What They’re Saying About the Eagles

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about Chip Kelly, Nick Foles and the Eagles this week.

Peter King of TheMMQB.com thinks Foles could win the job with a good performance against the Cowboys:

One of the biggest misconceptions about Chip Kelly as a coach is that he has to have a mobile or running quarterback in order to win. He doesn’t. He needs a quarterback who can run an offense at a fast pace, even if that quarterback isn’t a runner. What it will come down to for Kelly, I believe, is which quarterback he feels gives him the best chance to win, while turning the ball over the least. If Foles plays well against Dallas on Sunday and doesn’t turn it over, I think it could be tough for Kelly to give back the starting job to Vick.

King has the Eagles 14th in his power rankings:

Finally, some impact plays from DeSean Jackson.

Chris Burke and Doug Farrar of SI.com debate the Eagles’ QB situation. Burke takes Vick’s side:

Vick also lets Kelly keep more of his playbook on the table — one of the main reasons he was the clear No. 1 quarterback for the Eagles coming out of the preseason. Foles’ passing numbers have been impressive thus far, but Vick has almost 300 more rushing yards. Obviously, Kelly can work his offense around a less-mobile Foles. Why do that, though, when Vick makes so many more options available?

ESPN.com has the Eagles up four spots to No. 17 in its power rankings:

A good day rushing opened up play-action for Nick Foles on Sunday. Foles was 9-of-12 on play-action passes, including a pair of touchdowns thrown deeper than 35 yards downfield.

Gregg Easterbrook of ESPN.com tags the Eagles for his best block of the week:

At City of Tampa, LeSean McCoy picked up 44 yards on a routine screen action when offensive linemen Jason Kelce and Todd Herremans hustled 20 yards downfield to make blocks. Looked like the kind of downfield blocking Chip Kelly got at Oregon.

Elliot Harrison of NFL.com has the Eagles ranked 18th:

The two deep balls tossed by Nick Foles on Sunday were things of beauty. No offense, but you don’t see that brand of downfield touch from Michael Vick. Said it over the summer and will say it again: There’s no reason Foles can’t play for Chip Kelly or start over Vick. With the latter suffering from a Miles Austin — I mean, a hamstring injury — Foles has the opportunity to prove it.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com has the Eagles 15th:

That offense is moving the football, no matter who plays quarterback. Should they stay with Nick Foles?

Brian Billick of FoxSports.com has the Eagles 17th:

The Eagles have won back-to-back games for the first time this season and will host the Cowboys on Sunday. With a win, they will take control of the NFC East.

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk has the Eagles 14th:

Three years after Mike Vick supplanted Kevin Kolb while he was injured, Nick Foles could be doing it to Vick.

Frank Schwab of Yahoo Sports’ Shutdown Corner has the Eagles 18th:

I don’t see any good reason for Chip Kelly to turn back to Michael Vick at quarterback. Nick Foles is better for the future, and probably better now too.

Football Outsiders had Foles’ performance ranked No. 1 among Week 6 quarterbacks:

Foles used a steady series of jabs to set up a small number of knockout blows. He threw ten passes in the first quarter, none more than 15 yards past the line of scrimmage. He then threw one deep ball in each of the next three quarters, but he made them count, completing them all for 100 yards and two touchdowns. His receivers also helped him out a lot. Riley Cooper and LeSean McCoy each turned passes caught within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage into 40-plus-yard plays.

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  • G_WallyHunter

    When is Jaworski going to come out of hiding?

    “Chip Kelly’s passing schemes and philosophy just won’t work in the NFL”

    • cliff henny

      who, captain flip-flop. can hear him now…’he’s showing what i’ve seen on film, seeing the whole field, making decisive throws with down the field accuracy’

      • G_WallyHunter

        Will he say that or will he admit that he was terribly incorrect?

        Hate the guy, he should go over to ESPN, his style of “journalism” is better suited over there…

        • cliff henny

          jaws speaks out both sides of his mouth. he’s complimented foles before, so he’ll just work off that. or, he’ll say he’s improved ‘x’ that’s why my previous statement,while was true, is now false.

          • jabostick

            In Jaws’ defense (and I agree with all of you, by the way), I think it is company-mandated nonsense he’s giving. Deadspin has a really good article on it and a sad/interesting note on Jaws talking up Tyle Palko

            http://deadspin.com/how-espn-manufactures-a-story-colin-kaepernick-edition-1185400028

          • cliff henny

            oh sure…think stephen a smith and skip bayless disagree on every subject. someone there has to play the heavy. jaws beating on kelly played nicely in at least 3 cities, dc ny and dal, i’m sure

        • EaglePete

          I actually thought he was the best analyst for a while. I still think he breaks down film better than most. Its when they throw their opinions around and make predictions that fans get unhinged and call him a flip flipper etc. Its part of the gig, they all do it. They all also wear out their welcome, so after so many yrs viewers get tired of them. I mean, do you really care if he guessed wrong on your beloved new coach and feel a need for him to eat crow.

