Eagles To Bring In Dion Jordan For Visit

Oregon defensive end/linebacker Dion Jordan will visit with the Eagles Wednesday and Thursday, according to Ian Rapoport.

Chip Kelly was asked at the owners meetings if he would have to use one of the allotted 30 visits on Jordan, given his familiarity with him.

“No. But there are some situations with certain guys that you wanna find out medical information on … if we were to bring Dion in, it would be to find out how his shoulder is, not what he is like as a person,” Kelly responded. “A lot of our evaluations are medical deals where you get some information on them.”

Jordan had surgery to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder on February 27. He told reporters at Oregon’s pro day that the rehab process could take 3-4 months, and that he is hoping to be ready for training camp.

“It will probably be a while before I’m able to actually do a lot with my upper body,” Jordan told PFT recently. “But the surgery went well, and every day I feel much better. It’s  a process, and I will just take care of myself so I won’t have to go through it again.”

Jordan estimated that he played half the 2012 season with the injury. You can definitely make the case that it impacted his final statistics. The 6-6, 240-pounder had five sacks on the year before leaving the game against Colorado on October 27 with an injured shoulder. He did not register another sack from that point on.

“It had a huge effect I felt like on my production,” he said. “It limited my playing time and it also limited my ability as far as practicing and doing individual work to improve myself.”

Jordan put off having surgery so he could perform at the Combine. He had a strong showing in Indianapolis that helped solidify his standing as one of the top prospects in this class.

Geno Smith was also in town Wednesday. For a full list of the Eagles’ visits, click here.

 

  • JofreyRice

    Not a big fan. H/W/S guy that can contribute to a team in a bunch of ways, but will be overdrafted based on his passrush “potential”. No getting around that his sacks came against weak sisters of the Oregon schedule. Reminds me of Aaron Curry.

    All that being said, Kelly & Azzinaro must have a different view. If they take him at 4, I gotta hope I’m just missing something.

    • G

      Ya I agree.. hopefully just missing something. I’d rather see OL be taken with the 4th, much greater need there. Even though the case can be made that eagles can still grab quality OL in second and third round…. but to pass up on Fisher would suck

      • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

        With this 3-4 trending, if Lane Johnson or Fisher are available I say take one, With 5 good Offensive Linemen, the Eagles can stone wall 5 man fronts like the 3-4 represents with Man on Man. That’s going to leave receivers in man coverage, we’ll need a blocking back and a reliable tight end or slot receiver with good hands in traffic.

        The easy way to beat 5 man fronts is going over the top. There is only a single safety over the top, one has to be committed to the running lane on the weak side of the offense.

    • Token

      Caplan tweeted that Jordan is the top rated rush OLB by making high ranking execs. There is no way on earth they can come to that conclusion based on tape of the guy. Or maybe, like you, im really not seeing something.

      He trys to beat his man upfield. Thats all hes got. I dont see him being successful with that in the NFL. Hes got no other moves.

      Next Aldon Smith? I dont see it.

      • JofreyRice

        Yeah, former Eagles & Ravens scout Daniel Jeremiah is crazy about him, too, whereas another former Eagles scout, Dan Shonka, of Ourlads, has him ranked as his 19th overall player. Lotta debate because so much projection is involved. If Kelly believes in this kid, after coaching him, makes him the #4 pick, and Dion busts, we’ll have bigger problems than just a wasted pick, anyway.

        • CJ

          Kelly’s a smart guy, he’s well aware of what the backlash would be like if he got his first draft pick, in the top 5 no less, from his own school, and the kid flops. I’m pretty confident that if Jordan’s the pick, he’s going to be a star. Kelly would have to be damn sure to pull the trigger on that pick, which is why if he does it at all, i’ll be ok with it. If he does it at 4, I’ll be reluctantly ok with it.

          I know what the mocks say (generally anywhere from 2-9), but a lot of those guys push speed up the board, even without numbers. I think most teams in the top 10 will be scared away by his overall numbers, or just have other–read: more pressing–needs where they go in another direction. If Jordan gets to 4, I don’t see the Browns, Bills, Jets, Cards, Lions, or Chargers taking him. Far too many needs in the secondary/all across those offenses to justify a projection LB on D for those teams.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            Well that begs the question, what will Kelly do with/about Casey Matthews. I’m not hearing no review or projections about our little problem there.

