it’s part of a Chip Kelly offense. I don’t like it.

        • Dasdip

          QBs getting hurt in the NFL is more frequent than most of us would like to admit. There are a couple of things that make Kelly QBs more vulnerable with regards to blocking assignments and formations, but the truth is that the NFL is just a violent game.

          • knighn

            When a QB runs, he is more likely to get hurt. I was specifically talking about the play where he ran out of the read option and was crunched by two ‘turds defenders. NOt the play where he supposedly suffered the concussion. Once again: Foles had a groin injury just last week. He is immobile. That guy doesn’t belong running a read option that actually has a QB keep option.

        • anon

          His sack was his fault. What happened to getting down / sliding, throwing the ball away? All the stuff Vick got chastized for…

          • knighn

            Agreed. Now you take a career’s worth of those hits and decisions and you start to understand why Vick probably won’t be the #1 for the Eagles next season.
            As for Foles: I was specifically talking about the play where he ran out of the read option and was crunched by two ‘turds defenders. Not the play where he supposedly suffered the concussion. Once again: Foles had a groin injury just last week. He is immobile. That guy doesn’t belong running a read option that actually has a QB keep option.

        • Guest

          Now THAT is the question and I would say yes for the most part. But injuries happen in the NFL

        • Dutch

          What got Foles block knocked off was not the offense, but Foles holding on to the ball and being in a state of confusion. He had ample time to thrown the ball, he reloaded twice and it was not going to be a third. He had 6 seconds to find a receiver or a spot out of bounds to throw that ball away.

          He had a mental block.

          • knighn

            Wasn’t talking about that play…
            I was specifically talking about the play where he ran out of the read option and was crunched by two ‘turds defenders. Not the play where he supposedly suffered the concussion. Once again: Foles had a groin injury just last week. He is immobile. That guy doesn’t belong running a read option that actually has a QB keep option.

        • BleedGreenJames

          Did you even see the play? Nick held the ball for like 10 seconds and took an awful sack on the sideline instead of throwing it away.

          • BlindChow

            And Vick’s injury came when he wasn’t even touched.

          • knighn

            Wasn’t talking about the supposed concussion play…
            I was specifically talking about the play where he ran out of the read option and was crunched by two ‘turds defenders. Not the play where he supposedly suffered the concussion. Once again: Foles had a groin injury just last week. He is immobile. That guy doesn’t belong running a read option that actually has a QB keep option.

  • Mrkraxx

    The crowd should be dead. Haven’t won a home game in 14 months almost. Think about that…

  • knighn

    Sooo… time to see James Casey at QB?

  • johnjohn

    Poisitive is receivers where wide open. I dont know what was wrong with foles. He just looked off on EVERY throw. Its only one bad game so I wont overreact like I didnt over his good game but damn frustrating trying to figure out what we have in him.

    • knighn

      We will see. Right now it really doesn’t look good for him.

      • Dutch

        He looked today exactly as he looked last year in those 6 starts. At this point it’s not we shall see, it’s a definite that we don’t have a starting quality back up QB.

        Receivers were open, he had time, the protection was solid. However, he didn’t throw any interceptions but he played like that was all that mattered. I think the kid had 80 yard of passing.

        That’s pathetic. 37% completion percentage.

        • #7

          Worse than the Vick KC game that everyone was harping about regarding Vick’s completion percentage

        • BlindChow

          He didn’t look anywhere near as awful last year as he looked today. He had a 60% average in 2012. There was nothing in his history to suggest he’d be THIS bad.

        • damrvrhunter

          Don’t remember a single game from last year where he looked OVERMATCHED!.

        • knighn

          Once again: either you don’t know how to use the Internet or you lie to make your point. In his limited appearances, Foles never looked as bad as he did yesterday.

          Speaking of your lies and omissions, what happened to your unwavering support for Matt Barkley? Oh, that’s right: You’re full of Cowturds and you change your story any time you’re busted.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Receivers were covered pretty well at least in the first half. Things got a little better int the second…but Foles was just missing them.

      He had plenty of time though.

      • johnjohn

        I didnt think so, I seen receivers open every play almost even if it was a checkdown. Vick or foles in im losing confidence in both. Im hoping the eagles have a reason why nick was so inaccurate because last year he didnt look anything like today

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          I saw Jax have a step on a guy, but Cooper was also open and he made that throw. Another time Mahel was open, but that was about it. They were covered pretty well early.

