Mayock, Kiper On Zach Ertz, Bennie Logan

Here’s what analysts had to say about the Eagles’ selection of Stanford tight end Zach Ertz at No. 35:

NFL Network’s Mike Mayock: “What I’m seeing from Chip Kelly is we’re going to start to define this offense. He took a tackle last night that’s the best athlete amongst any of the offensive linemen. Now we’ve got a detachable H-Back tight end that runs great routes, kind of a positional blocker. …He’s got great hands, and at 6-foot-5, 250-plus pounds, you can line him up in-line, in the slot, out wide. You can move him, and he’ll use that big body, he’ll create separation, he’s tough. I think that’s a heck of a pick and another offensive weapon for the Eagles.”

NFL Network’s Brian Billick: “I equate him to Jimmy Graham with New Orleans. …I like the way Ertz uses his body. His body is very athletic.”

ESPN’s Todd McShay: “In a lot of ways, that makes sense if you look at what Chip Kelly wants to do. This is a guy that is very fast, very athletic, and they moved him all over the field at Stanford.”

ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr.: “Big kid, you talk about the separation that he can get. I think his route-running was outstanding at Stanford. This kid is 6-foot-5, 250 pounds. 112 receptions the last three years, 15 touchdowns, has some shake after the catch. Great route-runner. You’re talking about a kid who I think can improve as a blocker. He’s a better prospect than Coby Fleener, who went early to the Indianapolis Colts, early second round. This kid can play.”

And on Bennie Logan, the Eagles’ third-round pick:

Mayock: “Another really solid double. 6-2, 310, long arms. Hard-working playmaker. He can get up in gaps and make plays, but he’s also stout against the run.”

NFL Network’s Charles Davis: “He’s a guy that could be an excellent rotational defensive tackle inside who can give you some flash plays.”

Pete Prisco, “Logan never quite lived up to the star billing. But at 6-2, 309 pounds, he has great quickness, is strong at the point of attack and does a great job of using his hands. He had only five sacks the past two seasons, but he is capable of getting upfield as a pass rusher. He is a former defensive end who has bulked up, so the speed is there.”

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  • Ascher Levy

    Need to stay with defense from here out. Free safety thomas in the 4th.

  • addicted2mula

    I love all the piccs! Especially Ertz. A guy even Chip Kelly couldnt stop. Why not draft him

  • CJ

    still need that 5tech. Jesse Williams?

    • Richard Colton

      A lot of us has Jesse going to the Eagles at #35. I’d like that pick.

      • CJ

        I’ve been yelling at the TV for him at both picks yesterday, but there’s been some good value at both, so I’m happy thus far. But we need that 5tech. Cox/Logan/Williams is a solid front with Sop mentoring Logan in the middle.

  • Please don’t quote Brian Billick.

    • JofreyRice

      seriously…Jimmy Graham!?? Ertz is nowhere near the athlete Jimmy Graham is. Just not in the same league.

      • FireBreather

        Lol you totally just made a comment you obviously no nothing about. You’ve not seen Ertz run one single play have you? You caught a little Graham coverage on ESPN once & now you’re making unqualified draft analysis’ hahaha….

        • JofreyRice

          Yes, I’ve only watched ESPN once, and I don’t know anything about my own comment, you’ve hit the head on the nail.

  • DB Depth

    This draft is/was deep for defensive backs. However, they’ve come off the board quickly. So far… 7 in round 1, 7 in round 2, and a run of 11 coming off in round 3! That’s 25 of the first 93 picks, or just over a quarter of the draft (26.9%).

    I’m not sure what’s left on the Eagles board as far as DBs go, but they might need to act quickly! Some of those new guys they signed in free agency have injury questions. For example, if the former-Giant can’t play we might be looking at another season of Allen or Coleman.

    • JofreyRice

      Yeah, I think that’s going to be the case. It seems like they really believe that adding backups and guys with laundry lists of injuries constitutes “addressing the position”. Frustrating and depressing, because they’re going to be getting shelled by passing attacks again.

      • Token

        It seems impossible the secondary could be worse than last year.

