Jordan Poyer: ‘I’ll Remember Who Passed Me Up’

Asked for a  moment that could shed some light on the make-up of Jordan Poyer, Oregon State secondary coach Rod Perry pointed to October 6 of this past season against Washington State. Poyer had three interceptions in the game to lead the Beavers to a 19-6 win. It wasn’t the performance that was noteworthy to Perry, but rather what prompted it.

“[Washington State] was jawing at him before the game. That got him fired up,” he said. “What I got out of that is that he is a highly-competitive guy that won’t back down. You don’t want to get him riled up. You don’t want to back him into a corner.”

If it’s firewood he needs, then he should be able to pull an acre’s worth from his draft experience. The consensus All-American and Bednarik Award semifinalist (top defensive player) was projected by some to be a top-100 pick. Instead, he slid all the way to 218 before finally getting plucked in the seventh round by the Eagles.

“It [was] a long couple days, that’s for sure,” said Poyer. “It was [agonizing] but I kind of want to have an idea of who passed me up because I kind of use that stuff when I play. I’ll remember who passed me up and I’ll use it and let it fuel me.”

Poyer (6-0, 191) started his college career as a safety before transitioning to corner as a sophomore. A special teams contributor all four years, Poyer became a starter in 2011 and earned second-team All-Pac 12 honors, ending with four interceptions and 16 passes defensed.

Last season the coaching staff decided to move Poyer around, frequently deploying him in the slot. He responded with seven interceptions (second most in the country) and 14 passes defensed, adding a pair of sacks and a forced fumble. Chip Kelly saw his versatility and effectiveness up close at Oregon.

“Just an outstanding football player,” said Kelly. “He’s a corner, he’s also a nickel, he’s also a very, very good returner. I thought we got some depth from a special teams standpoint. I think he had six picks this year as a nickel. He has a lot of experience playing inside and covering slot receivers. He’s a tough, physical, hard-nosed player.”

Oregon State decided to move Poyer inside for several reasons. He matched up well with slot receivers, showed the instincts necessary to create in that space, and didn’t shy away from the physical element of the game.   Plus, it’s easier to avoid throwing in a corner’s direction if he is exclusively on the outside.

Perry, a former Pro Bowl cornerback with extensive NFL coaching experience, likened Poyer to longtime pro Terry Cousin and Ricky Manning, Jr., whom Eagles fans are all too familiar with.

It came as a shock to Perry when Poyer was arrested in May for trying to get into a bar which he had previously been banned from.

“At times you make bad decisions when you’re young and you learn and grow from it,” said Perry, who touted Poyer’s work ethic in the gym as well as the classroom. “That was a one-time type deal. His character is outstanding.”

Poyer served as the gunner on punt coverage and as a punt and kick returner while at Oregon State. He doesn’t know exactly why he slipped in the draft, but plans on coming in and contributing early — whether it be on special teams or otherwise.

“I am ready to play wherever they need me. I’ll play on all special teams and however they want to use me I’m ready,” he said.

“[The draft] was a long couple days, but like I said I was just happy to go somewhere. I know I’ll make the most of my opportunity.”

Draftbreakdown.com cut-ups:

In Oregon State’s 2011 matchup against Arizona State, Poyer intercepted Brock Osweiler twice. On both picks (:18 and 1:45) he shows good anticipation and instincts. You can also see him as a kick and punt returner here (he muffs a punt in this game.)

In the 2012 Alamo Bowl against Texas, you can see  just how much his role changed from one year to the next. He lines up all over the place. He comes on the blitz at 3:05, tracks down the quarterback at the 3:45 mark and shows the ability to lay a big hit at 4:25.

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  • Richard Colton

    “I kind of want to have an idea of who passed me up because I kind of use that stuff when I play.” – so cliche and lame. I mean, I guess he’s expected to say that at this point, but it’s borderline ridiculous when you’re the 218th pick.

    • morgan c

      Right, especially since the Eagles themselves passed him up six times…

      Hopefully, he is good. But to expect anything substantial as a seventh round pick is foolhardy.

