Oregon OL Kyle Long Could Be an Option In Round 2

We’ve written quite a bit in this space about the possibility of the Eagles taking outside linebacker Dion Jordan with the No. 4 pick.

But there’s another Oregon Duck who could be on the team’s radar: offensive lineman Kyle Long.

Long (6-6, 313) took a round-about path to the NFL, but is now considered to be a legitimate Day 2 prospect. The son of Howie Long, he excelled playing baseball and decided to attend Florida State. But Long battled substance abuse problems, got a DUI and was kicked off the team.

He spent time in rehab before attending junior college for a couple seasons, and eventually landed at Oregon in 2012. Long wasn’t even a full-time starter in his only year playing Division I football, but he’s shown enough to go as high as the second round.

“He played for Chip Kelly at Oregon. Kyle Long, if he’s still there, would be a viable option for the Philadelphia Eagles,” said ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. “Coaches like familiar players. Obviously Kyle Long has a ton of versatility. He has the bloodlines with his father Howie and his brother Chris. I think he would have to be in the discussion along with Menelik Watson from Florida State.”

There’s a chance the Eagles go offensive line in the first round, with Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel, Central Michigan’s Eric Fisher or Oklahoma’s Lane Johnson. But if not, Long could be an option with the No. 35 overall pick in the second round.

“That’d be cool,” Long said back in January, when I asked him about a potential reunion with Kelly. “But he might have wanted to just be done with me.”

Long was obviously joking. He and Kelly shared a special bond during their one season together in Eugene.

“Coach Kelly is there for his players,” Long said. “I feel like a lot of coaches aren’t really present with their players and don’t know what’s going on in the locker room, don’t know what’s going on outside of football. Coach Kelly has a great understanding of what his players are all about.”

As for fit, Long provides versatility, having played both tackle and guard with the Ducks. And he’s obviously familiar with Kelly’s scheme. His 4.94 40 at the Combine ranked third among all offensive linemen.

The main issue with Long is that he only has one year of football at a high level under his belt, and it’s not as if he’s a young prospect. Long will turn 25 before the 2013 season is over.

But no one knows better than Kelly how much time Long will need to adjust to the NFL game. If the Eagles don’t take an offensive lineman in the first round, and Long is sitting there at No. 35, he’ll be a name to watch.

Below is a good Yahoo Sports video in which Long tells the story of his journey to the NFL.

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  • PeterAkkies

    I like the story and hope things pan out for Long. But this seems a little too Danny Watkins-esque to me. 25 years old and new to the position. It’s the same reason why, not even having watched any tape of them, I’m not a fan of Margus Hunt or Bjoern Werner. I wonder whether someone has looked at whether players who don’t come from backgrounds where they’ve played football for all of their life do worse in the NFL?

    • Geagle

      Yeah, but in fairness to LONG, the kid didn’t just figure out what football was 2years ago. whether he committed to football late or not, I’m sure he still had a decent understanding for the game growing up under the same roof as Howie and Chris Long…Watkins fancied himself a figure skating, Canadian, Fireman…I don’t even know wtf Margus Hunt was doing 4years ago…..Kyle Long’s substance story, and maturity remind me ALOT of a young Brian Dawkins……If chip Kelly wasn’t our coach, there would be some concerns from me. but if Chip drafts him, it means he knows he can handle him, and that would be just fine by me…Some Mocks say he could sneak into the end of round 1. other Mocks say we could trade back 10-15 spots in round two…his true value is probably somewhere in the middle, like #35 where we pick(just a guess tho)

    • Geagle

      if people don’t have a problem drafting a kid from Ghana who didn’t know what football was two years ago in the top 10, then no one can complain about Kyle lOng in round 2

  • Richard Colton

    Yeah – the CK reunites with former players: Dion Jordan (4), Kyle Long (35), and Kiko Alonso (101) would be a cool storyline as well as great value at 1st, 2nd, and 4th round picks.

    I like Long – he’s a mauler and (as GGeagle will tell you) nasty as FLOCK. If DJ Fluker, Menelik Watson, or Terron Armistead are sitting there at #35 – I might consider one of them first. Like I’ve said before, if this draft breaks a certain way, and we end up with Fisher and Fluker with the 1st and 2nd picks, I’ll be happy.