  • Phils Goodman

    At least it’s safe for us Foles-haters to come back out of our holes now.

    • SeaDucks

      Holes? Hell Nick provided the Backhoe and put himself 12 ft under so that even non-haters are haters now. Like me

      • Dutch

        He screwed up any potential trade value he gained in the last two weeks against scrubs. That is the worse that could have happen out of this game, and damn if it didn’t turn out that way.

        • SeaDucks

          You speak the truth brother. Even if he could have just played at a normal level. Don’t think any of us expected a repeat of last weeks performance, but at least hit the open receivers with catch-able throws

        • damrvrhunter

          Speaking as a non supporter of Vicks’ he at least looks like an albeit “dumb” NFL starter versus looking completely confused and overwhelmed with the moment which is how Foles performed today.

    • Maggie

      Don’t hate. Just doubt his talent.

  • Dasdip

    This is why “haters” kept saying things like “small sample size” and “regression to the mean” when people were suggesting Nick Foles was the second coming of Dan Marino or Kevin Kolb.

  • SeaDucks

    Wow. Who the hell was that? My left big toe could have played better QB. Dallas sold out to stop McCoy putting the game on Foles and it worked. I think it was a well coached game on our part that we should have won. Props to the D. HUGE game for them. But man, we need a QB worse then any other spot on the roster.

  • SeaDucks

    Vick is not the future, but he could have easily won this game with his feet alone.

    • Token

      I dont like the idea of a QB that runs alot. I dont like designed QB runs used a lot.

      But, today certainly could have been different because a guy with speed could have picked up some easy untouched first downs.

      • #7

        Well said

    • BlindChow

      Only until he pulled up with another hamstring injury.

  • Token

    Jackson got manned up today. There had to be another way for Chip to attack this man he keeps seeing. Hes gotta have a plan for it someday. If he cant figure it out hes dead in the water. Theres enough invested in this offense that he should be able to do it. But maybe it wouldnt have mattered with this QB play.

    Herremans, its time. Put him out to pasture.

    The positive is they know they need a QB now. The only thing worse than Foles today was Barkley. Very hard to throw 4 picks in like 3 drives. One called back.

    Vick will start the rest of the way. Foles had 10 games and three chances to show he can be a starter, he cant.

    The D played a great game. But im wondering how much of it just amounts to being “one of those games”. Dallas wasnt in sync most of the game either. We didnt really get a bunch of pressure the majority of the time. Just a bunch of off throws by Romo he usually makes. But at the end of the day the D held them on 3rd downs and gave us a great chance to win.

    Now maybe I just didnt see him, but it was like Curry stepped in, got pressure then wasnt used regularly from there on. Im curious to see his snap count, I could have just missed him.

    • Maggie

      Barkley REALLY has a ‘small sample size.” He will probably back-up next game. Foles won’t make the concussion protocol in time. Even if he had actually played football today.

    • Maggie

      I have to agree on Herremans. He gets beat or draws penalties every game now, it seems,

    • #7

      Well we shall see Token. I was opposed to Foles because I believed he wasn’t a starter. You say “Vick will start the rest of the way.”. Well why not support the QB of our football team? Is he the future? We don’t know. A lot of you thought Vick was done in Philly. Not me.

      I pulled for Foles during his “Era”…just like you did. Like you said, Vick is the starter

    • JofreyRice

      Sean Payton does a fantastic job of beating man through scheme. There really is a lot you can do with bunch formations, movement, etc. Doesn’t seem like Kelly wants that kind of complexity. So that leaves pretty much your WR’s being able to beat the 1 on 1 coverage–which it doesn’t seem the Eagles can–and the QB taking off against a defense that has it’s back turned–which Foles can’t.

      I think Chip will get a running QB in the draft.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        Kelly LIKES mobile QBs. His offense works best with one. he likes the mismatches they provide.

        He doesn’t NEED one and if Barkley shows some flashes I could see him rolling with him…but it’s def a preference.

        And besides, most of the guys coming out next year are zone read QBs. He’ll have his pick.

  • SeaDucks

    I can’t believe how upset I am by this loss. I will never be on the Foles bandwagon again. At least when Vick has a bad throwing day, he can still run. Nick has a bad throwing day and it’s game over. The D played incredibly. The whole team did well. Even Damaris didn’t do anything dumb. But Foles just SUCKED worse then any QB performance I have ever seen

    • Jason A Hines

      My thoughts exactly! Even when Vick is off throwing the ball at least he can still be a factor on the ground. When Foles is off what do we get? 3 pts on a day when the defense actually shows up to play. If you want to win games now (and most of us as fans want that) you gotta go with Vick.