          • CJ

            how many LBs do you think this team will carry? 8 or 9 maybe? Then he’ll be the 8th or 9th LB, as a backup on the inside and ST contributor. My guess is he’ll make it by the skin of his teeth this year, and won’t be so lucky next.

          • GGeagle21

            While I cant really disagree with anything you just said…Dion can do so many different things on a football field, that its impossible for him not to become great at a few of them, so I cant really see how he would ever be a bust. NOTHING in life is a guarentee…so I will conceed that its theoretically(lol in my eyes) possible that he busts as a pass rusher…but if Bruce Irvin, Brandon Graham, Ziggy Ansah bust as a pass rusher, he is a total bust! If Dion busts as a pass rusher, there will still be ways to get good production out of him..I really dont see how he could ever not be able to help your defense, like a Mamula.

      • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

        I’m going to go review Caplan’s analysis from last year and review his picks performances. Sometimes you have to check the guys who do the checking and gauge that against what you see or have seen in some of these guys through college.

      • GGeagle21

        Lack of Moves, in my humble oppinion is the dumbest reason not to draft a kid…ANYONE CAN LEARN MOVES. Me and you, right now can learn moves. I can assure you that in 3 years the kid will have all the moves you can ask for….That doesnt mean he will become elite, I just think that shouldnt even come into consideration in drafting a player. Its not about what they have done…Its about using the intel to the best of your ability, trying to predict and project the player a kid grows into by the time he becomes a man

    • CJ

      I’m not as high on the guy as some, and I think they can get him lower than 4, but I wouldn’t be disappointed. Was he insanely productive? No. But there is something to be said for leadership, the production he did have while taking into account he’s new to a position, and that he played hurt for half the season.

      He’s projectable. Not something normally drafted in the top 5, but this isn’t a normal draft. What we can take solace in is that fact that no team in the NFL knows what this kid is capable of more than the Eagles, what with his former HC, position coach, and Tom Gamble (who scouted/visited the team often for SF), all with this team. I’m pretty confident that if they take him, he won’t bust. If they pass on him though, that would say A LOT.

      • ICDogg

        I don’t know that it would say A LOT (it might simply mean that they liked someone even better) but I mostly agree with what you say.

        • GGeagle21

          I actually do think that passing on him, says ALOT!! You dont pass up on a versatile player, with those physical traits, and that proven charecter who will buy into your scheme from day one, while you try and make the transition to the pro’s, especially since he plays a PREMIER position! OLB in this scheme, is basically the DE in a 4-3…you would give DE in the 4-3 the highest value possible at all times…so im not going to listen to people short change him and act like you are drafting a linebacker…If he is drafted at #4, its because we have a high degree of confidence that we are getting a kid who can be a premier pass rusher in this leage 3 years from now…If they dont have a high degree of confidence in developing him as a pass rusher, than they will pass on his cover ability, and schematic disguise that he provides…and if Tom Gamble tells me the kid can rush the passer, then Im full on board. If he doesnt see aldon smith, than I hope we do pass on him…how you like dem apples? lol JK

      • GGeagle21

        CJ…as much as I pound the table for Dion all day n night…VERY WELL SAID, and Im only talking this way leading up to the draft…What we actually do about him on draft day, will really tell me everything I need to know about him. PERFECTLY SAID: ” if they take him, he won’t bust. If they pass on him though, that would say A LOT”…those are my exact feelings…so if we pass on him, dont see me go on suicide watch or anything like that lol…but where we stand today, I dont believe we would pass on him…but I certainly could be wrong……I read today in terms of
        Bringing Geno and Dion in on the same day: Geno”smokescreen”..just merely checking in on Dions injury being the true target! Just the way I try n read between the lines lol

    • Tom W

      BIg Fan. He isn’t a W guy because he actually has to put on 20-30 lbs — but that will be easy because he is 6 7. He also didn’t bench at the combine so comparisons to a workout warrior are laughable.

