What They’re Saying About the Eagles

Philadelphia Eagles cornerback Nnamdi AsomughaHere’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles this week.

Khaled Elsayed ranks Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie as his No. 48 free agent in this ESPN.com article:

Much like Talib, Rodgers-Cromartie has all the talent in the world. Yet all too frequently we see the negative aspects of his game. This year looked to be different with him making a fine start, but much like his time in Arizona, he seemed to lose interest and his performance fell off a cliff. He represents a big gamble on big talent.

Steve Muench of ESPN.com thinks the Eagles might have to wait for the 2014 draft to find a quarterback:

Problem is, the 2013 class is weak, with no one in the top 10 built to run Kelly’s system. West Virginia’s Geno Smith, NC State’s Mike Glennon and Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson are pocket passers. There isn’t an intriguing sleeper further down the board either, so the Eagles are best served waiting to fill this need and keeping an eye on 2014 prospect Tajh Boyd (Clemson). Yes, it’s early to talk about next year’s draft class, but Boyd’s athleticism and quick release are too intriguing not to mention.

SI.com’s Don Banks has a 2012 re-draft out. In it, Fletcher Cox goes No. 11 to the Chiefs, leaving the Eagles with linebacker Lavonte David:

The Eagles need play-makers in their defensive front seven, and David proved to be a second-round find for Tampa Bay. His 139 tackles led the Bucs, and he had 19 tackles for loss, with two sacks, one interception and five passes defensed. Taken 12 spots after Cal outside linebacker Mychal Kendricks by the Eagles in the second round, David out-performed Kendricks on the weak side.

In a separate piece, Banks writes that the Eagles must figure out what to do with Nnamdi Asomugha:

If the Eagles don’t opt to release Asomugha, who still has three seasons left on the five-year, $60-million free-agent deal he signed in 2011, they have to make the task of rebuilding his confidence job one one for new defensive coordinator Billy Davis. Asomugha will have to agree to a significant pay cut to remain on the roster, but perhaps he’ll be eager to stay and take part in Philly’s fresh start, believing that the Kelly era will help him regain what once were shutdown corner skills.

In his latest mock draft for NFL.com, Josh Norris has the Eagles taking Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel:

Obviously, if Chip Kelly has full confidence that Jason Peters will return to form, this pick might not happen. Joeckel showed a few rough edges against Florida, but he fits the style of offense Kelly ran at Oregon — if that is indeed the direction he intends to go.

Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com projects Utah’s Star Lotulelei to the Birds:

The Eagles are focused on getting bigger on defense as they adjust their scheme with a new coaching staff. Lotulelei would form an excellent tandem with last year’s first-round pick, Fletcher Cox.

Rob Rang of CBSSports.com also has the Eagles taking Lotulelei:

When Chip Kelly’s offense struggled at Oregon it was usually due to the presence of a dominant interior defensive lineman (as in former Auburn standout Nick Fairley in the 2010-11 BCS Championship Game). As such, expect Kelly to push for a premium defensive tackle if in position to land one. Adding the versatile Lotulelei would give the Eagles a fearsome duo inside, considering the investment made a year ago in Fletcher Cox.

ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. has the Eagles taking Alabama cornerback Dee Milliner:

I noted in the previous mock that on a per-play basis, rookie Brandon Boykin might have been the best player in the Eagles secondary toward the end of the season. The Eagles could see a number of personnel changes with the new regime, but they can’t afford to fall off significantly in the secondary in a division with Eli Manning, Robert Griffin III and Tony Romo. You might expect Chip Kelly to score points, but he’s always put a great emphasis on his defense too. Milliner has elite grades in terms of awareness and ball skills, and he’s a physical corner who can push wideouts off routes. And he can flat-out tackle.

ESPN’s Todd McShay has the Eagles getting Joeckel:

West Virginia QB Geno Smith is a possibility here, but Joeckel is one of the top three overall prospects in this class and would be tough to pass up. New head coach Chip Kelly favors smaller, more athletic linemen like Joeckel, who would take care of a desperate need for an overall talent and depth upgrade along the offensive line. The question is whether the Eagles would feel comfortable moving Joeckel to the right side to accommodate returning LT Jason Peters.

Chris Wesseling of NFL.com takes a look at what’s in store for the Eagles this offseason:

Highly regarded new vice president of player personnel Tom Gamble will be a busy man in March. The Eagles will field offers for quarterback Nick Foles, with a trade to the Kansas City Chiefs as a likely scenario. Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha is expected to be a cap casualty after a disastrous two-year stint in Philadelphia. Gamble and Kelly could use the No. 4 overall pick on Utah’s Star Lotulelei to fill the nose-tackle void while targeting a developmental quarterback in the second or third round.

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  • http://twitter.com/Brendanekstrom Brendan ekstrom

    I really wanted Lavonte David in Philly.

    • http://twitter.com/PhiIs_Goodman Phils Goodman

      Me too. I thought he was ours. It hurts to see him thriving for another team.

