Eagles Wake-Up Call: Gamble’s Input ‘Really Valuable’

Chip Kelly wasn’t the only new face in the draft room for the Eagles this year.

In mid-February, the team brought Tom Gamble in as vice president of player personnel.

Asked about Gamble’s input, Kelly said, “It was really valuable. I knew Tommy from when he was with the 49ers because he was on our campus all the time at Oregon.”

“I’ve seen and had the chance to interact with Tom and talk to him about personnel and a lot of different things for the last six years. I go back to when Tommy was looking at kids when I was at New Hampshire. I’ve known Tom as a personnel guy in this league for a long time. When the opportunity for him to come on board came about, it wasn’t like, ‘Who is this guy?’ I was very familiar with him and very familiar with his work. I thought he was a great fit and we were fortunate to get him. His familiarity, not only with the Eagles, because he had been here before, but with Howie [Roseman] and also myself and some of the guys on our staff that knew him. If you’re a college football coach, you know who Tommy Gamble is because he has been on your campus looking at players for a long, long time. I think that familiarity helped with us getting along together.”

It’s been a period of dramatic change at the NovaCare Complex. As recently as the 2012 draft, Joe Banner was the Eagles’ president, and Andy Reid was the head coach.

Roseman is the most prominent name still remaining. Earlier this offseason, owner Jeffrey Lurie absolved the GM of any blame for the 2010 and 2011 drafts. Roseman will instead be judged on 2012 and 2013. He acknowledged that he’s never been a part of so much change since joining the Eagles 13 years ago.

“Definitely not. I’ve been here and we’ve had the same people here for a long time,” Roseman said. “You think about a year ago this time, who we had in the building and who we have in now, and it’s dramatic at every level. So I’d be disingenuous if I told you that I’ve been through it before and it was business as usual.

“But that’s what makes it so impressive about getting on the same page so quickly. And that’s not only with Coach and I. But it’s the personnel staff. We have a new video department. We have a lot of new things in this building. And it’s exciting for the future of this football team.”

Kelly, Roseman and Gamble. Working under Lurie, they’re the men in charge of setting the course for the new era of Eagles football.

WHAT YOU MISSED

T-Mac looks at the logic behind Kelly’s actions.

The NFL is looking into the Russel Shepard claims, Tim reports.

Breaking down the similarities and differences between the Lane Johnson pick and the Danny Watkins pick.

WHAT THEY’RE SAYING

Paul Domowitch of the Daily News has an excellent piece up where he talks to a player personnel executive about the Eagles’ picks. Here’s what the source said about seventh-round pick Jordan Poyer:

This is a helluva value pick here. We had him as a late-five. Some teams I talked to had him higher than that. Speed was the obvious concern. Ran a 4.65. But he plays faster than that. Tight in the hips and doesn’t have great recovery speed. But he’s got really good hand-eye coordination. Had seven interceptions as a nickel last year, which is where he’s going to play at this level. Eventually, I could see him being moved to safety. He’s going to help them right away on special teams. He was a gunner on their punt coverage unit and also can return kicks. He needs to get a little stronger. He only did the 225-bench eight times. I know he’s a corner, but that’s still pretty bad.

Brian Solomon over at McNabbOrKolb.com offers his take on the Matt Barkley pick:

If Barkley does win the starting job, the offense would certainly cater more around his strengths and the read-option would be relegated to a side show. But the one thing that’s tough for me to accept is that there was that much foresight in the selection of a fourth round player. To suggest that the Barkley pick — which Kelly himself admits he didn’t expect to make — speaks some broader truth about the planned direction of the offense may be reading too much into it.

Meanwhile, the 2013 edition of the Eagles cheerleaders swimsuit calendar will be photographed in New Jersey to support revitalization efforts of the shore after Hurricane Sandy. All net proceeds from the shoot will be donated to the Hurricane Sandy New Jersey Relief Fund, which has raised over $32 million from more than 22,900 donors. More details to come, but the shoot will take place between May 6 and May 9.

COMING UP

Still plenty to dissect from the draft.