      • GEagle

        I despise this rational…to expect anything substantial as a 7th rounder is foolhardy…what a bunch of crap?…I don’t care what ANYONE says, this kid is NO 7th round Talent….there is ATleast 1 NFL starter to be had in the 7th round of EVERY draft..do your due diligence and find one….Like, do you dare compare a 7th round pick Like Poyer, to a 7th round pick like King?…This kid is as good, As ANY CB drafted round 3-7, and he has a chance to be better than more than a few 3rd and 4th round corners….then when you add in his versatility..what a pick!!!!!….Love his Charecter: Plqys with soo much swag, yet when he takes his helmet off, you are in disbelief that a firecracker like him, is soo humble, and laid back….I can’t even say that the Eagles will end up looking Brilliant for drafting Poyer, because this is no diamond in the rough, that only we discovered…anyone who has watched this kid play, the past two years, knows what a stud we got

        • Richard Colton

          Really good pick in my opinion, and crazy value. If his natural spot is nickel – what do they do with Boykin if Poyer beats him out in camp?

          • Capt. Undapants

            Boykin said that he likes to play outside too. I’m really hoping that’s the scenario here. Or let Boykin keep slot and move Poyer to the outside.

            I’ve been high on Chip Kelly so far, but he’ll lose major points in my book if he disregards Boykin because of measurables. Sticking with cliches “It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, but size of the fight in the dog.”

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            I wouldn’t be a fan of putting Boykin outside at all. I hear what you’re saying about the size of the dog and all that jazz, but I do not want to see 5’9 Boykin lining up outside against a 6’5 Megatron or someone that size. He’s meant to play to slot, and with teams having a lot of success with shifty small guys in the slot, I’m happy we have Boykin. I don’t think we should mess with a good thing there. He handled himself well for a 4th round pick last year, considering what he was surrounded with.

          • GEagle

            yeah, I know Boykin has experience on the outside, I know about the freak Vertical, but I have no interest in seeing bOykin move outside…

          • GEagle

            I doubt Boykin is going anywhere. I think the slot is his for the next 6 years

          • Capt. Undapants

            I hope you’re right my man.

          • GEagle

            One of them will have to be a dime corner…..but
            I think because of Fletcher’s two bad wheels, they will leave Boykin in the slot, and let Poyer concentrate on outside corner, so they can get him up to speed and ready to go if Fletcher’s knees don’t hold up….iF our outside corners stay healthy, my guess is Poyer will be our Dime..but 3years from now, I think there is a good chance that he will be our starting outside corner….He has the most playmaking “potential” since Assante, but it’s going to take him some time to get there….he isn’t ready physically. NEeds some time in the NFL strength program

          • Luke Ivan

            We only have 1 clear cut starter in my eyes and that’s Cary Williams. Fletcher is still an unknown as well as Boykin, Poyer, Hughes, Marsh & Lindley. I think they go Williams, Poyer, Boykin & Fletcher.

        • morgan c

          Per PFF, 0.87% of 7th round picks from the years 2000-2010 became full-time starters in the league (i.e. ‘substantial’). So ya, it is stupid to count on a 7th rounder becoming really good.

          • GEagle

            Who is counting? First of all, I talk about these kids in terms of 3 years from now…Yave a serious problem if you read everything I wrote, and interpret it as me counting on these kids to start in september. How many teams you think actually had Poyer on the board as a 7th round pick lol? I would be shocked, if more teams had him rated as a 7th, than a 4th-5th round pick….It’s not like the league insulted him and picked a bunch of scrubs ahead of him, it was a deep draft, I was disgusted seeing the players that were getting taken in the 6th round. And us not having pick…people love to talk about Combine warriors, but now people are bitching about a kid who slipped, solely due to a bad combine……guess we know what we are doing, because there is a damn good chance we landed two of those rare 0.87% of 7th rounders, who ended up working out….I’m sure Seahawks fans
            Iike you were bitching and writing off Richard Sherman lol….
            ……
            Instead of talking to me about 7th round picks..go read up, and watch some video, so that we can talking about Jordan Poyer!!! I enjoy reading up on late round prospects so, I’m not stuck talking about Generalizations!