      He is being drafted by the Jags or Eagles not as a pure “Von Miller” type pass rusher. The comparisons to Aldon Smith are nice but silly. Kelly and Bradley would be drafting him as a SAM , 3 down backer who could play 4 positions well, cover uber stud tes like Witten or Gronk, and spy RGIII. The NFL is changing. Scheme and versatility are really all defenses have left to fight the pro-offense penalties and rules. Jordan provides the ultimate scheme disguise – he can rush, contain, bump and run, cover te, rb, wr, spy qbs … take your pick .. he could stand up, in 3pt stance, play d end, olb, SAM, Predator and slot cover in a zone.

      I watched every one of his games in 2011 and 2012 before the labrum injury against Colorado. Please stop trying to dissect him based on the Stanford/USC 2012 games that occurred within 2 weeks of that injury. He couldn’t push w any of the same power with his shoulder. Watch his production and versatility before those games. He played contain and covered 2/3 of his snaps versus a Jarvis Jones who rushed on 75 percent of his snaps. When he did rush his first step, agility, and ability to bend around the corner against otackles was second to none. Barely anyone uses a bullrush anymore, but secondary passrush moves can be taught. 6 7 athletic freaks who can cover gronk, spy rgIII, and chase down Sjax can’t. And give me 10 sacks a yr.

      He was a 2d round prospect in 2011. top 12 in 2012 before the combine. his combine didn’t bump him up — the lack of combines by Jarvis Jones and Star, and poor showings by Damontre Moore and Woerner helped him more. He didn’t even bench at the combine so stop w idiotic combine warrior nonsense. He was a 2d round prospect as a junior without ever running a 40 for a nfl scout.

      Finally, sack production in college is actually a poor indicator of sack potential in the nfl. Check out dan jeremiah’s article on nfl.com. Matthews, Smith, JPP, Wake — none of them put up big sack totals their last yr in college. So stop w that stale argument.

      And I like Fisher and Johnson, but we can get a starting otackle in the 2d or 3d rds … look at the pick stats on eaglesrewind.com. Otackle is an easy position to hit on. Guys like Dion Jordan don’t exist, let alone in this draft. Gotta have him or trade down

      • JofreyRice

        eh, I subscribe to the philosophy that you draft a LB in the top 5 he has to be able to rush the passer at an extremely high level–his calling card can’t be covering TE’s or playing contain on an athletic QB.

        Dion’s not a finished product as a passrusher. Even the rosiest projections of him acknowledge that, so I can’t agree that he’s got mastery of bending and ripping the edge and beating quality LTs to get to QBs. I have to agree with folks that see a pure speed rush that gets pushed past the pocket, so far; much like Connor Barwin. The guys sacks came against the worst teams on the schedule. What are you talking about “barely anyone uses a bullrush anymore”? That’s just false. Maybe you’re spending too much time re-watching Dion Jordan games and reading Dan Jeremiah articles, but bullrushes are still widely used by edge rushers everywhere; it’s a fundamental passrush move that’s unlikely to change anytime soon. It’s like saying “Barely anyone throws the ball with their arm anymore”. Just a ridiculous statement.

        Aaron Curry was a guy that was supposed to be a “do-it-all” athletic, tall, linebacker coming out of Wake Forest. Turns out that he never really developed as a passrusher the way he was supposed to. He’s not a horrible player–he contributes, but he’s never lived up to his draft status, because he didn’t follow the projection some had set out for him, based on his athletic upside.

        I actually agree that you don’t have to have a guy with great sack production in college, but you have to observe the traits to succeed at the NFL level. He has the athletic talent, obviously, but I haven’t seen the kind of violence and ability to shed blocks or counter from Dion that some have. You seem to attributing a whole bunch of arguments to me that I haven’t actually made.

