Eagles Get a Visit From Geno Smith

West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith is in town for an official visit with the Eagles, according to Albert Breer of NFL Network.

The 6-foot-2, 218-pound signal-caller spent yesterday with the Kansas City Chiefs and has been at the center of draft conversation the past couple of days. A Pro Football Weekly report earlier this week slammed Smith for his work ethic, among other things. As Tim noted this morning, Smith stood up for himself, calling the labels “untrue.”

Others refuted the claims as well:

 

 

As we mentioned yesterday, character and leadership are especially important with quarterbacks. That’s part of the reason why Jeffrey Lurie accompanied Howie Roseman and Chip Kelly on a trip to Morgantown last month to work Smith out. Official draft visits are different from prospect workouts. Smith will not do any on-field work for the Eagles today. Activities will include interviews and medical checks.

It’s also important to remember that this process isn’t just about who the Eagles are going to take with the No. 4 pick. What if Smith slides far past where most are projecting? What if things don’t work out for him with another team and he becomes available a few years from now?

That’s what this time of year is for in the NFL: extensive research on college prospects that can help you come draft time, or down the road.

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  • UKEagle99

    Looks like a good time for Nolan Nawrocki to back up his comments or issue an apology.

    • Richard Colton

      Or risk being labeled a total hack. Difference between 1st overall pick and bottom of round one is millions of dollars. If Geno can get someone from KC or Jax to testify that he wasn’t the pick because of Nawrocki, he’s got a libel case.

      • ICDogg

        If anyone admitted that they let this guy influence their pick, they would never have a job again. (And that would be justified).

        • Richard Colton

          Well who would admit that? If you were a GM, wouldn’t you be curious? WVU knows what it it has to say to get the kid drafted high. Having a former QB go #1 is great for recruiting/fundraising. 21st century agents prep their guys to say all the right things in interviews. You can hide who you are for 30 minutes and your team will lie for you. is that what informed all of the positive analysis of his intangibles? If it’s me, I’d want to know.

          • ICDogg

            And because you’d want to know, and because the decision is so critical, you’d make sure that it was thoroughly investigated. You wouldn’t leave it in the hands of a hack reporter.

    • Joe Jones

      Unfortunately, an apology or retraction will never happen. Its his opinion. It might be wrong or baseless, but its his opinion and of course if pressed, he could cite, “numerous sources” that he unfortunately must protect by not naming.

      Some idiot in the other thread kept repeating, “he was right about Newton,” “show me something where he was wrong about Newton.” Well, again, that shows a lack of fundamental understanding between fact and opinion. Disingenuous smile? That cant be proven. Its a subjective judgement or an opinion. Lacks leadership? Again, subjective judgement, not really quantifiable….you can have an opinion but so what? Does Nolan Nowracki’s opinion carry more weight just because he writes for some blog? Prior to this article, every knowledgeable draft expert raved about Smith’s work ethic and intangibles, yet one guy goes to the other extreme and he’s credible because, “he was right about Newton?” Makes no sense!!!!

      People will dispute quantifiable facts by judging their relevance or offering circumstantial explanations. To Philadelphia fans, Kevin Kolb was the next great thing despite his alarming turnover ratio……”oh, he’s young, give him a chance,” or my favorite, “he didnt have a chance to work with the ones during practice…..” Well, after being handed the starting job in AZ, he turned the ball over like crazy and couldnt stay healthy, but some will say, “he didnt have an offensive line, not his fault.” I’ve heard similar things said of Nick Foles…..am I saying Foles and Kolb are the same guy? Nope, different sample sizes and circumstances. Just saying that often people will conveniently overlook statistics or tangible evidence when it suits their position.

      The good news is NFL front offices have greater insight into the truth regarding Smith. Personally, I dont want Smith at 4. I want an impact defender. And a tackle in the 2nd round, Justin Pugh, Kyle Long or Terren Armstead or whoever Chip decides is the best fit. Draft in 22 days…cant wait. Go Birds

      • Richard Colton

        Well thankfully that isn’t the way successful GMs view the process. There are 32 teams that think subjective analysis of a QB is important. If you meant leadership, character, and intelligence are difficult to quantify, then I’m with you. Just look at the scattershot results when it comes to Wonderlic or Myers-Briggs. But if you’re saying that measurables are the only thing that matters – enjoy your team of Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell and Mike Mamula. Give me the QB who can make all the throws and reads with great leadership ahead of the athletic freak who can throw the ball 70 yds. I’m glad Laurie & Howie met with the kid face-to-face IF they are considering him.
        and yea – if it’s Jordan in round one and Armistead in two – I’ll be pretty happy with that.

        • Joe Jones

          Did I say intangibles don’t matter? I was talking about the difference between fact and opinion. And how when it comes to subjective criteria, there are very few facts, just opinions based on data and inputs.