          • G_WallyHunter

            No, I’m not that personally offended lol, but it’s just nice to see Jaws screw up, he’s always offering up these polarized opinions like he’s some genius

          • EaglePete

            ya I guess itd be nice though if he brought it up and gave him some props. I dont watch as much sports TV as I used to . I used to catch every show possible, too much other good tv for that now. Oh and being married doesnt help

          • G_WallyHunter

            Yea, I just want to see him come out and admit he was wrong, that’s all. spare the excuses

    • Basscase

      “Next question”.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Jaws won’t be sidestepping it whenever he decides to address it lol… he deserves to be scrutinized for his doubts

    • Will

      Surprised what? Jaws thinks arena football is a good idea LMAO….

    • BleedGreenJames

      And I love when it comes time that an “expert analyst” does give praise to the passing attack, they credit it all to Pat-freaking-Shurmur…

      • G_WallyHunter

        Right, because he’s the one with the NFL experience, let’s jump to credit him, ya that makes sense…..

        all CK, Pat has his west coast influence and his experience and ideas and all that other mumbo jumbo he brings to the table, which go a very long way.

    • 1972

      Hes such a flip flopping loser anymore. I cant stand listening to him

  • MAHLIK

    IF VICK CAN’T USE THE PLAY OF THE O-LINE FOR AN EXCUSE WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT. THEN I DON’T EXPECT NICK FOLES TO GET A PASS BECAUSE THAT O-LINE PLAYS BAD THIS WEEK. SUNDAY IS TRUTH DAY AND I CAN’T WAIT.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Why caps all the time? We can read it either way. Just really annoying

      Dallas is working with a Dline of 2nd and 3rd stringers, if they can get enough pressure on Foles to blame the Oline then I will be very surprised.

      • BlindChow

        The caps are to let you know he’s serious.

        • Andy124

          Oooh, or not. Maybe it’s this site’s new sarcasm font…

        • G_WallyHunter

          Oh, right, because I would have thought he was kidding otherwise..

    • Chris

      NO WAY YOUR CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN TOO? I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME

      • Andy124

        IT’S CONTAGIOUS!

        MAYBE THE INTERN SCREWED UP THE WEBSITE!

  • cliff henny

    good lord, is there any room left on the bandwagon? next week will be interesting, good game by Foles, what’s the next level for these talking heads. bad game, be like cockroaches when turning a light on.

    • Token

      Wonder how much pressure hes feeling. Biggest game the kid has played in. If he goes out and puts a whoppin on the Cowboys I see no way Chip can sit him down. I feel like this is such a test for him. Big division game. Against a team that can match us TD for TD.

      • cliff henny

        biggest test till the next test, lol. he’s played enough games, doubt he’ll feel anything more than the usual pressure. plus, he’s got kelly, jax and mccoy. i might feel confident qb’g against dallas’ street d-line with that crew

  • theycallmerob

    Burke/Farrar broke it down pretty well. Granted, Sheil captured the best part.

    The first half of what Farrar said about Foles was pretty silly, but the last bit was ok

    The Eagles seem to have the right approach in that regard, and extending Vick’s time over the short term at the expense of Foles’ development seems counterintuitive. The Eagles will most likely draft the optimal quarterback for their system in 2014, and Foles would then have the experience to be an Eagles staple — the backup quarterback who can come in on short notice and help his team win.

    • anon

      Has anyone actually seen or heard anything from Kelly that he’s somehow dissapointed with QB play? Is QB play really the biggest issue on this team b/c from what everyone seems to be saying it’s not. Secondary, OL, LBs, WRs could all use improvement. I think a better defense and better skill players will do more for the system than another QB.

      Plus what if we draft a QB (who will be loved by some not by others) and he struggles year one, when we otherwise have a playoff qualifying team?

      • cliff henny

        how many high profile offensive coaches get hired, then not hand pick a qb? rhetorical question, but seems like almost every single one gets their guy.
        .
        why would qb struggle? cam, rg3 tannehill didnt. look at the coaches they were dealing with.

        • Andy124

          Mike McCoy?
          Mike Shannahan in Denver?

          • cliff henny

            not sure your point. fact is, qbs dont have the same learning curve they had 10 yrs ago. especially athletic ones allowed to use their legs.

          • Andy124

            Actually I don’t have a point. You asked what coaches don’t pick their own qb. I thought it was an interesting question so I tried to think of some.

          • cliff henny

            oh, lol…sorry. guess is foles is elway-that’s be cool!, seifert didnt replace montana, that was kinda smart. maccarthy (gb whatever his name is) he hung onto rodgers. sean peyton hand picked brees.

          • Andy124

            I thought of McCarthy, but I wasn’t sure who was there first.

          • BlindChow

            McCarthy was in San Francisco when Rodgers was drafted. He wanted Alex Smith.

        • anon

          yeah, bc the league didn’t have a chance to adjust. A lot of success of RGIII and Cap was simply running basic read option. Look at RGIII now — hes terrible and shanny has admitted that read option made it cake last year but Ds have adjusted. SF would be in trouble if they didn’t have a D and a running game.

          Russel Wilson same thing as Cap — relies on run game and defense. He scrambles a lot and tries to make a play. He just doesn’t commit turnovers.