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  • addicted2mula

    Change is everything. I feel like another 2010 year but better. CK is a SMART man. If it plays out right. Playoffs here we come. Draft wise CK wow me. BIG sleepers

  • trixman

    Up until the Barkley pick, many assumed that Kelly was bringing some form of read-option offense to Philly. But with Pat Shurmur as OC, isn’t it possible that the Eagles offense, at least in 2013, will still be predominantly a West Coast offense? Is this what the Barkley pick is telling us?

    • GEagle

      There are some passing principles from Oregon that need to play off the OZR and IZR’s that were ran in Oregon(but I dont think that would have been implemented til atleast year 2 anyway)…..However, I think you will see alot of similarities in the pass game, creating Blatant mismatches, that lead to defined throws for the QB(even without ZR’s, I think Chip’s passing game will be very QB friendly, and will be much easier for a QB than what was asked of them under Andy…but Chips passing game, will need to be fused with a prostyle running game…We have Shady and Bryce, its not like IZR and OZR is the only way those two can run the ball. Shady devoured yards two years ago, and he never ran an OZR…our backs dont need Zpne reads to be successful…sure if you have a QB, who has some legit threat to run, shady could be very interesting running Zone Reads….but it isnt neccessary….
      …………….
      Too much is made of this running QB….there is sooo much from Oregon, that doesnt neewd a ZR to be successful. Much of ity can be fused with a pro style running back, so I think we make alot more out of this than Chip does…
      ………………
      My beef with Andy is that I feel like he was too stuborn. He wouldnt be honest with himself about the limitations of his starting Quarterbacks…The best coached games by Andy, were the games that his starting QB was hurt, and he had to defise gameplans for the backups…I used to think all the time, I wish Andy would call a game for our starting QB the way he would call it for a garcia or Feeley……Its almost like Andy stubbornly asked TOO MUCH of his starting QB…..Chip is the exact opposite. Chip’s mission is to make the game as easy for the QB as possible…Chip will create such blatant mismatches, that it will be pretty obvious to a QB that knows this offense, were to go with the ball….I honestly believe that with Chip at the Healm, and these weapons in place, that a trent Dilfer type game manager can have success with this offense….So, there is a chance that Vick could look really good in it, the problem is the way Vick is wired. Vick is wired to be superman, to make the spectacular play….Vick will make the game much more difficult than it needs to be….Which is why I cant wait to see Matt and Nick. They will learn the offense inside out, properly read the defense, and take the easy defined throws that Chip will provide for us….vick is incapable of being methodical, its almost like he cant help himself from swinging for the fences

      • Explorer51

        I agree wholeheartedly that AR was stubborn and he expected his QB to carry the team; no matter who was in there, there was always the possibility of a 40 pass attempt day, several years with mediocre WRs. In the McNabb peak period (and yes, he was a very good QB for about four or five years and an excellent one when he had a bonafide WR in 2004), I often thought of how AR’s personnel stubbornness about acquiring talented receivers doomed them when they got into the playoffs and the Def coordinators would take away BWest. Obviously it remains to be seen what Chip Kelly will do in the heat of the NFL battles but I find it hard to believe that he will be as stubborn and predictable as AR became in the second part of his Eagles’ tenure. We need to be patient though; Kelly, as smart as he is, will still need to experience his own learning curve (hopefully one that goes up each year…even each game) and he will need at least another season or two to get enough talent to be competitive and then ultimately to be dominant.

      • ClydeSide

        I am convinced that Chip will take it a step further than Oregon. I predict he will use “packaged plays” that have 2 or even three distinct plays embedded with a one-word play calls. For instance, the key might be a linebacker, so on a post-snap read, the QB will either handoff or throw where the linebacker was. New England and Oregon on steroids. Each play wil be designed to make the defense wrong–in every single case. It wil be up to the QB to make the right decision on the read. Sounds like Matt Barkley to me: at least down the road. On the other hand, this system will be easier on the QB (Vick this year) becaus the reads are very specific–if the LB goes this way throw–if he goes that way, hand off.
        People think that we need RGIII or Kaepernick. A Tom Brady-type has a better chance of long-term health. But that does not mean a traditional WCO either.