        • ICDogg

          I’m with you there

        • GGeagle21

          from 9/1/12-10/18/12(the last complete game Dion played before tearing his shoulder: Dion Jordan had 5 sacks, the biggest playmaker in College, Mr Jarvis Jones had 5.5 sacks at that point…yet Dion was not on a stacked defense that Jarvis was on(easier to gameplan Dion out of the game), Dion certainly doesnt get all the coverage sacks, and teamates chasing QB’s into his arms that Jarvis got…TODAY, I would already rather have Dion rush against NFL lineman that Jarvis…3 years from now, it wont even be comparable

          • JofreyRice

            Come on man, the sacks were against the Washington State Wimps, Tennessee Tech Toilets, Arizona State Assholes, and the Fresno State F!@#$ups. Trying to convince me that Dion Jordan was productive passrusher in school just isn’t going to do it for me.

            I never made the Jarvis Jones comp. I’m not real high on a guy with that many injury questions, either, quite frankly. Injuries and everything else aside, for passrushers in this class, I like Tank Carradine way better than Dion or Jarvis. After that I like Keke Mingo. I think Datone Jones is very underrated, as well, but he’s really a pure 4-3 guy in the mold of Justin Tuck, or Darren Howard, IMO, and needs to go to a JJ-disciple D where they’ll let him rush from the 3 tech in passrush packages.

            You could be right that Dion develops as a passrusher 5 years down the line. I’m just giving you my opinion on the matter.

          • GGeagle21

            2years down the line!!! Im not waiting 5 years for anyone lol…they get 3 tops! I didnt get my mamma 5 years to prove herself lol

          • Richard Colton

            where can I buy some Fresno State F@#kups gear?

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            Fresno State, Arkansas State, Washington State, University of Washington, Arizona, Arizona State and lets not forget Tennessee State.

            That’s not Big 12, or SEC competition he racked up 5.5 Sacks against at full strength. His best damage was done against Washer and Dryer Salesmen

        • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

          Any Eagles fan only has to remember Reggie White’s Bull Rush to have the proper respect for the move.

          • GW.Fisher

            Absolutely.

      • Token

        No one uses the bull rush? What?

        Even aside from that, he has no inside move at all. Maybe he can learn one. But the run around the tackle move doesnt usually work to well in the NFL. Teams know what you can and cant do. They will just push you past the pocket.

        This kid also needs to put on size and strength Ive seen tackles that shouldnt be containing him, get their hands on him and handle him with ease. And you cant assume a guy can easily put on size just because of their frame. You were very concerned about Jarvis Jones size at 6’2 245 but not about Jordan at 6’6 and the same weight?

        And ive seen your argument before that he is going to step in and shut down tight ends? Where does that expectation come from? He rarely ever plays quality tight ends in college. He played Ertz last year and he went for 11 catches 106 yrds and a TD.

        • GGeagle21

          How the hell can you list putting on weight as a concern when he already gained 10lbs since College, and still set the combine on fire?..This kid just turned 23 years old(like 2 weeks ago)…ages 24-25 is when you really start to fill out and your grown man strength kicks in…who the hell cares about whether he is a finished product or not? You want the guy who will go to the most probowls, and have a positive impact on the culture of your locker room….I wouldnt bet against that Kid! He is the same exact size Jason Taylor was this time entering his rookie season, except he has twice the speed that JT had….Hearing people talk him down is frustrating…Fortunately I get to know that my coaches dont talk him down..Like are you people really going to booo when we draft him? lol

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            JPP bulked up for 2013 and loss better than 10 sacks, now he’s described as DISAPPOINTING.

            I would bet, no matter who drafts this kid, He’s not touching a NFL Quarterback. I watched him against LSU in 2011, no injury and nothing. Bottom line, against Big Boy Competition this kid doesn’t come close to being a first round pick. I don’t know what he did against teams like Fresno State, but on the big stage where the competition is faster, bigger and more intense…….. he’s no factor in fact, it looks to me as if teams purposely sought him out and ran straight at him.

            I”m not saying he’s not a nice kid, He reminds me of Casey Matthews being hung up on a guard like he was a neck tie…..

            A Bull rush isn’t necessary in a game of flag or touch football, in the NFL a Bull Rush sets an effective pass rusher apart from all the others, it’s just as fundamental as Santa is to Christmas.