          I think I said something about “disingenuous smiles” being a critique. And impossible to quantify, yet, some other poster kept saying “Nowracki was right about Newton.” I didnt say anything about character or intelligence. I didnt say anything about wanting athletic freaks.

          And yeah, Jordan and Armstead work for me.

          • Richard Colton

            Then I’m with you. If I’m Howie & Chip and I’m considering Geno (like Jeofry I don’t think they are), Im having an off the record conversation with Nowrocki asking him to back up his story with proof. The choice is too important to get wrong, and I’m not only going to listen to opinions with which I agree.

          • Joe Jones

            totally agree….

  • Eagle74

    Nawrocki has a rocky history with black quarterbacks. I’m not saying he is a racist, but if the shoe fits…

    • cliff henny

      he’s a hack reporter that race baits, which is even worse to me. at least a straight out racist most of us would see him for what he is. but these 2 bit hack race baiters get otherwise decent people going on a topic that’s pretty much a rabbit’s hole.

  • GW.Fisher

    Ah, never mind that to become a coach at the collegiate level you would have had to spend years paying your dues and impressing all the right people of any race in order to make the cut to that level. Never mind that in today’s society even a sniff of a potential race story goes viral as “fact” and there’s not anything like that surroundding this guy. Because this coach has never developed a “black” QB then he’s obviously a racist. OK, then…

    Geno Smith in Rd 2, butt not gonna happen. At #4 Erik Fisher’s the man.

    • Richard Colton

      you can buy your jersey now and not sweat it.

  • JofreyRice

    More subterfuge, or actual interest? From what I understand, these visits are the “most serious” form of prospect interest, since each team is limited to only 30. I’m still putting my bottom dollar that Geno will be throwing balls to Blackmon and Shorts next year, but what if the Eagles actually traded UP to get Smith? I like Smith, but I can’t say I’d be too “upbeat” about that scenario.

    • Richard Colton

      If you blew me away with an offer for 7, 8, or 9 (assuming teams with those picks don’t view Palmer, Kolb, Tebow as long term answers at QB) I’d do it. I wouldn’t drop any farther than that. But yeah – hard to see them going QB in round one.

    • Phils Goodman

      They probably gave Geno a bit of playbook to learn in Morgantown, and now they want to see how much of it he retained.

  • Robin Wallace

    I predict he never gets past Oakland #3 pick. They just traded Carson Palmer to the Cards.

    • eaglesfan93

      They traded for Matt Flynn

    • MAC

      Matt Flynn trade takes Oakland out of running. I think Jacksonville takes him though, so he probably is not there at #4 IMO.

  • southy

    Seeing as his opinions are unverifiable and directly contradicted by several trusted sources, can’t we just ignore this guy and move on?

  • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

    These talking heads on their blogs are all about clicks and page views. Whether he’s right or wrong about Geno he’s created enough buzz to get everyone talking about his name on everyones tongues. How do you think guys like Skip Bayless get so famous? They talk so much BS that everyone can’t look away.

    Nawrocki is getting what he wanted by making these claims.

  • Beavis

    What happened to the Nassib chatter? Draft stock slipping? Possibility for Nassib or Manuel in second round?

    • Richard Colton

      think he gets by Buffalo? and if he does, what does that say about him?

  • ICDogg

    Put yourself in the position of a newly hired coach who has to tear apart and reassemble a team.

    The first thing every coach is going to consider is the quarterback position. No matter how bad a franchise is, with the right quarterback, the team is going to be a lot further along. Look how quick Indy and Washington turned around last year. Consider how bad Green Bay would be without Aaron Rogers.

    Having the right QB is the fastest and most efficient way to turn around a squad. That is why Washington was willing to pay so much to trade up last season.

    So if you’re in a position to take the best QB in the draft, or anticipate that you might be, you have to consider it very seriously. Whether you take him or not, the future of your organization depends on whether you made the right choice. If you take him and he is not that guy you were hoping for, it will cost dearly for years to come. If you fail to take him and he sets the world on fire with another squad, you probably won’t have such an opportunity anytime soon unless the team falls apart (in which case you will no longer be the coach).

    So regardless of what the fans and the media are saying, you *have* to make the right call on this one.

  • knighn

    The Philadelphia Eagles have to take a good, long look at Geno Smith. They basically don’t have a choice. Why? Simply:
    – There’s a chance that Smith falls and the Eagles are trying to come up with the value that they’re willing to spend for him (early 1st? mid 1st? late 1st? 2nd?) especially if the Eagles trade down.
    – As the #1 QB prospect in the 2013 draft there is a chance that Smith turns into pro-bowl level Franchise QB. I’m not saying that there’s a good chance, just that there’s a chance. If Geno Smith goes to another team, the Eagles have to be able to say to themselves: “We took a long look and didn’t see any indication that he would become this player.”
    – The Eagles don’t pick as early as #4 very often, and it may be a while before they do again. If the Eagles have begun to see Smith as a likely pro-bowl level Franchise QB, they almost have to take him.