What They’re Saying: All Eyes On Vick Vs. Foles

Michael VickHere’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles:

Gregg Rosenthal of NFL.com recently put out his top-25 position battles. And guess who’s at No. 1?

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback: Michael Vick vs. Nick Foles. It’s No. 1 on the list because it’s a starting quarterback job for a team that might make the playoffs. It’s easy to forget Vick was getting MVP consideration only three years ago. He’s the favorite because of his salary and experience, but Foles has a legitimate chance.

Clark Judge of CBSSports.com looks at 10 burning questions going into camp:

How will Chip Kelly’s offense translate to the NFL? Not sure. One thing we do know, though: His players will be in shape. Kelly runs practices as if he were late for dinner — with several drills going at once and all at a frantic tempo. Does that make the Eagles better? Nope. It just makes them a vastly improved fitness class. But I don’t care how fast the Eagles practice; I just care how carefully they protect the football. Over the past 32 games they committed 75 turnovers, and look no farther when you wonder what happened to this franchise.

Ashley Fox of ESPN.com offers up 10 pre-camp storylines and includes the Eagles’ QB situation:

The bet here is that Vick, despite his inconsistencies, will win the starting job. But how long he will hold on to it likely will be an ongoing story.

Adam Schein of NFL.com lists the most important player on every NFC team. For the Eagles, he goes with Jason Peters:

For all of last year’s talk about the Eagles’ awful defense and the issues with Mike Vick’s health and play, I thought the biggest group of underachievers in Philly was the offensive line. Vick can’t stay healthy if he doesn’t have protection. Losing Peters for the season was a crushing offseason blow last spring. For Vick and the potentially dynamic passing attack to have a chance, for LeSean McCoy to have room to run, the Eagles need stability up front. Peters’ return — and his return to greatness — is paramount to Philadelphia’s success. This should be a vastly improved line (and Eagles team) in 2013.

Matt Williamson of ESPN.com looks at three camp issues for the Birds, including the health of Peters:

Before his Achilles injury, I thought Peters was the best offensive lineman in the NFL. He missed the entire 2012 season, a year in which the Eagles’ offensive line was simply horrible. Other injuries certainly factored into that ineptitude, but getting Peters back in the form we saw pre-injury would go a long way to making this a potentially excellent unit, especially with the addition of Lane Johnson. But therein lies the question: What kind of movement skills will we see from the 31-year-old Peters, a tight end in college who once possessed exceptional quickness, balance and agility?

Chris Burke of SI.com previews the Eagles and the NFC East:

Some people are expecting Chip Kelly to work magic from the get-go. Others believe he’s doomed to fail in the NFL. The bar should be set somewhere in the middle for Year 1. This is a team in transition, especially on defense. Plus, even the best coaches struggle when trying to implement radical scheme shifts, as Kelly may on offense. It’s possible a Michael Vick-led offense absolutely explodes under Kelly’s tutelage. More likely, the defense will continue to struggle a bit in 2013 and this team will be ready to contend again in 2014.

Patrick Daugherty of Rotoworld looks at the best- and worst-case scenario for LeSean McCoy:

Best Case: The beast is unleashed in year five. With coach Andy Reid no longer around to waste touches on Jason Avant and Clay Harbor, “Shady” pilots the most run-heavy offense in the league, making 2013 the heir apparent to his elite 2011. McCoy’s injury-marred, ineffective 2012 is but a distant memory as he leads the league in both yards from scrimmage and total touchdowns.

Worst Case: McCoy’s touches per game actually go down as coach Chip Kelly, intent on utilizing the powerful and explosive Bryce Brown, employs a two-back attack. Shady barely squeezes by 1,000 yards on the ground, and is actually out-scored by Brown. He’s a waste of a first-round pick.

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  • EuropeanEagle

    I think you can add Barkley to that QB battle. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kelly goes with Matt as his starter. Also, maybe I misunderstood Daugherty’s comment, but McCoy was never a first round pick. And after watching FischDuck’s videos I expect Lesean to do great under Chip’s running system.