    • Geagle

      mean, Nasty SOB. brings that Attitude to your Line. He is really wired like those old school lineman who were QB Body guards that took it very personal when you hit thier QB. hit Long’s QB, and he will make it a point to FOCK your world up for the rest of the game, and I like that ALOT! his Nasty streak reminds me of probably my 2nd favorite Lineman in the NFL(Peters being first), Trent Williams, Nasty MOFO’s that don’t Block defenders, they HIT THEM!

      draft Long, and you will be getting some Todd Herremans VERSATILITY(yes the Versatile theme continues)…and we have seen how Valuabe Todd has been to our Ine these past few years. it’s on thing when you can jump from the Right side to the left side with ease, but when you can start jumping back and fourth from Guard and tack, that’s valuable!….Does anyone actually think that Howie Long is going to let his kid make a fool out of him? this kid has the bloodlines, he has the support system, and if Chip Kelly drafts him, I would have confidence knowing we are getting a bulldog. QB’s love to have a guy like Long fighting for them. This kid is a warrior in the trenches. I wouldn’t FOCK with Kyle Long….

      I also love that him and Dion are working the Mma training regimen with Jay Glazier(believe me, it’s NO gimick)…You guys might’ve how insane I am about football, believe it or not, mixed martial arts are my true passion in life…I can tell you first hand as someone who has experienced both sports, how great Mma training is for Football(I would have given anything to have known what MMA was when I was a teenager)…sure the boxing side of Mma helps these athletes with there footwork, and overall athletic Timing..but the wrestling aspect of Mma, is what’s so darn valuable for Olineman/Dlineman/Pass rushers…It’s so valuable in terms of leverage…believe it or not, Judo is extremely valuable for playing football in the trenches, but Pro football plays haven’t figured that out yet. judo is all about, using an opponents momentum against him..and it’s really counter intuitive to your natural instincts.When you think you should push your opponent, you really should be pulling him, and vice versa. it would be so valuable to players in the trenches, in terms of getting your opponent off balance, and using his leverage against him…Judo is one of the lessor known martial arts in America…so when NFL guys are doing Mma training, they are really focusing on the boxing, kickboxing, wrestling aspects off mma(ju jitsu is only ground fighting so it doesn’t help football)…but when a top Olineman or Dlineman figurs out that he should start taking Judo serious in the Offseason, man he is going to have a tremendous advantage against his competition in the trenches…

      first, nfl players realized that Ballet would help them. then they figured out yoga would help them, now its boxing and wrestling…and can’t wait to see who the guy that figures out how much Judo can help them will be(possibly Aurthur and Chandler Jones might be doing some aspects of it already because there brother is the light heavyweight champion of the world, but he doesn’t come from a camp with a strong Judo base, so I’m not Sure).

      • Richard Colton

        I like the MMA angle too. It’s not so much being able to throw a punch or a kick when the ref isn’t looking, it’s more of a mindset. Same reason we still train people to jump out of airplanes in the Army – the excerise itself is largely pointless – the point is getting a bunch of Soldiers in one unit who are willing to something hard and dangerous.

        • Geagle

          exactly..the punching and kicking isn’t the point…footwork, athletic dexterity, leverage as well as the grit, and toughness that you get on the mental side is what makes the training valuable. Playrs also get to do different workouts that they don’t do in a football training regimen, so it helps with your ever all cardio and athletic ability as well

      • theycallmerob

        Can’t agree more. I work as an MMA instructor part-time, and we’re just starting to get more athletes, football players in particular, signing up at my gym. Balance, discipline, diet, core strength, hand speed/reflexes, endurance…no joke, if you train correctly. I love the Huls hire.

        • Geagle

          Just the mental side of wrestling alone is invaluable to defensive and offensive lineman…Playing Oline, you block for like 6 seconds at a time, and then you take a break until the next snap…well wrestling training is kind of like Blocking as an Oline, but for an extend period of time. So the lineman who are training wrestling will have a whole other level of blocking, muscle endurance over the ones that aren’t training wrestling. it’s really valuable which is why I love the Huls hiring.

        • Geagle

          So much Mma training is valuable…something simple that fighters do:
          Splashing water into there eyes, trying to train them selves to not blink. A guy like Deacon Jones made a probowl career out of making his opponent blink momentarily, so he could beat him with is speed. Eventhe simplest Mma exercise are valuable to football players

          • Geagle

            Made a Hall of Fame career…

          • Warhound

            Historically, a combat solider wielding a sword encountering a highly trained Nobleman had one very good chance to win: stab the blue-blood in the face, preferably in an eye (aim small – miss small). These Nobles did not usually train against this due to the high degree of danger so they had little experience with things coming at their face. Now, back to football…..