        But i agree. It would almost be a miracle for Fletcher and Phillips to be able to both stay healthy. And Chung kinda blows. Safety stays a position of need not addressed. And corner…. What happens when one guy goes down? Theres zero depth there. Curtis Marsh, who they obviously have faith in……………..

    • If you add Thomas today, our safety situation is not near as bad as last year. You have Chung, Phillips, Thomas, Coleman and Allen competing for 2 spots. Could be a lot worst.

      Rome wasn’t built in a day and you just can’t fix everything with one free agency and one draft. I’ve been preaching it for awhile and I looks like I was somewhat correct.. Chip focused the top end of his draft on his offense as it will be easier to bring that in here from day one, and see how the defense looks after the dust settles and focus on that in 2014 draft.

      • Token

        But who is good out of that group? Phillips. Probably the biggest injury risk. Everyone else could be replaced by a 7th rounder and you wouldnt notice much difference.

        But I agree. He wants his offense going. So just draft all offense from here out. Why not? Get it the best you can. Try to outscore people I guess. Because any defensive pick from here out probably isnt going to have that big of an effect anyway.

        Then next year trade up and get a real franchise QB prospect. Everything else goes toward D.

        • I think any combination of Phillips, Thomas, Chung and Allen can be good. Great? No. But definitely serviceable. I don’t really think any aspects of our defense, except maybe Fletcher Cox, will be great this year. But I think you’ll see a lot more discipline, less missed tackles, better effort all around. A bend but don’t break approach. Offense will be the key.

  • DunedinEagle

    So far I’m impressed by the picks. As long as Howie is relegated to doing research for player types Chip wants and Chip has major influence as far as the final say is concerned I guess I can get over my Roseman distain. That said I still need to see an impact player picked to play defense.

  • nicksaenz1

    I don’t dislike the Ertz pick, I just would have preferred to move down a few slots since Cyprien was off the board, and tried to get another fourth rd pick

    • JofreyRice

      Ertz isn’t a guy you need to select in the top of the 2nd, IMO. Could have moved down and picked T. Kelce if Ertz fell off the board. However, Chip Kelly didn’t face Kelce or the Cincy Bearcats in college.

      • Zachary Kahn

        Or, take the best player available and add a dynamic weapon to your offense that will help cover your defences ass for a few years while it inevitably makes a tougher transition.

        • JofreyRice

          I hope you’re right. I’m concerned that Ertz is a limited athlete that never really refined his blocking skills at Stanford. He does move pretty smoothly, and has a lot of experience route-running, but he’s not going to have the same size advantage in the pros. I actually like Kelce better than Ertz, but that’s JMO. I think Darius Slay, DJ Swearinger, Jamar Taylor, or Arthur Brown all would have been better BPA’s, had we picked them instead.

          • CJ

            Zachary might be on to something though, I hadn’t looked at it that way before. You know the D will have a steep learning curve, so just try to outscore teams until they can develop.

            “Shutoutability” won’t come overnight, and they need to win games in the interim to keep his job.

          • ICDogg

            I think if you have a very strong offense, even if the defense is still lacking, then you have something to really build on. I think this works at least as well as incrementally improving both and not really getting either as up-to-par as you would like.

            This is an unbalanced approach, but balance is overrated.

          • ICDogg

            We’ve been clamoring for a credible red zone threat for years, and this is what we have drafted.

            I think the red zone is a 3-TE set now. Casey is the F, Celek is the Y, Ertz becomes the X, replacing Maclin. Not sure who the Z is.. they might put another big guy in there like Benn in short range.

        • nicksaenz1

          Fair point, and like CJ, hadn’t looked at it through that lens, but i question that he was the BPA at his position, let alone on offense, or on either side of the ball. We’ll see. I’m obviously hoping you’re right, here, because this strategy in the later rounds makes no sense to me.

      • nicksaenz1

        Agreed. With all the injury history in our defensive signings, this approach, ESPECIALLY with now adding Barkley, makes no sense to me. We should have taken a corner or safety with that pick, in my humble opinion.