  • Richard Colton

    Adam Schein is spot on. We have three, maybe four guys capable of running whatever offense CK puts together. But I look at this roster and only see one guy who can play a credible Left Tackle, and he hasn’t played in over a year.

  • Joethomas215

    I just want a Ron Mexico Jersey, is that too much to ask

  • Gary

    “[Vick]’s the favorite because of his salary and experience, but Foles has a legitimate chance. ”

    That may make Vick the favorite in the national media’s eyes, but I don’t see Chip thinking about experience and salary when evaluating the practice tape. If anything, Foles’ lower salary helps him.

  • Media Mike

    Person by person:

    Rosenthal: Vick can be cut and the Eagles are way under the cap. Salary plays no role. Vick’s “experience” is that of poor reads, batted balls, too many sacks taken, and too many turnovers.

    Judge: Yup 75 turnovers, far too often the fault of Vick, are too many.

    Fox: Nobody cares what she thinks / writes. I cannot honestly think of many worse writers.

    Schien: I agree with the Peters talk, but why all of the Vick references. How about Foles / Barkley needing a good O-line?

    Williamson: I agree Peters was the best o-lineman in the NFL in 2011 and will be again this year. He had oodles of time to heal and rehab. He wasn’t rushed back.

    Burke: Yes, I agree it is a transition year, but why assume Vick?

    Daugherty: Best case / worse case I agree. All NFL coaches should be required to say exactly how many touched each RB is going to get so I can better draft my fantasy team. Or they should pay me a fine for potentially lost money.
    In general………….NO VICK! CUT VICK! BANISH VICK!

    • Mr. Wu

      So you like Vick then?

  • Cj Martin

    I was thinking the same daugherty is clueless!

  • Weapon Y

    We’ll know by the end of the first week if Barkley has a real chance of being the starter. If he hasn’t gotten reps with the 1’s by that time, he’ll be too far behind. Chip likes to keep things close to the vest, so we won’t know who he truly likes better between Vick and Foles (and possibly Barkley) for awhile. The first preseason game against the Patriots will force Chip to send one of them into the huddle at the beginning of the game, and thus give us a clue on who the true leader in the competition is. If he follows his precedents at Oregon, we won’t know for sure until the preseason games end.

    Also, I can’t wait to see the reaction of all the ESPN talking heads if/when Vick loses the competition.

    • Dustan M. Howell

      Barkley is better than Foles. He might push for the number 2 job.

  • ohitsdom

    I’m a huge fan of Birds 24/7, but this “National Media” spotlight is such a waste. Everyone that reads this site understands this team better than these national guys who have loud, bad opinions based on old assumptions and past performance. Do us all a favor and stop repeating and helping spread their ignorance. I mean, if it’s an interesting nugget or a well-placed source, please do share. But if not, then what’s the value in it?

    • djack10

      Totally agree that the national media opinions are ridiculously bad, but it is a nice compilation to see what they are saying. It continues to reinforce how they just make it up as they go along. I don’t mind the post at all. It should be in the humor section.

  • Guest

    It’s obvious that Howie Roseman has been reading Sheil and Tim, as well as Tommy Lawlor. That “point guard” analogy to a Chip Kelly QB was your guys’ baby. For all we know, one of these commenters is Howie using a fake name.

  • Warhound

    Thanks….I don’t play fantasy….

  • BrickSquadMonopoly

    Its a forgone conclusion

  • southy

    Unfortunately this is probably just a scheduled jersey update from Nike, tweaks here and there…

    As fans, we can dream of a return to Kelly Green.

  • ohitsdom

    So he wouldn’t give you a verbal answer, but gave you a look that was definitely an answer? Don’t get too excited… Anyway, the process is long and lengthy and has to be approved by the NFL so is probably 2 years out if it’s indeed in the works.

  • Mike

    Fantasy Football.