    • Token

      Thats what I get for getting pumped about a Eagles game. Should of had better judgement.

      • #7

        You said you knew that Foles wasn’t the answer. So maybe you shouldn’t have been pumped? Maybe you shouldn’t have advocated him as the starter so hard?

      • damrvrhunter

        The better team won plain and simple. I am a die hard fan and yet it is abundantly clear that the Cowgirls are better as off today.

        • #7

          What? That is ridiculous. We should have beat them. They were not sharp by any means and they have probably said the same thing about themselves

          • anon

            Problem w most eagles losses we were the better team.

          • #7

            Ain’t that the truth

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          The aren’t the better team. We could (and should) have beat them.

        • biteme

          did you see them against denver? If they had a better o-line they would have won.

        • All Things Bad@ss

          I completely disagree. We should’ve and could’ve smoked them fools.

    • anon

      Yeah it was pretty terrible. I think he just choked. I think the pressure of being a starter might have just got to him, especially in this city.

  • SeaDucks

    Alright, the positives. All season the O has been dominant, or at least competitive. It was the D losing games for us. Today, the D held the second highest scoring team in the NFL to 17. They have been slowly improving, and I don’t think this is a one time lucky game for them. Hats off to the D, hope they continue. The O on the otherhand, I do think this was a one time “bad day”. Get Vick back and at least be competitive the rest of the season. Then I don’t care who we sell, trade, steal, rob, cheat, or lie to to land Mariota. Reuniting Mariota and CK will redefine NFL offense.

    • Isaac

      And reuniting Mariota and Kelly happens how, exactly?

      With Jacksonville trading the 1st overall pick to the Eagles?

      That’s a dream which isn’t coming true — unless the Eagles lose every game the rest of the year and Jax, NYG, TB win 4.

    • #7

      “Redefine NFL offense”

      You killed me with that one.

    • Maggie

      Agree on the D. Never thought they were as bad as some commenters kept saying. It took the Steel Curtain 5 years to win their first Superbowl after all.

  • RIP illa

    My instant observation…Ryans balled out today!!! Great effort by the D and didn’t notice too much off/zone coverage till later in the game when we already knew we were going to lose. Props to where it’s due, and that goes to Davis. I’m clearly and most certainly still a Davis hater but he called a pretty good game today. And yes I do think Dallas was out of sync in the 1st 1/2 but that should not take anything away from Davis and our D!

    • #7

      Preach finally came thru

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Color me shocked. Couldn’t tell me our D would look legit today.

    • biteme

      Dude, there were about a zillion pass interference calls against the eagles that could have been called.

      • RIP illa

        What’s your point???
        Were they called…NO!!!
        Did our D keep us in the game…YES!!!
        Did Ryans ball out…YES!!!
        Did Davis make asinine calls, such as blitzing Boykin almost every down, putting Graham out on the corner and blitzing, not playing Curry enough, etc…NO!!!
        Am I still not a fan of Davis…YES!!!

      • Maggie

        If you watch other NFL games you will see that there are PI’s not called in every game. Just like holding.

  • Jason Hall

    Now that the QB controversy thing is over we can get back to some football. Mike Vick at 80% couldve put points on the board today. His accuracy is not that good but his feet account for that. Now we all know that Nick foles is a backup QB because this is what happens when you gameplan for him.

    • Isaac

      Vick would be at 80% because he CANNOT run.

      What good would his “feet” be in getting points up if he’s relegated to being a pocket passer?

      Also, we have no clue how the Cowboys defense would have played the Eagles today. And while I think Vick gets some more points up, that’s only a 100% VIck. Not the current iteration.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        They would have played the same. Dallas isn’t the first team to play us that way.

        • Dutch

          No, they would not have ignored everyone else to focus in on Shady nor do I think their defender would have gotten a hand on that pass to DJax in the endzone. The ball was under thrown

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Well I mean the basic concept would have been the same of make him beat you with his arm type deal. Take away the short routes and stop Shady as best you can…but no they don’t completely sell out on the run with Vick in.

          • Basscase

            Yeah the way to beat this team is to shut down the run and make the QB beat you with his arm. Foles underthrows peoples (seriously – that Avant end zone pass gave me flashbacks of him throwing to Maclin last year against the Redskins, where it just bounced to him), and Vick doesn’t do a good job with anticipation.