          Most new QBs come in b/c the team is terrible, usually part of that is the QB getting fired. Foles wins 6 more games this year — do you fire him? What’s the point of “seeing what he’s got” if you think he’s just a backup?

          • cliff henny

            me personally, if there’s 1% chance he can become more, you play him. i wanted kelly to see nfl defense with run threat with big arm, now see it with good timing short accurate throwing qb, something hundley and marioti can do all the above . i think future qb is in ’14 draft, nothing to date has changed my position, but if foles is answer fan-f’n-fastic. league hasnt caught up to kaep, his weapons are all injured. cam is struggling cause panthers (live in sc, local team) is coached by a moron. never got wilson hype, seattle is all defense. rg3 can play, just stinks he has shanarat and rat jr coaching him.

          • Brian

            Short? You can’t be referring to his height, or completed passes.

          • cliff henny

            foles threw more LOS passes than vick. it’s big part of kelly’s offense at oregon. the perfect qb is if you could somehow smash foles and vick together, so kelly seeing best of what each brings is exciting cause i know kelly is learning. imagine when he figures this thing out! going to be fun.

          • Brian

            The biggest difference from Foles to Vick is, Vick takes the QB Run option where Foles takes the screen option. I agree that a triple threat qb would be awesome in Chip’s offense, but I also believe that an accurate passer, with or without the athleticism of Vick, can win consistently in his offense.

          • cliff henny

            i agree. but when you have 2 guys sitting in draft, hundley and marioti, that have it all, why settle? i’ll enjoy rooting for next 10 games for foles to prove me wrong. we’ll see, no doubt it makes eagles future better if he does

          • Andy124

            Was Hundley doing anything last year? (non-rhetorical). I am wary of one-year-wonders.

          • cliff henny

            he’s definitely not a 1 yr wonder. to national scene, only because ucla has been down for awhile. kid is legit

          • anon

            thank you. But Vick might be too told to run. Remember when he took that long run in the WAS game and he came up a bit lame?

          • theycallmerob

            I think that is more best-case scenario: that he becomes so damn good we won’t need a QB at all.
            But, look at the timing of things. Next year’s draft is supposedly beyond deep at QB. And what NFL staff knows these players better than ours? More than half our coaches came from those ranks this past year. Most coaches do come in and pick a QB, with a few exceptions. I think Kelly is primed to pick one should Foles be nothing more than decent over a longer sample size.

          • #7

            RG3 looks lost back there. Last year whether people want to admit it or not, RG3 looked to me like a one read QB. Playaction he would seem to always hit his first read. Teams have taken that away this year and now he’s patting the ball and turning it over

          • BlindChow

            RG3 had Cam Newton-level body language in Sunday’s game. He just looked like he was having an awful time when he was on the field. I don’t remember that being the case last year, even when they were 3-6.

          • #7

            Pressure can do that to people. That what the diva gets

          • Eagles4Life

            That was one of the things that was highlighted a bit last year. Completion YPA were super high on play action and super low on regular plays. Not so easy anymore lol.

      • EaglePete

        well, QB is kind of important and I dont think that position is necessarily situated for the long term. Not even close in fact, still remains to be seen if Foles is the long term answer. The nice part is if Foles does play well going forward, he can be a starter while grooming a future QB. You really cant minimize the need for a franchise QB and you can just hope a player will be that guy. It would be a smart move imo to hedge your bet there and still draft a QB, maybe higher rounds also.

  • B-West

    The cheap shot at Miles Austin made this batch much more enjoyable for me.

  • ztom6

    first comment on the SI article, something to keep in mind:

    “Highly unlikely Chip Kelly will be looking for his kind of QB in the ’14 draft. He has long disclaimed special QB talents to fit his system, although his arguments have not been open for debate based on his work at Oregon. Mainly he has sufficient stock on site and way too many other personnel problems.”

    • Corey Dawson

      I think this is spot on, and might be a reason for keeping Vick as the starter. He only has a 1 year contract and might decide to walk if Foles is named the starter, though he might also finally realize his career is on the downslope and be happy in a backup role as well. Not too many teams are likely to take a risk on him and trying to teach him a new system, even if he did show he can learn one this year.

      If he does walk, that forces the birds to do something in free agency or the draft to get another QB, something they want to avoid in order to focus their efforts and draft picks on the other positions of need, especially on the defensive side of the ball at NT, OLB, and safety. They’re also going to need another tackle and guard soon on the offensive side.

      • Basscase

        I think Vick saw the market for his skills in FA last year and was happy to return to the Eagles. I don’t think the market will improve this year.

        Don’t forget, after the Giants game he made some comments that all but assured he would be out the door.

        • Andy124

          What’d I miss?

          • Basscase

            The whole stuff about leadership and junk. The way he talked, it seemed like he wasn’t coming back. Then he actually looked at the market for his skills (hint – there wasn’t one) and took the offer from the Iggs.

            The hype from Vick is strictly media driven, IMO.

          • Andy124

            Oh, you mean after the Giants game last year. I just couldn’t think of any really negative comments after this past Giants game.

            I don’t think there’s a huge market for Vick either. I’m sure he could land a job somewhere, but he’s not going to get top dollar anywhere, which I think is what you’re saying.