          • southy

            He’s not the most polished pass rusher coming out of the draft. Far from it. If we wanted a pass rushing OLB to add to our stable of Graham, Cole, Curry, Barwin, we’d draft Ziggy Ansah.

            But Ziggy doesn’t have the versatility this kid has. Dion is about so much more than sacking the qb. As has been pointed out, he can play contain, he can chase run plays down from behind, he can spy, he can cover a TE, hell, he can drop back into a deep zone like a SS.

            To have this kind of physical skill set and play with the discipline and awareness that he plays with after only being on the D side of the ball for 2 years, is just special. I won’t cry if we don’t draft him (we have plenty of needs on this team) but whoever gets him is going to make their entire D better if they use him right.

          • Phils Goodman

            Ansah is even less polished and experienced as a pass-rusher than Jordan.

          • GGeagle21

            very well said..I will plead for this kid every team the draft is mentioned..but we have so many needs, that I cant be mad if we take someone else..I just cant possibly believe that we would actually pass on him…When the pick is announced, I will be absolutely thrilled as long as it isnt Geno or Millner..I can live with Geno because of my belief in chip…But I will spazz out if they take Millner(not that I believe its a real possibility)
            Funny that Mike Mayock thinks the Geno basher is credible, and kind of agree’s with him!

          • Token

            Too me it sounds like you guys are making a better case for drafting a stud safety rather than a OLB.

            You have deluded yourself into thinking this kid is some do it all superman prospect. Ive watched games against bad teams. I just dont see this guy popping off the screen like people tell me he does.

          • southy

            Perhaps we just value versatility more than you do, and see that this guy adds something to our D that no one else brings. He might not take the NFL by storm and put up headlining numbers (at least from where I’m sitting now) but he will be good in a lot of the little things that stats don’t capture but make the entire D better overall.

            I can’t say he’s head and shoulders above the other prospects at #4. Ansah really jumps off the tape [though who wouldn't against Idaho?]. Joeckel, Fisher, and Johnson are all guys that could shore up our line for years to come. Geno… well… I dunno. But I think Dion has an incredibly high ceiling and offers a mix that few if any other players in the draft can offer. CK knows better than all of us whether that’s worth a #4 pick.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            A No.4 pick is supposed to be a bruiser and playmaker. Not a utility man. There are not supposed to be any questions on what he brings when he gets off the bus.

            That can’t be said about Dion Jordan. That is the primary mystery in drafting a Quarterback, how will he perform under the bright lights.

          • GGeagle21

            Even if he busts as a pass rusher, he will never be a waste of a pick..There is so much he can do for your team. He will be a player that contributes to a winning team in alot of ways…The pass rushing is literally the only question his non believers can point to…and I honestly dont see how its possible that a kid with that charecter/drive/desire to be great can not turn that type of fREAK physical ability into an elite pass rusher. I am a firm believer that you ONLY BUST because of Charecter. Everyone drafted in the first two rounds will be physically capable..The ones who arent wired the right way, will bust!
            Dion is a winner at life….Why wouldnt I be confident about him on the field?
            Just think of the future Lebron James of defensive football. A guy who can transcend positions and do it all! Hopefully he does it in eagles green!

          • Richard Colton

            Banks just released latest mock. Spoiler – you’re going to hate it.

            http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130403/nfl-mock-draft-4/?sct=hp_t11_a5&eref=sihp

          • GGeagle21

            no worries…I have never cared about mocks….I think there is usually a big difference between how mockers viw the draft, and how nfl FO people view it…I take them all with a grain of salt, and look at them to see different scenarios

          • GGeagle21

            Dion’s potential:
            Pass Rush
            Contain
            Pursuit
            Spying RG3
            Pairing with Kendricks for elite Nickle LB speed
            Slow Down TE’s who are starting to take over the NFL
            Provide your DC with the most schematic disguise as possible
            Think you wont see him lineup on offense if Chip drafts him?
            Is it possible for him to bust at everything? I dont see how!
            There is so much he can do, he is such a hardworking winner…I dont see how its possible that worst case scenario he still doesnt find a way to help your team win….and we cant always say this about a prospect. His coverage ability, and versatility is a heckuva safety net for the team that drafts him.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            The Eagles primary problem was not putting pressure on the Quarterback, that was key among the problems with the cornerbacks.