        • Geagle

          Totally agree….although I’m not ready to exclude Foles and annoint Barkley…I wouldn’t be surprised if 3years from now, both are running it well, and we see some great camp QB battles…with that said, it’s also very possible that we don’t have a true franchise QB yet on our roster. I think this year is crucial for Foles. Chip/gamble/Howie made Foles untouchable to a few teams that had some juicy draft picks to trade like Tampa and KC, so it’s obvious that they see enough in Nick to think he is capable of being more than just a backup..but Foles got 6 games of very valuable developmental experience last year, so it will be very important for him to show drastic improvement in year 2, which historically has been the year that the great QBs started flashing their potential….we thought we had some juicy camp battles these past years with Vick and Kolb….but this years training camp is going to be fascinating. Foles has to arrive this year, and grab a hold of this team, if he wants a chance at being the man in Philly…because once Matt starts to develope, and we get to the 2014 qb draft class, it’s going to be an uphill climb for Foles to win the job….Right now, all he has to do is beat out Vick. he needs to take advantage of it, because it will only get harder in 2014

          • ClydeSide

            Thanks for that thoughtful and considered response–and I agree with you on everything. On the other hand, it’s Vick this year. I have never been a Vick fan for a variety of reasons. But Chip’s uptempo system should make the reads easier than Andy’s jargon-laden WCO. Vick’s natural abilities are perfect for what Chip wants to do: speed and arm. Vick is one of the reason’s Kelly left Oregon.

  • ClydeSide

    READ OPTION does NOT just mean RUN PLAY. You can do read option PASS PLAYS also. You can do post-snap reads on “packaged plays”. For instance, you can set up a screen pass to the left, a screen to the right, and a shovel up the middle. The QB chooses the correct option POST SNAP (!!!) depending on what the defense gives him. That is a READ OPTION!!!!!
    And it is the kind of play that Matt Barkley WILL (!!!!) excel at. READ OPTION DOES NIOT NECESSARILY MEAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RUNNING QB!!!!!! SHEEEESSHHHH!!!

    • Bob A

      That’s true, and even on read option run plays, you only ask the QB to take a few steps and the mesh usually ends up with a guy like Shady McCoy. The QB only occasionally ends up being the ball carrier. The media wrongly assumes that some level of trickery is needed in order to keep defenses honest , that is they think the QB must run the football well in order to respect the fact that the HB will be getting the ball, but that’s not the case. In fact, the play is basically announced as either inside or outside read at the line of scrimmage depending on the pre snap position of the back. The problem for the defense is that the offense WANTS you to commit your guys based on what you see in the backfield then once they do, the correct QB read causes them to be short on people they need to defend it. That’s why Oregon won even when Darren Thomas was their QB, a guy with no speed at all. On the rare occasions that he ended up running the Ducks got a few less yards than the same hole would have yielded to their running back, but Chip couldn’t care less, they just simply ran to the line of scrimmage and called the next play

      • ClydeSide

        Sure–Chip used bubble screens and quick screens as an option if the handoff was not there. But you don’t even need the mesh to do read option. For instance, you set up two different pass plays on the same play–The QB takes a short drop and throws a quick WCO slant. But if that is not there,m the QB drops deeper and resets then throws it on an intermediate or deep route. The media and most fans do not understand the revolution in offensive philosophy that Chip Kelly is spearheading. I can’t wait until these dense people go, “WOW, did you see that? The QB read the defense and threw the ball instead of handing it off.” DOH.

        • Bob A

          Yep..actually most fans get that, you can actually find Chip’s lecture on inside and outside read options on the net, it’s great reading, but I’m guessing most media guys either didn’t bother to read it or didn’t even bother to find it. I’ll bet anything Sheil and Tim did the work though, you can tell by the quality of All 22 and other posts.

  • GEagle

    I think we finally got the infrastructure in place to have real success…We had success under Andy, but it was limited, we could only go so far. 2 more drafts like 2012-2013, and we will have a very strong roster.