          • Basscase

            Thank you. Not meant to diss Vick. Just his value here is more than it would be elsewhere.

          • anon

            Yeah i was confused too. I think he wanted to go. I think he was brought back b/c there were no QBs in the draft (remember we took a really hard look at Gino) and Chip didn’t want to just roll with NF, so we had the competition.

            Vick was ready to go, but i think was rejuvinated by talking to CK. It’s clear he has a great affinity for this city, i wish he played a little better consistently b/c i’d love to have him as a QB b/c of all of the other stuff he brings to the table.

          • Basscase

            Totally agree. His leadership is underrated and guys could learn a lot from him.

          • anon

            You obviously haven’t listened to his press conferences recently, but keep thinking what you want. I don’t blame him for hinking about moving after last year — he was terrible / the team was terrible and fans weren’t really having it. Credit to him for coming back and really changing his perception and his game. He’s the one that got DeSean and LeSean on board with the system, it’s clear he was the leader of the team after the Riley Cooper incident and went a long way to keep the team together.

          • Basscase

            Not talking about his affect here after he was brought back. Talked specifically about what he said last year, and the market once he became a FA. Never questioned his leadership. Only questioned the market for an aging QB with accuracy issues who can’t last a whole season. That’s it.

            The question was about whether or not Vick would return after this year. And as terrible as Flynn is, he’s got youth on his side, and people still remembering his Packers’ performance.

        • anon

          To think Vick’s play this year wouldn’t allow some teams to give him another look it’s completely off base. Matt Flynn has a job.

          • Basscase

            Right, but Matt Flynn =/= Michael Vick.

          • aub32

            WHAT??? Flynn played the same Washington team and was so bad he got fired. Some of you are so ridiculous. Can you at least try to be objective?

          • anon

            I know, i wasn’t even going to respond.

          • Andy124

            Well, it’s a factual statement that Matt Flynn Mike Vick. He didn’t actually say anything other than that. Maybe he’s not implying exactly what you’re inferring.

          • aub32

            I know what he was saying. Matt Flynn is not equal to Vick. That’s a ridiculous statement. What the hell has Flynn done? He had one good game against a horrid secondary. Hate Vick all you want, but to say Flynn is equal to him is ludicrous. Vick started the season leading the number 2 offense. Flynn couldn’t beat out Pryor and was fired from Oakland. OAKLAND!!! I have never seen this other clearly biased commenter before, but I expect better from you 124

          • Andy124

            =/= and and != all mean not equal to. As in different, not the same as each other. I’m sure you’d agree that they are not equal.

            And that’s not my downvote. :)

          • aub32

            My mistake. I’m used to looking at programming language and did indeed misunderstand.

          • Andy124

            Yeah, didn’t think you’d react that way if you were reading it the way I was.

          • #7

            Andy124…wow…just wow

          • Andy124

            Read my next response to aub. I think you’re a little confused.

          • #7

            Doesn’t matter to me. All good

          • Andy124

            What exactly doesn’t matter to you? The difference between ‘equal to’ and ‘not equal to’? Because it’s a pretty important difference.

          • BlindChow

            Can we at least all agree that we haven’t seen Matt Flynn and Michael Vick together in the same room?

          • Andy124

            Mind. Blown.

          • #7

            What doesn’t matter is debating with you. That’s what I meant

          • #7

            NOW LOOK AT THIS COMMENT PEOPLE.

            A lot of you people on here are just nuts. Now someone tell me this is not personal….like a lot of folks posts are on here.

            That’s the difference, I don’t dislike Foles personally while a lot of people that critique Vick on here it becomes personal for them.

            I’m just not on the Foles train. Great guy and working hard to become relevant in the NFL.

            Instead of “Basscase” your name needs to be “Basketcase”

          • Basscase

            How is this comment personal? Please inform me.

            We’re talking about two different quarterbacks. Hence the “=/=”. I’m sorry if I didn’t spell it out for some of you who think that because I said “Matt Flynn =/= Michael Vick”, that somehow it’s a diss on Vick. It’s not. In fact, how and where did I discuss Vick’s skill?

            The problem I see with some of you is that everyone needs to pick a side in this Foles/Vick debate, whereas the ONLY thing I was commenting on was Vick’s ability to see a big contract next year, given how the market wasn’t booming of him after last year, and how he’s getting older. That’s it.

            Instead, some of you want to pigeonhole my Flynn comment as a diss on Vick, whereas the ONLY point I made about Flynn is that he’s younger, herego some coaches will look at his potential from GB and keep signing him, even though he’s incredibly awful.

            Does that clear things up?

  • BlindChow

    “Finally, some impact plays from DeSean Jackson.”

    WTF? “Finally”?!

    • Basscase

      Don’t mind Peter King.

      Unless it’s straight from the mouth of Jeff Fisher (or the nether regions of Brett Favre), his analysis is mostly irrelevant.

      • Soybot

        Unless you are the kind of person who enjoys your beer with citrus fruit in it.

        • Basscase

          Or soy pumpkin low-cal fruit lattes.