            It’s not realistic to expect a linebacker to cover beyond their zone responsibility

            What do you believe initiated the Dime and Nickel Packages on Defense?

            Think back to Brian Westbrook and linebackers trying to cover him out of the backfield. But the basic point of the matter is Jordan gets hung up on Tackles he’s supposed to blow away with ease.

          • Phils Goodman

            Check out the quality of competition:

          • Token

            Good pass rushers use the bull rush to set up other things. This kid doesnt have that. Doesnt have a inside move. Hes just gonna get pushed past the pocket in the NFL. I dont even think he uses his hands that well.

            Its possible he may learn all these things. But its asking a lot. Too many skills to still learn for a OLB prospect getting drafted this high. I dont even buy into this notion that he will somehow step in and lock down the Graham and Gronks of the NFL. Who has he shut down in college that makes a person think he can cover at that level?

            Aldon Smith was a much more natural pass rusher coming out.

          • GGeagle21

            JPP is disapointing due to charecter, and the adjustment period that every successful young player has to go thru, learning to deal with the extra attention, he gets from the opposing team..Its the Natural progession, he will be back to terrorizing the league in NO TIME(assuming he loves the game and wants to be great)

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            Really, well it wasn’t for Von Miller or Aldon Smith. JPP’s coach, and I think it was the bulk he put on between the first and last season. He is describes as disappointing because of the drastic drop in production. I’m not going to be surprised if he never achieves the production he had his first year in the league.

            On another note, I’m not a big character guy. I want someone who comes in and is smart about kicking the hell out of the other guy. I am the kind of guy that loved Conrad Dobler, anything goes in the trenches. If the refs didn’t see it, it was legal and fair. I was against taking the head slap out of football.

          • JofreyRice

            I always find it a bit weird that you & other folks take it so personally and get frustrated if people don’t share your opinion of certain players. None of these guys care about you, or your support for them, and as a fan, you have no real need to be “right” about any of this.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            That’s just the spirit of Phila sports debate…… there’s not many places where the debate is as live and respectful as the debate of opinions there. This is a pretty unique site and it’s owed to those of you who participate.

          • GGeagle21

            you think I give a crap about Dion Jordan? I care about what DION JoRDAN can do for us! You think I care if Im right or wrong about the kid? I care if Im right, ONLY if we draft him…If we pass on him, I hope he is a Collossal BUST and makes me like the biggest idiot in the world…I can happily live with that. But to have a strong belief that he will terrorize the NFL in 3 years, and see us pass on him, only to go on and become a monster for the the Browns,Jets or Dolphins…THAT WOULD HURT!!

      • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

        He didn’t do any better against LSU in 2011, When it comes down to top tier competition he’s hasn’t shown himself to be a difference maker on the level you would expect from a pick who is projected to go in the top 10.

        Top 10 Linebacker racks and stacks in the likes of Luke Kuechly and has the numbers and tape showing his value before going off the board in the top 10 pick. He doesn’t come with excuses, Von Miller didn’t. Von Miller and Aldon Smith, in college were violent, disruptive and fast closing linebackers who were threats at every point the ball was snapped, more on the scale of Jarvis Jones except Jones isn’t as fast as either but he is as disruptive and it comes through on tape.

        I just don’t see that production on tape over 2 years against stellar competition in college from Jordan, and I’m impressed with his form when he drops back, but can’t see where it’s been effective against good passing attacks.

        • Tom W

          I watched the lsu game … he played fine …he only got a couple legit shots to rush the qb …. lsu basically ran the ball the entire game much like stanford in 2012 to keep Chip’s offense off the field. I watched over a dozen of his games (some are at the bottom of this post) and not just 2 after his injury. His speed, length, closing ability, bend around the edge, and long stride jumps off the film. You can teach secondary pass rush moves .. he can add 10-20 lbs on a 6 6 frame for god sake … You can’t teach that type of athletic versatility that he has. Yes I admit in a stacked draft he probably goes somewhere between 8-12, but this is a weak draft. o well.