    • Richard Colton

      I’m still not convinced we have our superbowl QB on the roster, also think we need an impact defender. How would this team look in 2014 with Jadeveon Clowney and Mariota?

      • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

        Fletcher Cox has a chance to be an impact defender in the 4-3 under. We absolutely do not have a Super Bowl QB on the roster. A wildcard berth is my Super Bowl this year. I’ll be extremely satisfied if we get that far, but my bar is set pretty low right now. I just want to see improvements on special teams, tackling, and turnovers. That’s a great start in righting the ship.

        • Richard Colton

          and if you could pick 9-7 wildcard with Mike Vick, or 5-11 with either Foles or Barkley where you see real improvement towards the end of the year, which would it be?

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            5-11 with the young guys, absolutely no question. I’ll all for short term pain for long term gain.

          • GEagle

            Easy choice….give me a young gunner showing significant improvement and I won’t care what the 2013 record is…actually, Ideally..Foles or Barkley will lead the greatest offense the world has ever seen this year, yet the defense or special teams give up 12 late drive TDs with 30 seconds left in the game..Foles or Barkley look like Montana, and we go 4-12 and draft MR. JADEVEON!!!

        • xlGmanlx

          Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer won and Rex Grossman made it to a SB. We don’t have to have a HoF’r, just some one who doesn’t turn the ball over in the playoffs.

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            Just some names I’m gonna throw out here.. Simeon Rice, Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, John Lynch, Ray Lewis, Tommie Harris, Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher.. common thread here is all those guys had great defenses. We on the other hand.. well, not so much.

      • GEAgle

        If Mariotta apeared in our locker room this instant, in an Eagles Jersey, we still wouldnt have a superbowl QB on our roster….but Mariotta would increase our odds of having a player that can be devloped into a SB winning QB….Mentally, intangibles, how they are wired, QB intelligence, I think Matt and Foles have a chance to become a farnchise guy…but its really all about the development and the environment(Nature vs. Nurture lol)…..Basically, Im from the school of thought, that you dont become a 4th round pick, without having enough Physical tools that can be developed into a Top player…but the mental side is everything, work ethic, indominable spirit, relentless competitive drive, football intelligence…
        ….
        Trust me, I dont sit here an envision Foles or Barkley hoisting Lombardi Trophies in an Eagles Jersey, but at this point in their young careers, I dont think its impossible to develope into good enough players…Its such a hard position that you cant give them much more than a 10% chance(and even thats probably generous)…but There are so many QB’s drafted, that I think dont even have a chance because of the mental part(Geno) and the intangibles…..Keep in mind, that NONE of us really have seen the best of what Foles can do yet. Im sure there is soo much untapped potential, that fans havent even seen yet. What I do know is a rookie that got to play 6 games, is going to be an improved player in year 2. The game will slow down for him….How much will Foles improve? How much will the game slow down for him? Impossible to know……But, this was an extremely valuable draft class in the midrounds…Teams with some good draft picks like the Tampa Bay Bucs wanted to aquire Foles…extra picks to a new coach trying to turnover his Roster is extremely valuable…Heck, they tried to trade back into the 3rd to get Barkley, if Chip didnt see some serious Franchise “potential” in Foles, he could have easily traded Foles to tampa for a 3rd and draft Barkley…But even for Barkley, the Eagles were not willing to part with Nick, that says something…Forget what we think of Barkley, its clear that the Eagles thought Highly of him, yet we werent willing to give up Nick to secure him…
        ……………
        Uhhh putting Clowney in my head this early is just Cruel Colt…We very well might need an impact defender. Or, we could have some on our roster already and just need to develope them. Graham was a beast last year, if he doesnt suffer any knee setbacks and Improves from last year, he will be pretty close to being an Impact defender. Cox will be THAT GUY, the only question is does that guy Arrive This year, or Next year? For all we know, Kruger could be a friggin Terrorist by 2015, or he can develope into an average player. We have alot of talented young defenders, hopefully we have the right coaches, and the kids have the right attitude needed for them to realize most of their potential… We could potetentially have a top starting defense already in place for 2015..it just depends on will guys re-injure themselves, and how much of their potential, will the young players realize:
        Pred: Graham
        3: Cox
        NT: Logan
        5: Kruger
        SAM: Barwin
        Wil: Kendricks
        ILB: Demeco
        LCB: C-Will
        RCB: Fletch/Poyer
        Nickle: Boykin
        S: Phillips
        S: Wolff
        Joker: Curry
        Every single one of those players, has potential to be a solid starter on a top 10 defense, and a few have Superstar potential….How much of the potential they realize, and how good can those players Gel, remains to be seen