          I roll my eyes every time the man gives his “opinion”because it’s not from his mouth. Remember when he spent years trashing Donovan McNabb, only to write a positive piece about his “leadership” to boost his trade value, right before he went to Washington?

          Peter King is a tool.

    • Soybot

      Beat me to it….

    • aub32

      Now that King has finally recognized DeSean, they can boost his ratings on Madden.

      • anon

        he’s pretty good for me on madden so is our run blocking.

        • aub32

          Run blocking is dominant. I can literally eat away almost an entire half on one drive simply by following my blockers and taking what the defense gives me.

    • EaglePete

      ya, makes sense, did you see his production the last few seasons

    • #7

      Peter King lol. I skip right past his articles

  • #7

    The hype train is on the track and it’s at full speed

    • Basscase

      Not sure if anyone else shares my concern, but I think some people are letting the Dallas hatred cloud their vision.

      Don’t like the Cowboys, but think they’re being underrated. I know Sheil commended the defense against Tampa, but almost giving up a 99 yard TD drive to a QB in his second start is not good at all.

      • #7

        Couldn’t agree more. Romo, despite that INT against Denver, is playing at a high level and their safeties are making plays, especially Barry Church..I think that’s his name.

        I’m just in “sit back and watch” mode now. Haven’t been commenting lately. Don’t feel like getting drowned on here from the Foles hype.

        • Koala

          we’re not all personally related to Mike Vick

          • #7

            Neither am I. Going to let you people ride that hype train. I’ll stand on the side of the road and watch you guys crash

          • cliff henny

            no true eagles fan is hoping the foles train crashes.

          • #7

            Where did I say hope? My point is, you guys are treating him like the next coming…and you have a chance to be let down. You guys are EXTREMELY happy that Foles is playing well. When Vick played well, it was turned into a critique blog as to what Vick did wrong.

            Henny read the post. Never did i say hope. And if you did see that, you must be sippin on that henny right now

          • BlindChow

            Of course people are happy that Foles is playing well. What Eagles fan is unhappy that Foles is playing well?

            Oh, right.

          • #7

            I’m not unhappy at all. Go check my posts. I gave Foles credit. He played great against the Bucs. Not everyone is going to agree with you and your boyfriend Richard.

            I said I would WATCH the train crash, not hope. If you want to put words in my mouth so be it

          • BlindChow

            Not everyone is going to agree with what? What have I said that you disagree with?

          • #7

            Not going to agree with the Foles hype my friend. I want the Eagles to win at the end of the day, but the Foles hype, not on the train buddy and I’m not the only one.

            You people are falling right into the trap. You folks are even liking Mike Florio right now because he’s been positive about Foles and that guys is HATED on here.

            Why can’t I just be? LOL…so what I’m not on the Foles bandwagon. Why does it matter so much to you? I don’t understand

          • BlindChow

            Who’s Mike Florio? Referring to me as “you folks” reveals how deep your persecution complex goes. Where have I hyped Foles? Where have I said he’s the future? You make the mistake of assuming everyone who doesn’t blindly worship at the Altar of Vick is failing to do so for the exact same reasons.

            I don’t care if you don’t like Foles. But you’re going way out of your way to smugly condescend to anyone who isn’t all sad that the team hasn’t collapsed in Vick’s absence, and I will respond as I see fit.

            And if you wanted to “just be”, gloating about the Foles train crashing while you look on probably wasn’t the way to do it.

          • #7

            Take a look at the majority of these comments and you can see why I use the words “you folks”. You’re on the train too and so what? Support your QB, thats a good thing. The bad thing is, you can only support one on here and that’s Foles.

            And I wouldn’t call it gloating. I said it straight up. I’m not on the train. Unlike you, 1 1/2 games isn’t a big deal to me. Sometimes it seems like you people have never seen a QB before. “Foles is so smart..wow…Foles is amazing etc etc etc” while overlooking that the teams are a combined 0-11.

            Again, a win is a win in the NFL and he got the job done and thats a credit to Foles.

            And I worship no one but God. Sometimes it’s hard to understand why you people get so pissed off about my support of someone playing for the Philadelphia Eagles. We’re supposed to be support our team, right? Since I supposedly “worship” Vick, the rest of you people “worship” Foles. Since this is apparently the case, we are all guilty including you.

          • BlindChow

            Unlike you, 1 1/2 games isn’t a big deal to me. Sometimes it seems like you people have never seen a QB before. “Foles is so smart..wow…Foles is amazing etc etc etc” while overlooking that the teams are a combined 0-11.

            And this is exactly my point. When have I said these things? Others may have, and I know you are having a hard time making this connection, but not everyone who compliments Foles after 1.5 games has concluded he’s the future of the franchise. And you can’t point to a single post where I’ve “worshipped” Foles. Just one single post. I dare you.

          • #7

            General statement there. My bad BlindChow. The worship part…just read these threads.

            If I didn’t come on here everyday and if I didn’t watch every game, I would come away thinking that Foles is the next Tom Brady.

          • Brian

            Whether, or not, we think he is, we should all hope he is.