          You can get otackles in the 2d or 3d round and good starters too … you can get a 5 tech de like Tank in the 2d. you can get starting nfl corners in the 2d-4th in this draft … Ansah is even rawer than Jordan. Personally, I would ideally like to trade down and still get a Star or Lane Johnson … but Johnson probably doesnt get farther than 7 and Star 14. There is no one like Jordan in this draft.

          And I dont understand why you can’t comprehend him covering tes in man in nickel or dime or heck even 2d and 10s … carlos emmons did it and was successful. Julian Peterson did it well. Both have the height like Dion as well. Plus his te skills are easily recognizable in coverage.

          Clay Matthews, Aldon Smith, Cameron Wake, JPP — none of those guys had big sack totals their final years in college.

          • ggeagle21

            very nice post Tom

  • CJ

    In totally unrelated news, somewhere in the region, GGeagle has a hard-on :D

    • Richard Colton

      GGeagle’s head exploded when he saw the headline. But seriously, watching the highlights of Jordan and the tape, I wouldn’t be upset if we took Jordan at #4. He’s not a reach – haven’t seen him past 9 in any recent mock of note. He brings a load to the QB. When’s the last time we had a guy that big and fast?

      • cliff henny

        and, he can cover the tight end. seriously, the next time we cover jason witten will be the first! want to improve our secondary, how about not giving up 80-100 and 2 tds to every above average TE we play against.

        • GGeagle21

          Preach brother…People talk that dumb lack of production crap. He had 5 sacks up until October 27th, got hurt and didnt have another sack…How can his lack of stats even be brought up? who in the world, just beasts double teams and gets passed 300lb animals with 1 arm? I mean, to hold that against the kid, is a MISTAKE….if you dont want the kid, please dont let it be because of that!~

        • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

          Most linebackers cover in the NFL, although it’s pretty much limited to 10- 15 yards in a zone. And 15 is stretching the coverage. If a QB has time, linebackers are burn victims in coverage.
          Remember Tom Brady picking through Jeremiah Trotter in the super bowl? When they identified him in coverage they destroyed him and the Eagles.

          • cliff henny

            well, we’ve not had one that can cover 10-15 feet in the last 8 yrs. with TEs becoming basically big slot recrs, better adjust. the point is, this kid isnt just sacks, he able to play multiple positons. wasnt asked to play like j jones or ziggy, so he wont have sack numbers.
            and sure you’ve watched as many eagles v cowboy games as i have over 10 yrs. arent you a bit sick of 3rd and 4 witten runs 5 turns around and there isnt anyone within 5 yards of him? was a pretty constant theme with washington too. cooley went to pro bowls with games he had against us

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            That’s why the Tight Ends today with Witten’s kind of reliability is covered in the route by an extra Corner Back or Safety.There is not a linebacker capable of staying with Tight Ends like Witten beyond the responsibility of their zone, if it’s seen he’s trying to cover Witten man on man, Romo and Witten are going to have a field day. There is no reason to go any where else. Imagine a linebacker covering Dallas Clark 15 yds down field, or Tony Gonzalas.

          • cliff henny

            i’d like to imagine and see anyone cover at TE, period. could put up with alot by reid’s teams, but every week seemed TEs were having career weeks. jordan would definitely help. but, you dont take him at 4 just for that. freak atlete that can run down plays, be spy on qb-rg3 wont out-run him by much, and line up anywhere on defense. think he’d be a huge fan favorite, quickly. healthy, kid is a handful. wont be mad if they take ziggy or OTs. just alot to like about this kid

      • CJ

        Mike Mamula? I’m kidding, I promise.