        • Richard Colton

          you have four starters on D from a draft where the first defensive player wasn’t taken until round three. What an A+ draft that would be! If Poyer and Kruger make the team and contribute on ST and as subs, that’s great.

          • GEagle

            I can’t tell you how pumped I am for Kruger. I doubt I will see to many 7th round picks in the futu that I believe in more than Krugs and Poyer….I think midway thru the 2014 season, Kruger and Barwin can form a nasty combo on the strong side..and Cox and Graham can form an even Nastier Combo on the weak side, with Bennie holding down the middle…
            ….
            when judging Logan, I think people are watching too much of his 2012 tape, and not enough of his 2011 film..He was shackled this past season by the schemes, Much rushing, read and react, even spying QBs, doing all the dirty work..2011 he was unleashed more and you get a better idea of how dangerous he can be in a few years as a gap shooting NT. He was one of only a handful of plays at the combine that benched 30reps, very strong guy, with short area quickness, and Long arms that are importAnt keeping lineman from getting their hands on him..
            …..
            now Krugs will bring the NIGHTMARE to ONE NOVACARE STREET…Love his game, because he is a nice blend of power and speed…Just put on the BYU, or USC tape to see him moved around all over the line, creating havoc for every lineman that was tasked with trying to lock him,..He is constantly pushing lineman back in the pocket, has nice chase and pursuit speed, great Bullrush, but also quick crafty, gap shooting moves, also has the strength to hold the line. I’m so excited about him. I used to try to watch Star, and Krugs often made it very difficult to pay attention to star… Thorton better enjoy his starting spot while it lasts, and Vinny Curry better move back to OLB, because 2years from now, Krugs will be a menacing 295lb force!!! really like the thought of Krugs and Barwin on the strong side

          • GEagle

            Correction..MUSH rushing

          • cliff henny

            honest question…where do you get all these tapes on players, youtube?

          • GEagle

            There are some of the games on YouTube….but I subscribe to this site where I get the edited coaches tape, so I can basically watch any game in like a half hour….I will give you the name when I get home

          • GEagle

            I also download games from pirate bay

          • cliff henny

            must have strong virus protection. torrent streams online, always thought those carried high risks

          • GEAgle

            I use Kaspernsky, and its not expensive, just renew it once a year…been using torrents every day for like 3 years now, never once had a problem…

          • GEagle

            Colt, it’s crazy for me to say this about 7th round picks…but I don’t think there is any chance of Poyer and Krugs not making this roster.

  • Honest_T

    From what we’ve heard CK say, everything has a purpose, and he doesn’t seem to be the type of guy who wants 2 guys on his roster just holding clipboards. I would not be surprised if CK uses multiple QBs in the same game, on a rotational basis (at least on year 1)

    If we can agree that Vick can do things and create mismatches that Foles/Barkley cannot, and Foles/Barkley can do things that Vick can’t, then why do we have to have the same guy at QB all of the time? Tell me that wouldn’t give DC’s fits trying to game plan for not only the different personnel groupings, but also for different QBs!

    Whether this actually happens or not, the point remains that CK is a breath of fresh air, who has all of us thinking differently about things we all took for granted.

    • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

      Sorry,this won’t happen. Have you ever seen a 2 QB system in the NFL? As they say “If you’ve got 2 guys, you don’t have 1 guy.” Teams carry 3 QB’s on their roster but only dress 2 on gameday, so there’s not gonna be 2 guys holding clip boards.