          • #7

            And that’s fine. Why can’t someone else have their own opinion? Everyone has to think Foles is the next Brady? Geez

          • defroe81

            no no you dont worship vick says the guy named #7 with a picture of a white vick…
            i think it bothers you that people are looking at the back up as being better than the starter and thats why you come out with all your sideways comments regarding peoples opinion on foles…

          • G_WallyHunter

            Screw Mike Florio

          • Mike

            Yeah, you sound so happy about it..

          • cliff henny

            you want it to crash. that means eagles lose. not believing hype and actively rooting against it are 2 seperate things. you arent an Eagle fan. i’m well on record saying i dont believe foles is answer…i doubt anyone in 24/7 questions my fandom

          • Andy124

            poser

          • cliff henny

            lol…anyone else cremate their dog with a #5 jersey and spread ashes in ocean?

          • Andy124

            Well, you just guaranteed my dogs extra hugs tonight.

          • cliff henny

            hugs?…f that, get the beast some pizza!

          • #7

            Do you know me personally henny?

            NOPE.

            I’m rooting for a team I’ve followed for 22 years to lose lol. Yeah ok. How fair is that? You say I want theEagles to lose because I’m not riding the Foles hype? Think about that henny…put the bottle down for a minute

          • Koala

            What’s special about Vick?

          • #7

            You tell me what’s special about Foles. Vick is old, remember? You should already know, since you’re an expert

          • cliff henny

            no, i dont…and pretty glad i dont…pretty sure you’d annoy the bejesus out of me…and, frankly, that’s damn near impossible if you like the Eagles or German Shepherd Dogs

          • Koala

            Vick is old, always injured and was never really as good as his fans like to pretend he was. Has a 53% completion percentage which would be considered low.. in college. He wasn’t playing badly this year I guess.

          • #7

            So since you’re so much about “team”, why are you rooting AGAINST Vick?

            Your “compliment” of Vick:

            “He wasn’t playing badly this year I guess.”

            Mine of Foles:

            “I gave Foles credit. He played great against the Bucs.”

            I’m not on the hype train and others aren’t either, but you and your cronies are trying to FORCE people on the train and that will not work, especially with me.

          • Koala

            I never said I was so much about team. Though being pro team and pro watching the NFL I know that Vick isn’t and has never been that special a talent that he deserves such undying devotion. Foles is a better QB overall right now and would have been a better QB in 2002 than Vick was as well.

          • #7

            So why are you on here then? You must be someone from PETA. As soon as you people think Vick is down, you slimy snakes come slithering out of your holes.

            I’ve been on these threads for years now since this site first first started. You see Foles play a good 1 1/2 games and you want to talk like you;re an expert.

            Get your ass out of here lol.

          • UABP

            “I’ve been on these threads for years now since this site first first started.”

            Isn’t Birds 24/7 about a year old?

          • Andy124

            aub’s not on the train… see anyone jumping down his throat? He’s not “waiting for the train to crash”. Talk about an inflammatory comment lol.

          • #7

            aub can do whatever he wants, he’s a grown man. I know why you ladies “jump down my throat”. I’m good with it

          • defroe81

            i jump on the eagles train whether the conductor is vick or foles. i root for who ever the starter is that still doesnt change foles begining his career and we dont know what he is really capable of just yet and that yo boy vick is on the backside of his career and really hasnt proven much in his whole time in the nfl. except for being an exciting player to watch. i dont wan to hate on vick but the way you vick loyalist bash on foles makes me have to.

          • defroe81

            saying your going to sit back and watch the train crash implies you think it will which means and im going on the fact your name is #7 you want it to crash as it is not the vick train. so really you are hoping it will crash. vick lovers are like little kids man i swear. at least vick haters admit to being vick haters foles haters are full of it. they act like they are ok with foles but then turn around and trash talk him say he is not going no where though he has not given many reasons to think that. they act as if his rookie season with no line no rb no wr was enough to justify that he is not the answer. then get mad when people point out that vick is not the best and there is 10 plus years of football behind peoples opinions. so the second year player won a couple of games real eagles fans are happy about that while vick lovers are sitting back waiting for him (foles) to have a bad game to say… see i told you so i told you he wasnt the answer… reality yall are not really living in it… now go ahead and throw out all the rushing yards with no superbowls to help justify your hero as solid qb an all time great… as if a qb’s primary job is to rack up rushing yards…

          • #7

            Did you find it yet henny?

          • cliff henny

            wanting hype to crash…we all know what that means. if somehow foles doesnt play well, that validates vick. it a stupid position, non-eagle fan stance. have fun annoying another fanbase in 10 games

          • #7

            I’ll see you in ten games sir. We’ll see how much you know..since you know me personally apparently

          • BlindChow

            That’s the thing. The only reason to post about how he will be “watching the train crash” is to gloat about how much smarter he is than everyone else. That’s quite a bit different than suggesting the sample size on Foles is too small to draw any conclusions (which I would certainly agree with).

            In fact, it’s such an extreme statement that it almost reeks of the sort of desperation that happens when things aren’t going the way you thought they’d be going. Eventually Foles will have a bad game, though, and guess who’s going to be the first one smugly gloating about how he saw it all coming way back when…conveniently ignoring, of course, the smug gloaters that came crawling out of the woodwork after Vick’s bad game against KC.