          • GEagle

            rams viewed Warford as a first round pick, but they didn’t have a 2nd round pick…so they were praying for him to fall to them in the 3rd. Lions picked him in the 3rd 5 spots ahead of the Rams…so what is he a 1st or 3rd round pick lol? I think there is a bigger difference between a 1st and a 3rd round pick, then there is between a 4th and a 7th….Eagles had Barkley rated as a round 1-2 round pick, yet he was available in the 4th…Just because a player falls to round 7, doesn’t mean ANYONE rated him as a 7th rounder. he could have been rated as a 4th rounder by every single team for all we know, because teams don’t just target 1 player per round…they put together a board, and place a grade on a player. if a team didn’t draft Poyer in the 4th, all it tells you for sure is that the team liked another player more then they liked Poyer in the first round…considering teams have drastically different needs, and they value different things in certain positions…so to talk about Jordan as a 7th round pick is just lazy, and uneducated…go have that convo with someone else lol…

            eagles valued different things, and different traits than a lot of other teams…That’s never been more obvious than them drafting every player after Lane, who was rated ATleast 1 round higher on their board, then the round we drafted them in…and it’s sae to say that the Eagles did not have a 6th or 7th round grade on Jordan

          • jamesbondage

            We did draft Chaney and Coleman in the 7th rd and they were both full time starters for a season at one point. Does that mean that we’ve cornered the market on 7th rd starters? jk

    • Wilbert M.

      It sounds like he’s unclear on who passed him up – EVERYBODY!

      • dollamakeuholla

        Everybody! At least 6 times!!!!

    • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

      That rationale worked fine for Tom Brady.

  • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

    This kid has impressive reels. Poyer seems to be a fierce ball hawk who is disruptive in the defensive backfield. It will be nice to see him paired against Jax, or one of the other speedy receivers in camp.

    • GEagle

      My fav Poyer INT was when he baited Barkley and then picked him off. I hope fans understand what a stud this kid will be. PLAYMAKER, you know, something we haven’t seen in years….the Barkley naysayers complain that we shouldn’t have wasted a pick on a QB, BS…Had we not wasted a pic on Barkley, we would have most likely taken Wolff in the 4th, and then Poyer in the 5th….Not only did we get Barkley at crazy value, but the players we wanted and passed on, we ended up getting anyway….reminds me of last year, when I wanted Boykin in the 3rd, Foles got picked, and we ended up with Boykin in the 4th anyway…

  • cliff henny

    poyer is more physical at point of attack at slot than Allen was as safety last year. with his ball skills, wonder if any talk of putting 20lbs on him and moving him to safety.

  • h

    from these videos, im pretty excited about poyer. hes great in coverage and has good ball skills. the main problem i see is what haunts the whole eagles defense: tackling. teams seems to throw a lot of screens his way knowing that he would have a difficult time wrapping up the receiver/rb. his tackling form kind of reminds me of asante,

    • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.mccarthy.1042 Matthew McCarthy

      They throw a lot of screens his way because he compensates for his slow speed by lining up far back on the line. Tackling looks fine. Needs to get better at getting off WR blocks.

      • h

        a lot of missed tackles in those two games to say his tackling looks fine. also, he isnt slow i dont know where your getting that from. i would grade him as a late third early fourth rounder, so considering that they got him in the seventh hes a steal

        • nicksaenz1

          his 4.6 40yd dash time

          • h

            4.54, which is actually right in the middle of the pack for CBs. 40 times are a little overrated anyways. he didnt look slow in his film to me

          • Warhound

            So right. 4.4 for 40 vs 4.5 hmmm if they ran together 100yds and if the 40 time held for the last 60yds….. let’s see…the faster guy would be ahead by however far they can run in 0.25 seconds. Which is ~ 2.3 yards.

          • h

            warhound: im not saying hes fast, but he is fast enough to be a solid player. and your application isnt very practical. when in a football game does someone run a 100 yard sprint? ive never seen a 100 yard pass personally. also, with safety help on deep balls, where straight away speed is most important, it really isnt an issue. not many people can run a 4.4 forty either. so for him to get beat based on forty speed alone: say the pass is 50 yards (1.15 yards) downfield with no safety help along with a perfectly throw pass where he isnt in a position to jump and deflect the pass (which being one yard away, it isnt too difficult to get the hands up) he will get beat based purely off forty speeds. conclusion: there are many things more important than forty times…..hmmmm

          • Warhound

            I wasn’t being sarcastic; I agree with you – 2.3 yds over 100yds (which would never be run side by side) is not much. Also faster players tend to lose more speed when the pads go on.