        That last paragraph a couple posts up was actualyl for you. I know mocks have him 2-9, but other than Jax, Oak, and Phi, I don’t see anyone there that would take a project-able LB before 10. Way too many needs elsewhere to even consider it. And for a pash rusher, the better scheme fit for most teams would be Ansah anyway as your 4-3DE or Rush LB in the 3-4. Eagles would presumably want Jordan as the SAM, which generally isn’t drafted as high.

        • Richard Colton

          I’m seeing a lot of mock-love for Dion at #6 to Cleveland, especially if Milliner goes top 5. Too much raw talent. If you’re considering drafting Jarvis Jones with a top 20 pick, I think you’re praying for Dion to fall.
          Of the following potential top 5 guys: Geno, Fisher, Joeckal, Dion, Star, the only one I see dropping past 10 is Star.

          • CJ

            Banner? Drafting LB in the top 10? This is a joke, right?

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            I’m finding that difficult for banner after passing on some of the linebackers he managed to skip over when he was here with the Eagles to have seen the light and pick a linebacker.

          • GGeagle21

            yo…how was I impersonated? I didnt write this? not cool

          • CJ

            didn’t write what?

          • GGeagle21

            not cool dude.. No problem, I will just post 300 times a day, never using the same name.

          • CJ

            not sure what I said or did other than suggest that you would be, um, excited at this development. harmless fun since everyone knows you’re a huge fan of Dion’s. If that bothered you in any way, I’m truly sorry. That wasn’t my intent at all.

          • GGeagle21

            no…I didnt have a problem with what you wrote…someone else posted under the name GGeagle21

          • UKEagle99

            I know how you feel, I didn’t write this.

          • Richard Colton

            Well for what it’s worth, 4 of the 8 “head writers” at CBS have had Cleveland taking Jordan. If you’re running a traditional 4-3 like Philly under Reid/Banner you can make an excuse for devaluing linebackers. I think in the 3-4, OLB becomes a premium position. Now if he goes Kenny Vaccaro at six, I’m marching on Cleveland with pitchforks and torches.

        • ICDogg

          Yeah… I think he may drop a little for that reason.

          • GGeagle21

            LB’s are totally different creatures in a scheme that the browns are playing compared to how we used LB’s during banners tenure. You cant devalue lb’s with Ray Horton as the DC, or you will have no shot at success

          • CJ

            They’re the Cleveland Browns, and they’re led by Joe Banner, they already have no shot at success….

  • ICDogg

    Love the guy, but want Ziggy more.

    • nicksaenz1

      same here, already has the size, ran the 40 in a whole .06 seconds slower than Jordan, and is just as raw.

      • ICDogg

        More raw, actually, but also more explosive and more violent.

        • GGeagle21

          True, but Im not crazy about making him a 5tec…If they want to start clearing house, trade away Graham and Cole, I WOULD LOVE to have Ziggy at Predator. I would never mention Dion again, if Ziggy was our predator…but if we are going to use him as a 5tec? I see Dion as so much more valuable…WE can get a 5tec like Ziggy in rd 2, maybe a Tank Carradine…another Dion doesnt exsist. Especially if we are going to play a 4-3Under…I mean, he is tailor made to play that position, and could possibly become the best SAM that scheme has ever seen. Dion’s Ceiling is thru the roof! Scared money dont make money…we are 4-12, LETS SWING FOR THE FENCES and try and get something special, who at worst, will still find valuable ways to help our team win.

          • nicksaenz1

            When I said that I meant to use Ziggy as a SAM. I’d have a hard time believing he can’t cover. And if he can’t, he still has a skill set and body type to move around.

  • Capt. Undapants

    Brace yourselves… GGeagles is about to have a field day.

    • cliff henny

      he’s probably online checking jordan’s flight number, going to be at gate as personal welcoming committee

      • GGeagle21

        I applied to be his fluffer, but they declined, and said something about me being a creep lmao…WTF, all I did was ask if I could watch him sleep! Not like I wanted to change the mans socks or anything like that!

  • Sensei

    The I told you so arguments about his career will be epic I’m actually looking forward to them whichever way he turns out

  • Sensei

    I’m also 50% sure Dion himself is posing as some of the people on this board

  • jaran riley

    God, i really hope Jordan is our guy.