      Offenses can’t be bouncing back and forth between two completely different QB’s, it would disrupt their timing and rhythm, all the chemistry you work all off-season and pre-season to gain. There’s a reason you don’t see it, and there’s a reason why you’ve never seen a team makes a playoff/Super Bowl run with 2 guys. You need to pick 1 guy and roll with him, until he gives you reason to go with the other guy, be it injuries or bad play.

      Now before you go and say “well what about the wildcat”, that’s just a few gimmick plays (big emphasis on the gimmick) that’s basically dead in the NFL.

      • Honest_T

        I’m not saying it will happen, but no one has given a good reason not to. The Birds made it to the playoffs after McNabb went down with an injury and Garcia went 5-1. Alex Smith & Kapernick were both starters on the team that won the NFC Championship. Tim Tebow replaced Orton mid-season and took the Broncos to the Playoffs, and beat the Steelers! So there are plenty of recent examples of teams winning playoff games with a QB that didn’t “develop the chemistry all off-season and pre-season.”

        We don’t have anyone on our roster right now, who does everything as well as Kap or McNabb in his prime. So why not mix it up a bit. I’m not saying change in the middle of the game, but if one QB gives you a match-up advantage against a particular D, why not go with him over the other guy? If Vick wins the job in camp, but isn’t the long term answer, why not give the younger guys experience in situations that suit their skill set and will build their confidence, while allowing Vick to contribute when his skills are best utilized?

        For me, “no one’s ever done it” isn’t a reason not to, and recent examples show teams have won playoff games and even made the Super Bowl with a QB that didn’t win the starting job or have the “chemistry” in camp. Just saying I don’t think we should be surprised.

        • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

          Your examples are of starters who go down to due injury and then the backups come in and play well. That’s a big difference between having 2 guys come in and out during a game. Not even comparable.

          If Vick wins the starting job but then plays bad, he will get benched. That’s just a given. But that’s not that situation you were talking about in your first post.

          It’s not “no one has ever done it” it’s “no one does it because it does not work”.

    • ohitsdom

      Has Chip Kelly ever used a 2 QB system? Not to my knowledge. That’s not going to change now that he’s in the NFL.

    • Token

      Pretty sure CK has said he doesnt believe in the 2 QB crap.

      But I have watched what I could of the Darron Thomas led Ducks. Foles or Barkley could run that offense. They can both throw well on the run. They dont have to be running for yards.

    • GEAgle

      NO CHANCE IN HAPPENING!

  • Dominik

    From the Domowitch article:

    The one reservation I have is that, at Oklahoma, you’re never in a
    third-and-13 situation. They got the ball out fast and played fast.
    It’s hard to analyze his pass-protection in situations where you need
    three seconds to throw the ball because they were rarely in those kinds
    of situations. It’s going to be a bit different facing the likes of Ryan
    Kerrigan and Jason Pierre-Paul. It’ll be interesting to see how he
    handles some of those guys. But you can say the same thing about (Eric)
    Fisher and (Luke) Joeckel.’’

    Interesting thought. The common view was that Kelly saw the No Huddle Hurry Up approach Oklahoma ran as an advantage for Johnson, because he would knew the pace of the new-Eagles already from college. And that’s probably true, anyway. But the disadvantage of it are the 3rd and long situations which the scout responds to. Will be interesting to see.

    But a great article. The scout seems to be pretty honest about his grades of the players. But I don’t really get his view on the Kruger pick. One more year at college and he would have been a Day 2 pick sounds like awesome value for the 7th rounder. A 7th rounder can have one year learning before he has to deliver on the field. Heck, a 7th rounder can learn for 3 years if he contributes afterwards, and it’s still value.