            I think the results would’ve been closer but overall the same.

          • Jason Hall

            Cmon man are you serious? Mike Vick dominates every time that he plays the Cowboys 115 rating. Youre wrong there sir it wouldn’t have been the same we wouldve had atleast 3 touchdowns and McCoy would’ve had over 100 yds rushing.

          • Basscase

            It’s too easy to say “If Vick played they would’ve been up 3 TDs” without factoring in everything else that happens in a football game.

            Even with Foles, the offense looked really flat – guys dropping passes, inconsistent protection, etc. And division games are always the hardest to figure out – most people thought this would be a shootout, and it was anything but.

            I was really surprised at how they were able to take DJax out of the game so easily – do just enough to frustrate him and he does it himself. That’s not good.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            It wouldn’t have been the same. Vick would have run for a few. They wouldn’t have been able to key in on Shady and he would have pulled the trigger every time Jax had a step on his man. Oh and he is NOT missing that Avant throw.

          • #7

            I think we would have had over 100 more yards rushing with Vick in the game. People underestimate PRESENCE, but I would bet McCoy would tell us differently

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            DJax AND McCoy are missing Vick right now. lol

        • Chali

          They would have played it differently they consistently had 8 men in the box to stop McCoy

    • JofreyRice

      I think there is some combination of Kelly’s offensive concepts not doing enough to get guys free against man coverage, and the receivers not being able to win against man, themselves, because it’s lights out on the Chip Kelly experience when teams play that coverage. A healthy Vick would have been able to exploit the defense turning their back on him, but we know that’s not a long term solution. I think Kelly’s got to have a mobile QB in the draft.

      If Foles is going to succeed in this league, his game is going to be in the pocket, making tight window throws and helping his guys win against man. He was awful today. I’d take my chances with Vick and his bum hammy on making some of the throws Foles missed.

      Never saw him as the savior some did, but still surprised to see such a godawful performance from Foles.

      • #7

        Me too. I can’t lie I expected better

        • JofreyRice

          He couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn today, and it wasn’t just when he had pressure. He was making horrible throws with no one near him.

          • #7

            Yep

  • #7

    Foles did his job as a backup and I’m happy with that. Just couldn’t listen to all of the hype that was created on here and was not on the hype train and I’m still not on it. Nothing against Foles. He is a very very competent backup and he can come in and win a few games which is his job as a backup.

    We should have won this game even with Foles. Dallas hung 48 on Denver and we held them to 17. I say that we win this game if Vick were playing. Jason Hatcher, the best defensive player on the Cowboys IMO, specifically said that he would rather face Foles than Vick and he said that for a reason. No one fears Foles and I’ve said it for months.

    Bread and butter for the run game RO was axed from the gameplan after the first quarter. McCoy was shut down like we “vick folk” said it would by an average defense without Ware. Vick needs to get back as we have a winnable game against the Giants, a team he was beating on the road before the hammy.

    I like Foles, but he’s proven who he is.

    • Isaac

      And next season? Is Vick the answer at QB?

      What you’re saying is Kelly needs a running QB. And one who can stay healthy. There just aren’t many out there who’re any good.

      • Dutch

        No, Kelly’s said and it’s evident in an Option Offense, he needs two QB who can be a legitimate threat to pull the ball down and take off for 20 yds.

        It does no good to have a back up who is strictly a pocket passer. Vick may not be the future, but it’s obvious if Kelly finds a suitor from the batch of major college QBs playing on an option team Vick may still have a role on this team and it will not be as the starter but he can be a reliable back up for one of the new kids who may be available in this draft.

        You can cancel out Foles coming back he can not run this offense.

        • BlindChow

          Today Foles didn’t look like he could run any offense. Last week he did. No one is saying “small sample size” today, though.

          • damrvrhunter

            The guy had a complete mental breakdown. Sample size doesn’t matter in this case because you don’t come back from a performance like this afternoon’s.

      • #7

        Never said that. Kelly likes the THREAT of the run which appears to be the base of his offense hence the numerous RO fakes.

      • damrvrhunter

        No Vick is not the long term answer, they will draft another QB this coming draft. I have seen the ceiling on Foles and Barkley and it is very low. So go with Vick.