          • #7

            We shall see won’t we?

          • Koala

            Oh, weird . Well if you’re not related to Vick I assume he pays you or something(blackmail) for the fandom. I don’t understand the fanatical devotion people have for him. I don’t even hate Vick good for him he got his shit together but he’s just not special. I mean show me the wow factor.

          • BlindChow

            I don’t know, I mean, Vick absolutely has more “wow factor” than Foles. Even if it was more tangible in the past, Vick has made plenty of “wow” plays this year (particularly in the first couple games). “Wow” doesn’t always translate to wins, though. Look at Alex Smith.

          • aub32

            I think th Cheifs would be better off with 2013 Vick than Smith. Eventually the Chiefs are going to have to play Denver, the Colts and SD

          • Koala

            So he’s the football equivalent of a Michael Bay movie

          • Richard Colton

            and that road is in Atlanta, for those of you who are unacquainted with this fraud

          • #7

            hahahahhaha you just couldn’t help yourself could you. Sorry. Not everyone believes the hype

          • Token

            Hes not even worth the time anymore. Hes a ATL fan for anyone who doesnt know. Said he didnt even watch the game last Sunday. Wonder why…..

            Dont worry, he will be gone soon enough.

          • BlindChow

            To be fair, it probably wasn’t on in Atlanta.

          • #7

            NFL Sunday Ticket gets the job done quite well

          • #7

            I didn’t watch the game lol. Yeah ok.

            “Hes not even worth the time anymore.”

            YES!!!!!!

            That means you can ignore my posts. We’ll see how long that lasts

          • Token

            #7 • 3 days ago

            Lol. Driving my kid back to college. I’m not running from nothing

            Thats from the live chat thread during the game. But yea, you watched it right?

          • cliff henny

            he’ll probably be busy this weekend too…shocker.

          • #7

            Nope, I’ll be right here. My kids are educated. You should give that a try. A football game can be watched anywhere now. A guru like yourself should know that

          • #7

            Cliff Henny let me ask you a question since I can never get Token to answer one.

            If Foles plays well, are you telling me that you will not be gloating on here? Let’s be real here. I’ll start first.

            Yes, when Vick beat Foles I gloated some. Absolutely. After months of Vick can’t do this and and that” I did.

            Will you ?

          • cliff henny

            ummm, i supported vick. i still think he’s better than foles. but also know nothing makes Eagles better in long term than foles being answer. ten bucks no one slams me…cause, while still having personal opinion, i support team over player. you simply dont.
            on foles, no, i dont think he’s the answer. it’ll take more than 1 good game. i will be happy if they beat dallas, i’ll be encouraged if foles plays well. beating dallas is a great way to win over eagle fans. it’ll take alot for me to get off marioti or hundley as future, for multiple reason. pretty sure i’m not shy about expressing them.

          • #7

            Aight cool. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just a difference of opinion. Sometimes it seems that a lot of people think this blog is the world view in a sense, but it’s not.

            There’s some people in the world, including me, that wants to win now even if that means playing Vick. I could see if there was a chance that we could get one of those QBs coming out..hell we don’t even know if they’re that good. You can’t claim that you’re a scout or something henny.

            There are reports coming out that none of these guys are franchise guys…and I tend to lean that way also. Who has Bridgewater played against? Has he even been hit yet? His jersey is always clean. I just think that Vick gives us the best chance..brings more to the game than Foles. Maybe Foles can go out there and prove it. And also:

            “ten bucks no one slams me”

            Of course they won’t because you “supported” Vick. That means you flipped…supported is past tense so of course you won’t get slammed.

            I see you ignored the gloating part of the question, which was the main point. No matter though

          • cliff henny

            i’m not a scout. but it’s not difficult picturing marioti or hundley behind center. even kelly knowledges marioti is ‘pretty good’ and we se how he downplays everything. turn on tv, both can play. also, i’m putting faith in kelly making them better, he made both vick and foles better.
            .
            and ther will always be contrarian reports. but for 2 or 3 yrs all we’ve heard about is this boom crop of qbs in ’14. have 4 or 5 qbs coming out that have played the spread read since teir baby days in football. get kelly one of them, see what happens.

          • UKEagle99

            Can’t speak for those guys, I support who is under centre. I like Ws a lot more than Ls. There is no gloating, only pride.

          • #7

            Token, since apparently I have to answer to you, my daughter drove while I watched the second half of the game on my phone.

            They have what they call apps now. There is one for NFL Sunday Ticket that you can download for free. You should give it a try.

            Nice try though Token. Looks like you save all of my comments lol. I’m flattered.

            And I thought that I wasn’t worth the time? What happened? That lasted about 5 minutes

          • G_WallyHunter

            Wait, you aren’t an Eagles fan?

          • Richard Colton

            right, total clown. love that he changed his position to “I’ll support whoever the QB is” right after the Bucs game. That lasted 24 hours. You can take the Fanboy out of Atlanta, but you can’t take Atlanta out of the Fanboy. He’s been exposed. It’s over.

          • #7

            When you respond to a clown that makes you a clown. Give it up so you won’t be a clown anymore.