    • GEAgle

      Kruger is young enough, and skilled enough, that as of Today, he has Legit, NFL starter potential. How much of his potential will he realize, is a different story….But to get a guy, that by 2015 could become a BEAST starter for you, and is also a good fit for your new scheme in the 7th round….cant be considered anything less than an A+. Poyer and Kruger were two of the best picks(in terms of value), in the entire 2013 draft..and I dont care who says any different

      • Richard Colton

        2 young “potential” guys. Kruger & Logan. Kiper said if Logan had gone back to school, he would have been a second round pick. Kruger – what’s he? 20?

        • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

          I’m not sure where all the hype is coming from on Kruger. He’s got a great frame that he can grow into. He’s a project right now, that’s it. We got him in the 7th round for a reason, he isn’t the 2nd coming.

          • xlGmanlx

            I like a project for the Chip Kelly staff, the reid era proved they don’t do projects so well.

          • GEAgle

            really wish they would have taken on a raw OT project with a ton of athleticism, like Luke Marquardt out of Acusa Pacific University..take a project now, invest 3 years in him, and you could have a guy ready to fill in for JP once he retires…
            ….
            Kruger compared his game to JJ Watt today, talking to Mike and Ike lol…Here’s hoping the kid is right! lol

          • Richard Colton

            your boy Marquardt signed with San Fran – which may be good for us If we’re interested, because they certainly have pleanty of depth on their O-line

          • GEagle

            Lol…he stays in college one more year and he doesn’t get passed round 3….please just watch the BYU tape..there is an edited version, easy to find, where you can watch the entire game(defensively) in ten minutes….watch that tape, and them come back and let me know if you still feel like acting like captain KilljOy….if you only judge draft picks on what they can do for you in 2013, then it’s barely even worth talking about,…by 2015, I will be surprised if he isn’t a force, assuming he is wired the right way…for a player so raw, to push the pocket they way he did, from just about every position on the line, its very exciting, especially considering he will put on about 15-20lbs of muscle by 2015…what I really like about Krugs, is watch any time the offense was backed up to their own 5yard line, Krugs would taste a safety, flip the switch and wreak Havoc!!!…..very excited about this kid….

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            How about we see if he even makes the team in 2013 before we go talking about how much of a force he’s going to be in 3 years? You can speculate all you want, I understand you like his tape. He looked good against BYU, I get that. But he was not dominate in college. Not all his tape is as good as that 1 game. He’s got a ton of work to do on his technique and to add weight. So pardon me if I’d rather wait till I see he can do any of that before I jump on your Kruger badwagon.

          • GEAgle

            I dont feel the need to convince you..im stating my oppinion on the kid. I know all about the tecnical problems…
            …….
            Weakness: Plays with a high pad level too often. Pops upright off the snap and will give up leverage. Needs to add more weight. Struggles to bend as a pass rusher. Lacks counter moves, will get stuck on his block. Inconsistent hand placement
            ……
            Any idea how many incredible NFL players were drafted after not being dominant in college…I believe in the kid. I dont need you to believe in him…But, If Im going to post my oppinion, and you feel the need to crap on it unprovoked, because “He was a 7th round pick”…well than thats a bunch of crap!…now your last response you actually decided to tell me why, instead of just your ever so eloquent and valuable” He is a 7th round pick” argument..and we can debate football all day…
            ……..
            I see physical ability that can be molded into a beast…and there are alot of smart football people that feel the same..Whether or not he has the charecter to be great, I have no clue…But In MY oppinion, he can be better than his brother. kruger is probably the top 10 defenders on this team Im most excited about. I dont need you to change your mind…but I will require you to make some intelligent football points if you want to take the time crapping on an oppinion I took time researching

          • GEagle

            Btw, he compared himself to J Watt today…lol

        • GEagle

          Krugs turns 21 this month I think…that’s still ridiculously young. So excited about that kid. I actually don’t even like his brother, and think he is over rated…I think Joe can be a much nastier force..
          ….
          Interesting that the jEts are moving Coples to OLB. he could become a scary force as well with Sheldon Rich playing in front of him

  • Johnny Domino

    Early May calendar shoot? In Jersey?

    Bring a sweater.

    • Wilbert M.

      High beams will be on.

      • Johnny Domino

        You’re welcome.