          • GGeagle

            Im into the samruai culture……….. hahaha so basically, I would change, “stab the blue blood in the face” to “chop the round eye’s head off” lol
            Samurai’s are the most discaplined. Fall your mission, Lose all Honor, take your life! Imagine if Eagle’s players had to Hari Kari (suicide) that ass if they lost thier honor by blowing an assignment? Hahahahah Nnamdi and Allen would really be pointing at each oither then!

          • Warhound

            I’ve fought many kendo trained warriors and they have very devious attack sequences (oh… all this is for a sword against a sword) that are designed to leave an opponent with his arms awkwardly crossed. Most of my success came from striking first and decisively before they could get going. Way off topic…….

          • Richard Colton

            You two are in rare form today. OK – just for kicks: “With the 101st pick, the Philadelphia Eagles select: DJ “samurai” Swearinger, safety, South Carolina”

          • GGeagle

            Id Take Swearinger all day! Why not? we wanted Dashon Goldson, and DJ reminds me alot of young Dashon…Heck, Id consider Swearinger if he was on the board in the 3rd…so he would be a pretty no brainer pick for me at 101…I cant wait to see this draft. Not just for the Eagles. People down talk this draft, but I think this draft will have a nice effect on the quality of the league. I expect this draft class to help alot of teams going forward

        • Warhound

          It never ceases to amaze: how many athletes know NOTHING about proper nutrition. Starting back in the ’80s I found the advantage of understanding the chemistry of the body. Hmmmm….the books: “Eat to Win”, “Peak Performance” and “28 Days to Yoga” come to mind.

          • GGeagle

            its increible isnt it ? to hear a guy like like Chad Johson, in his prime, at the top of the NFL living off a McDonalds diet. MIND BOGGLING!

          • Warhound

            Was it….Ray Lewis, I think, would have other defenders (esp his SS) over in the evening to watch film and eat proper meals prepared by his live-in chef!

      • Warhound

        Buddy Ryan sent his d-linemen to a Judo academy somewhere in ‘Jersey.
        Also, traditional kung-fu style horse-stance training would reduce knee, ankle and Achilles injuries.

        • Warhound

          ” …that don’t Block defenders, they HIT THEM!” This comment made me think about training fighters (all types: weather they strike w fists or feet, swords or staffs) so many strike to the target not THROUGH the target. Similarly, many footballers do not block through their target.

          • GGeagle

            its really not a cliche…When you puch through a target, or block through the target, it makes such a world of a difference…and you are absolutely right that its incredible how something so simple is lost on so many of todays athletes

        • GGeagle

          really? figues it would have been Buddy to figure that out?!

        • theycallmerob

          Nice horse stance shoutout, Warhound. That, along with snake and cat, build leg strength like nothing else.
          This is a video with one of our young “warriors” in training. You can see snake at 1:30, horse at 1:48

    • Wilbert M.

      I think Alonso is one of the best ILB’s in the draft. I’d take him ahead of T’eo in a heartbeat. I doubt he’ll last until 101 but he’d be a nice addition and could take over for Ryans eventually.

  • jabostick

    An older project who has “bloodlines” listed as a strength? We can do better with a high second pick.

  • BrickSquadMonopoly

    EJs our guy in RD 2. After watching that Gruden camp I know this kids got it in him to be great. Hes like a sponge.

    • Richard Colton

      you might need to trade up to the back end of round one/top of round #2. Hypothetical – would you take EJ if he cost you your 2nd and 3rd?

      • Token

        Man, that is a disaster scenario.

    • Geagle

      Would you rather have EJ Manuel or Kyle Long and Travis Kelce?

    • planetx1971

      DEFINETELY a sponge. One of the ones that’s been left in the sink way too long. Sloppy and really stinks. I’m no more interested in Manuel in the 2nd than I am in Genome Smith in the 1st. Please god no to both! GENO would be a crappy pick in the 2nd forget E.J. I don’t think in reality either has more than 3rd or 4th round talent.

  • trinieagle

    Like this kid Kyle Long, his most valuable asset is he has experience in Chip’s Tempo… This would help the OLine adapt much more easily to Chip’s teachings…this would be a good move.

  • GGeagle

    How would you feel being a Jags fan, drafting a punter last year the 3rd round? 5 spots later, Russel Wilson was taken. hahahaha I jst figured this out. Holy crap man that must suck

    • Richard Colton

      Must feel a lot like…being a Jags fan before they drafted a punter ahead of Russel Wilson. Terrible team, worse city.