          • IDB

            And if it succeeds? If foles plays like a starter and his play leaves no doubt? I assume you’ll shut up and root for another squad, yeah? Root for the laundry and not the player. Or pick a squad that you can do both. Your childish hater stuff is tired.

          • Andy124

            I see your true colors. Shining through. I see your true colors. And that’s why I love you. So don’t be afraid to let them show. Your true colors.

          • #7

            And all of your true colors on these threads.

            Wanting Foles to be handed the job, upset about an OPEN competition that he lost, and getting hyped up about two wins that are a combined 0-11.

            Unlike you, I’ll say it again.

            REGARDLESS of the records, Foles played well.

            But with a “true” fan like you, you can’t even fix your mouth to say a single complimentary thing about Vick lmao.

            And you’re a true Eagles fan??? Sounds like YOU are supporting one player as you accuse me of doing everyday lol.

            Look at yourself for once and put down that bottle. That henny has you crosseyed right now

          • Andy124

            What, you don’t like Cyndi Lauper?

          • #7

            No compliment.

            Exactly what I expected

          • BlindChow

            Well, look at it this way: if Foles plays a few more games and ends up with a less than 50% completion percentage and is having trouble getting the ball into the end zone, they’ll be a lot less complimentary of Foles, too!

          • #7

            It would take longer for that to happen. Just my opinion

          • Nicholas Disilvestro

            and i’ll go on ebay and get you a vick falcons jersey to wipe those tears away. did foles kick your dog or something? what did this guy ever do to make you hate him (besides play well in place of vick…i guess you feel threatened)

          • #7

            Hate? Where’s the hate? Because I’m not on the bandwagon?? LOL

            Take a look at some of the posts on here about Vick and you will see what hate is

          • UKEagle99

            I read a lot of posts on here, I comment on a good few. I have to say, for the most part it comes across that you only support the Eagles because they have Vick under contract. At some point you have to get behind the guy that CK puts under centre. If not, you might as well join all the 1999 Dolphins fans who were previously Eagles fans but didn’t want McNabb!!!

          • UKEagle99

            “You guys” are fans of the same team you are, if we crash, you crash. I dont understand why you cant cheer Nick Foles on, he’s not Troy Aikmen!!

      • BlindChow

        The defense playing lousy won’t derail the Foles train, though. Foles playing lousy will.

      • EaglePete

        Look at Romos completion percentage, 70% or so if Im not mistaken. Hes done this for a while, hes a good QB who puts up great stats hence the huge contract. But oh wait, theres that little thing called clutch. Maybe we get to see it again on Sunday, Cowboys down 2 with 1:30 left. Here it comes….wait for it….wait for it……wait this is the Eagles defense…..oh no. Ha, I think Cowboys should win this division, but theres that clutch factor again. Just when everyone thinks they should, they dont. We can only hope.

        • Andy124

          The clutch tends to bite him a lot more regluarly late in the season. :(

          • BlindChow

            Well, we do play them week 17…

          • Andy124

            Good chance to get Barkley some experience. Guaranteed win regardless of qb!

      • UKEagle99

        Ah, see, you are talking defence… We don’t have one of those yet.

    • EaglePete

      of course it is, its the backup QB syndrome only with some special sauce since we got a taste of possibilities. NFL fans do this all the time, look no further than Andrew Luck this last game. They all have ups n downs, its who can be more consistent overall. Its the week in between of talking it to death that stirs it up even more.

      • #7

        Backup QB. The best job in all of Philadelphia.

        What a shame

        • Brian

          It is when the starter is completing 53% of his passes (26% in the red zone). We want the best quarterback on the field at all times. Right now that’s Foles. Maybe it won’t be in a few weeks, maybe it will. We want to win. We’re tired of losing, tired of being the bridesmaid, and tired of flawed quarterbacks. If that means buying into the Foles hype, so be it. If Foles crashes and burns, we have to wait, once again, to find a starting quarterback. Tired of waiting.

          • #7

            Hey Brian no problem with that at all bro.

        • Mike Calabrese

          When McNabb was in his prime did any of us want Ty Detmer in there? It’s definitely based on last few years production and our futur at QB. If Vick was a definite franchise guy no one would want Foles in. it’s based on what many have seen and just a want for something better. Even if Foles is not the better many of us recognize that we need to get better QB play.

      • anon

        Texans booed Schaub until they saw TJ Yates.

        • EaglePete

          but wasnt Yates the one who won a playoff game? I think they still want him with a week of work with the first team .Shaub is just getting hammered out there.

          • BlindChow

            Don’t they know Vince Young is still available??

  • Maggie

    “His receivers also helped him out a lot.” Seeing as no quarterback ever throws the ball to himself, I GUESS his receivers helped him out a lot!

    • Guest

      Don’t forget, the receivers don’t throw the ball to themselves either. I GUESS their quarterback helped them out a lot!

  • UKEagle99

    I’d prefer to be 32nd in the power rankings and fly under the radar. I dont care where people that dont watch the team, week in, week out, rank us.

    I hate the Cowthingies though, lets hope we can run up a big one, regardless who is under centre.