          • nicksaenz1

            you didn’t see that commercial where Vick threw the ball out of the stadium? lol

          • nicksaenz1

            but they don’t run together. the CB backpedals for 10 yds while the receiver has about 10-15yds to build up a full head of steam. if his anticipation on when to turn to stay with any receiver running a seam route isn’t exact, then he’s burned, and that 4.54 isn’t catching a 4.4…by nearly 2.3yds

          • h

            yeah i understand. at the combine only 5 WRs ran quicker than a 4.4. i get your point though. all i am saying is there are many other factors than 40 times that depend on whether he will be a good corner. and for a team with good safeties, usually on a seam route the safety will help pick up the WR if the corner is burnt (never can trust eagles safeties). im nt saying poyer is great, but he has a chance to be a solid starter in a few years

          • nicksaenz1

            i wasn’t saying he doesn’t have good cover skills or anything of that nature, and I misquoted the time by .06 seconds, my apologies. however, when facing a 4.4 receiver or faster, the CB has to be spot on in his anticipation of when to turn to run w/ the receiver. A split second late and he’s burned. I think that’s why you keep hearing that 4.54 being called slow, or slower….. I wish I ran a 4.54

          • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.mccarthy.1042 Matthew McCarthy

            DRAFTMETRICS did a study to determine if physical measures could predict performance (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/combine-chronicles-cornerbacks-061000612–nfl.html). 40 time was the most significant in determining future success. Its not overrated. 81% of 3 yr starters ran 4.51 or lower. So he would be a exception to the rule.

            Poyers 40 time falls in the 28th percentile (not middle of the pack). Next significant measure is vertical jump (2nd percentile). Next is bench press (4th percentile). http://mockdraftable.com/player/4207/

            Theres a reason he fell to 7th.

      • OSbeav

        I watched all the Oregon state games his senior and have followed the beavers since the late 90′s. Poyer didn’t play of the ball to “compensate for his lack of speed,” but because of OSU’s scheme. They’ve always been blitz heavy to create pressure, leaving corners one on one the majority of the time (often without any help over the top). They play off to not get beat deep. Only last year did they incorporate even the nickel, as in previous years they simply didn’t have the depth for it. As a senior, Poyer showed to be a fine tackler and a good blitzer. Not great at getting off blocks, but that’s really three only criticism I have of him. Improved every year. Great special teams player, particularly at gunner and punt returner.

        • OSbeav

          The* only criticism. Phone….uuuurg

        • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.mccarthy.1042 Matthew McCarthy

          Thanks for the incite. Didnt focus much on the scheme OSU ran. Hows he at jamming? I assume the scheme didnt require a lot of that. His slow 40 time and only 8 bench presses concern me if hes asked to play a jam and trail technique.

  • GEagle

    Frustrating that so many teams already had the rookie camps..getting all sorts of news on how players like Cyprien and Elam made serious good impressions already…can’t wait to get some news about our rookies…instead of still recycling draft quotes…this week needs to fly by…Harbaugh(niners) said Quinton Patton reminds him of himself lol…the kid didn’t know players couldn’t go to there teams 24 hurs after the draft, the kid was so anxious, he bought his own plane ticket, and showed up at the headquarters the day after he was drafted…gotta love that if you are Jim Harbaugh

  • Wilbert M.

    I excited about the Poyer pick until I watched these videos. He is an Asante type tackler (try to grab on as they go by) and doesn’t get off blocks very well. He was beaten several times and got away with interference in the end zone. Very mediocre return skills. His best skill was as a gunner.

    • CJ

      How many corners actually shed blocks well? lol.

  • Ascher Levy

    Seems to me he missed a lot of tackles vs. ASU. Should fit right in with Eagles secondary.

  • xlGmanlx

    Only talk that matters is performance on game day.

  • Jack Waggoner

    I like the attitude. We’ll see if he backs it up, but that’s what I want to hear.

    One of my favorite things of this sort was when Charles Barkley came into his first training camp with the Sixers, and someone in the media asked him something along the lines of “What can we expect in your rookie season” and he snapped back, “I ain’t no rookie.”

  • dave

    Expecting big hits from a corner back is silly. Granted that isn’t Poyer’s talent. His talent is sniffing out plays and jumping routes. Offenses know Poyer in 2012, they typically went the other way and didn’t test him much and when they did it was only to run at him or throw screens. This won’t be the case much in the NFL, nobody will game play around Poyer, I think he will be a very solid NFL player barring injury.