      I was a huge Tony Boselli fan as a kid. In ’95 – they spent a top three pick on Boselli and traded for a backup QB with upside, Mark Brunell. If you think about it, it’s the same strategy Andy looks like he’s pursuing in KC. Story goes that Ray Rhodes wanted Mark Brunell – but the Jags got him instead. I always wonder what might have been if we had gotten Warren Sapp and Mark Brunell in ’95 instead of Mike Mamula and Dave Barr.

      • GGeagle

        hahaha yeah man, I always think about Sapp..never realized the Brunell angle..
        Just watched Florio interview Caldwell, the Jax GM…
        Florio: Looking at your background the first year you were in Indy, the colts drafted Peyton Manning #1..Your first year atlanta, they drafted Matt Ryan #3, what would make me think that you wont take a QB when you are splitting the difference sitting at #2? It was an ineteresting question that Caldwell basically laughed off.
        He basically said right now, they know who the #2 pick will be, only the owner khan, Gus Bradley, and himself know who the pick will be, but its someone that the entire organization will be happy with…I dont know what that means.
        Blaine’s former coach, Mike Mularky, he didnt exactly give a ringing endorsement of Blaine Gabbert going forward, when he talked to Florio
        The idiots better leave Fisher and Dion Alone! Neither player should have to go to CRAPville Florida! Leave Sharrif alone as well…Take Geno Smith, HE BELONGS IN JAXONVILLE!

        • Richard Colton

          If that happens, I’ll stand up and cheer on draft night, because it means either Fisher/Joeckal/Jordan become options for the Eagles.

          • GGeagle

            I will be soooo happy, relieved if Geno Smith is drafted by Jax…basically,the Eagles rumored infatuation with Geno, has made me want ever other prospect significantly more than I probably would have. Because of my worry about Geno, I cant even worry about who we draft…As long as it isnt Geno, I will stand up and cheer (I dont even worry about Millner anymore, thats how not worth the 4th pick I think he is…he is sooo over rated, thaat I cant possibly think our front office would consider him)

        • GGeagle

          Caldwell also said some other things, that are going to keep a Dion Fan such as myself up at night:
          1)What we do at #2, will shape what we do the rest of the draft..FOCK! There are OT’s later in the draft, there is Dline later in the draft, there are QB’s later in the draft…but I dont see anything comperable to Jordan after round 1…the closest are Mingo and Ziggy..
          2)He also admitted that LOOKING AHEAD to 2014 is VERY important. “He said when we did the Julio jones trade, it happened because we looked ahead at what was available in the next years draft class…Sounds like Jaxonville really believes in looking ahead(He had his scouts submit there report on the 2014 draft class on April 1st)…If ALL THE TEAMS, really put an emphasis on looking ahead to the following draft, I would be very worried if I were a QB in this draft class..
          These Jaxonville FOCKERS are really starting to worry me. They have 2 players targeted, and only 1 team picks ahead of them, so they will be getting theier guy, either way…man this worries me. I really hope someone trades up to number 2, because if that happens, odds are that a team did so to get one of the OT’s or maybe they want to ensure they get Geno. I really wish I wouldnt have watched all htese Jaxonville interviews this morning…gonna make these next 11 days extra nerve wrecking..
          Caldwell also said the Jones Dew wont be traded on draft day, and I believed him. Sounds like they will evaluate him this season so that they can decide whether to extend him or not….Man, we all like to Joke about Jaxonville, but I wont be surprised if they are finally on the right path. I like thier Owner, Thier GM was in Indy when they drafted Peyton and built that franchise from the ground up, and he was in ATlanta when they drafted Matt Ryan and started building up that program, so the man had a front row view of how its done..and I still really think that 5 years from now, we will be talking about Gus Bradley as a darn good NFL head coach..The next Mike Tomlin….Hopefully since they are on the right path, they do what good things do, and start in the trenches

          • Richard Colton

            Jacksonville has constraints that we don’t worry about. That’s the heart of college football/Nascar country. That new owner needs to worry about filling seats. Granted, he was smart enough to realize that Tebow would have been a step backwards – but who is the face of Jags Football? Blaine Gabbert? If there’s a position that justifies reaching a bit, it’s QB. The more I think about, the more I’m convinced Geno doesn’t make it past three.