    • damrvrhunter

      I am going to second your comments on Foles. He is a very adequate backup in this league so am happy about that but he is not starting caliber period. At the end of the day Vick is not a long term solution at all but he gives us the best chance to win. I am happy if neither Foles nor Barkley get another snap ever it is clear that they are not “franchise” QBs so might as well go with Vick the rest of the year.

      • Maggie

        Barkley might have a future. How many total plays has he run? And he does have the arm. Needs more playing time to make a judgment.

        • anon

          he’s looked terrible every time he hit the field. you’d trust him to play games? doubt he’ll be active again.

        • #7

          I’m not sure what you’re seeing

        • JofreyRice

          besides being utterly fooled on the pick that essentially ended the game, the ball took forever to get there. That’s a throw he can’t make, and you kind of need to be able to hit the out throw to QB in the NFL. I know Troy Aikman said he thought Barkley had an arm, but trust your eyes, quite a few of his passes were fluttering. Besides, when does Aikman say anything bad about players?

          • #7

            Good point on that

    • #7

      Credit to Chippah for not over reacting on the QB decision. No problem at all going back to Vick

    • HowboutdemIggles

      I would agree with you now, I mean I wanted Foles to do well, but he played like shit today, but that’s what you get with some backups they have a couple good performances then stink it up that’s the way of the league.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    I’m just curious how many more times does Vick have to win this “QB competition” before some of ya’ll accept the fact he’s the starting QB this year?

    • Dutch

      That echo chamber is officially closed…….. we can avoid that topic the rest of the year and talk about how to move this team forward.

      I’m noticing Curry doing amazing things with his limited opportunity. Apparently there is a bit of bs coming out of the Eagles camp on talent and why some players aren’t getting more opportunity. I have yet to see where Curry is a liability when he’s on the field. I’m still having an issue with Boykin not getting opportunities outside, especially when I see Williams chasing someone down the field.

      The kid Wolff certainly brought a sledge hammer today. He played like a kid from Philly, drafted by the Eagles going against the Cowboys for the first time, Wolff and Curry. They were motivated.

      • #7

        Couldn’t agree more

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        Curry is a beast. He is definitely making sure they question why he was ever inactive to begin with. That’s how you win a starting job.

    • #7

      That kind of statement is not acceptable on here!!!

    • ztom6

      All I’ll say is Foles earned this opportunity, but he failed to make the most of it.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        He ain’t earn nothing. He’s the backup. The starter is hurt. He did his job. Badly.

        • ztom6

          He did his job well the two weeks prior. Made us want to see more. We saw more and now we know more, that’s the way I see it. Who’s the annointed “starter” this year just doesn’t matter that much in the grand scheme.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Still with the excuses.

          • ztom6

            I didn’t make any excuses.

    • damrvrhunter

      There she goes again like Vick is some kind of prize. An injury prone turnover machine who wins the job by default. Hip hip hooray Vick is our QB here comes the Super Bowl parade. Dynasty all-in!

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        LOL.

        You mad huh?

        • damrvrhunter

          I am ok going with Vick the rest of the way just not thrilled about it unlike you. So yes I am extremely disappointed “mad” that I have to settle for Vick.

  • #7

    2.8yds per attempt. Unbelievable….

    • #7

      How does this get a down vote? 2.8yds per attempt??? I can take one step and get 2.8 yards. That is unacceptable and it shouldn’t be acceptable.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        lol.

        It’s down voted ’cause you said it. That’s why.

        • #7

          yeah i know smh. all good though

  • James

    Where are all the Saint Nick fans this week?

    • #7

      crickets

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      B*tching at everyone who says anything they don’t like. lol

    • damrvrhunter

      Like a lot of his fans we are enamored with him because he is the anti-Vick. Not because he is enormously skilled but none of us expected him to be this bad. So color me “red” faced.

      • #7

        You’re exactly right. Exactly right. Anybody is better than Vick to a lot of people on here. No doubt. If Barkley’s arm wasn’t so weak they would pull for him

  • ojdiddoit

    Foles looked like a wilted shred of lettuce,Vick looked like I told you so and Barkley looked like 5 years away

  • Basscase

    Mike Quick kept mentioning that the Cowboys’ LB were average at best and they needed to take advantage of the mismatch between them and the TEs, but it only happened a couple of times.

    You can blame Foles for the overthrows, but it’s bad that they didn’t hammer that weakness more.

  • Loke1988

    This games on you Chip. You and the entire offense/game plan.