          • GGeagle

            I really hope you are right….I cant even imagine life on that Friday if I have to wake up knowing that the Eagles drafted Geno. What a nightmare and terrible way to start this draft that we are all soooo looking forward to it

          • JofreyRice

            That’s what I believe. I really think Dopey Reid takes a tackle #1 overall, with the plan to play him on the right side, and then Jacksonville takes a QB. Gabbert is garbage, he hasn’t even flashed potential. Nick Foles or Mike Vick would be an upgrade for them, and they passed on Matt Flynn for a 5th rounder. They’re taking G. Smith.

          • mark_in_jax

            Guess you know you responded to your own post? (VERY SAD). Maybe “Richard Colton” could take his misdirected sorrow about me living in Jax as well as the $ he offered to buy me a beer and buy you a “friend” LOL!!! Sure that “Richard Colton” would be a great guide to the entertainment in the bustling “downtown” Philly area. If not, drive over the Whitman bridge and try “Jersey Girls” near Bobby Clarke’s old Mt Ephraim neighborhood. Just make sure you have the $5 to get back over the bridge. GO EAGLES!

          • GGeagle

            i read about the first 5 words of your post and came to the conclusion that ANYONE who comes on an EAGLES blog and gets butthurt about hearing another city with an NFL team get bad mouthed, is just an idiot! You think I would spend my time defending the city of Philadelphia’s honor if I was on a Jags blog?……..thanks for the valuable contributions you made to our FOOTBALL discussion. Much appreciated!

          • mark_in_jax

            At least this time you responded to someone else’s post instead of your own. Don’t need your approval to post on our Eagles blog. Sat in Franklin Field as a kid in 1960 and saw Ted Dean score the go ahead TD vs the giants (a rookie pitcher for the Phillies named Dallas Green sat directly behind me). Loud-mouthed empty-barrel “Angelo-wannabes” like you are the type of people that those of us who live in what you call “CRAPville Florida” don’t miss at all. The only thing better than sitting with a crowd of Eagles fans in a sports bar in Jacksonville is the comfort we get knowing that people like you aren’t sitting with us. E A G L E S EAGLES!!!

      • mark_in_jax

        “worse city”. Please do myself and my fellow transplanted Eagles fans in Jacksonville a favor and avoid relocating to our area. Thank you!

        • GGeagle

          WORST FOOTBALL CITY!!! Is that better? Feel better? Sell out a game first!

          • mark_in_jax

            As an Eagles season ticket holder when I lived there, I’m proud to see that our Eagles had 4160 more fans per home game than the Jags in 2012. Guess that’s partially due to transplanted Eagles fans like myself and my friends who go to sports bars on Sundays to watch our Eagles rather than buy tix to Jags games. http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance

        • Richard Colton

          It’s a deal Mark. I’d offer to apologize over a beer in your
          “city’s” downtown area or city center, except you don’t have one.
          Jacksonville has all the charm of Milwaukee and the humidity of Tallahassee. I’m genuinely sorry you live there.

          • theycallmerob

            hahahaha, the first (and only time) I was there, I was visiting a friend at UF. I remember getting real hammered and asking a cabbie to take me downtown, and he dropped me off at a Jimmie John’s

          • Richard Colton

            I’m amazed you didn’t wind up at a lonely mini-mall with an Olive Garden and a Chilis (or as they’re called in J-ville – fine dining)

          • mark_in_jax

            Guess you were “real hammered” if you took a cab from UF which is in Gainesville to Jacksonvile (75 miles away).

          • JofreyRice

            haha! You’re killing an entire metro area in a few sentences.

          • mark_in_jax

            No problem Richard. Only go “downtown” in Jax if on jury duty. Never used to go “downtown” in Philly either. Both are “toilets” but you are right that one of them is larger than the other. Don’t know much about Milwaukee. Do know that Tallahassee is the home of our state government and the ‘Noles. Since I’m a taxpayer and the father of a Gator alumnus, it’s not very high on my list. Thanks for your misdirected sorrow. Go Eagles!!!

    • Dominik

      “How would you feel being a Jags fan, drafting a punter last year the 3rd round? 5 spots later, Russel Wilson was taken.”

      Made my day, mate! :D

  • Yat

    No more old offensive linemen!

  • Frit

    How old is he? If he’s been through all that it sounds like another Danny Watkins…no thanks

    • Richard Colton

      He’ll be 25 during the 2013 season. Not exactly a Canadian Fireman, but it limits his upside. I like him at #35. Love him as a late #2, or our third round pick.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wsbaldwin Wesley SkiPper Baldwin

    I say draft the man …. He’s 6-6 315lbs …. Tackle or a Guard and knows chip and his tempo ….. If we trade down and pick up some picks he would b a steal in the second along with E J Manual