      • nicksaenz1

        Just like Earl Thomas and JPP…. Although, I do think Graham finally lives up to his draft slot this year.

        • D3Keith

          There’s a good chance those guys wouldn’t be the players they are today if they’d been in the Eagles’ system the past two years … and the guys we didn’t take would be stars elsewhere.

          You can say we drafted the wrong guys. I’d say that the recent track record suggests we aren’t getting a lot of the talent we do end up with, and pointed to coaching and organizational deficiencies.

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            Amen. Graham was the right pick in the slot, he was the better prospect.

            There’s an old saying about hindsight…

    • FMWarner

      I did as well. I was nervously watching the last few picks before the Eagles picked, and breathed a sigh of relief, only to see them pick Kendricks. He’s fine, but David is great.

    • JofreyRice

      David’s a very good linebacker, but I still like Kendricks a lot. He was my favorite LB in the draft, and I was psyched when they got him. Obviously, there really is no comparison with their rookie seasons. David was one of the better 4-3 OLB’s in the entire league, and Kendricks struggled pretty badly at times.

      Still, I think he can be a very good linebacker in the NFL. I think he struggled mostly against NFL ballcarriers, in the run game; he was actually pretty decent vs. the pass, and I think he’s a better blitzer than David. He didn’t play as quickly or violently in Philly as he played at Cal, against the run. He was a heatseeking missile at Cal, but looked hesitant as an Eagle. I have to think having him learn from Ryans, adding strength in the offseason, and moving to an attacking 3-4 (which is what they run at Cal) is going to help him make a big step this year. I hope.

      • http://twitter.com/Brendanekstrom Brendan ekstrom

        Definitely excited to see him in a new scheme. And in what people are saying is more a natural position for him.

  • Andy

    Foles to KC for the first pick in the third round?

    • ICDogg

      They’d have to seriously consider it. But I don’t think I’d go lower than that, since Foles has value to the Eagles both as a prospect and as a backup and you’re not trying to move him for the sake of moving him.

      • nicksaenz1

        Agreed they’d have to consider it. Only concern would be draft priority. I think Joeckel is the #1 overall pick for the Chiefs if they trade for Foles. The value management places on landing Joeckel factors in to the decision to trade Foles. That’s how I would look at it, at least.

    • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

      If you’re going to make a deal and trade Foles, I think you have to get at least a 3rd rounder for him, if not higher. Here’s my case:

      Foles has essentially completed his rookie season. You know what you can expect and you’ve seen his potential in the NFL. He played relatively well behind a porous o-line. With this class of weak rookie QB’s, I don’t see any 2nd or 3rd round QB’s that can step in and play as well as Foles can right now.

      In KC, although they are bad, I think a lot of that is contributed to their just god awful QB play. I think they’re a few pieces away from going from a bad team to a mediocre team with a high ceiling. I’d rather pay Foles 500k than Flynn or Smith at 7 mill.

  • knighn

    I recall a lot of people wanting Lavonte David last year. I don’t remember any Eagles fan talking about Mychal Kendricks before he was drafted.

    If I’m the Eagles, I try to see if Kansas City is willing to give up at least their 3rd and their 5th, if not their 2nd, straight out. Kansas City desperately needs QBs. Foles was worth a 3rd last year, and now he’s got a year in the NFL and Andy Reid’s system (where he performed pretty well). KC should give up their second pick. It doesn’t mean that they will, but they should!

    • Andy

      I think that would be great, but since they own the first pick in the second round that is pretty close to a first rounder and may be a lot to ask for Foles. If they can get it, fantastic. I guess the question is is there a QB on the board at the beginning of the second round that Reid & Co want more than Foles.

      • knighn

        If they can’t get it, keep Foles. All I have heard or read from everyone who actually knows Chip Kelly (former QBs who have played with him / other former players / former coaches) says that Foles can play for him. Let Foles provide decent competition or a decent backup QB… or let another team give up more than a 3rd round pick for him.

    • CJ

      Remember, Marty’s with the Jets too. If the Eagles’ guy is gone by 4, I wouldn’t mind seeing them use Foles to swap 1’s and pick up a #2, and take Jordan. Gives them a top 10 pick, and 2 top 7 picks in the 2nd. On the old trade chart, that grades Foles out around a mid 4th, so they may even be able to get more than that.

      • knighn

        Yeah. I keep on going back and forth on Foles. He didn’t light up the world last season, and he wasn’t a big-time winner in college (University of Arizona, 2009-2011). Still, there’s time when I see that spark of greatness in him and think he has a slim chance to be something special. I would hate more than anything to watch that guy go on to be a Champion with someone else.

        On the other hand: if Chip Kelly looks at him and doesn’t see him as a viable option, the Eagles better get whatever they can for him. Still, I think the value should be at least equivalent to a 3rd round pick.

        • CJ

          I still like him. He made enough noise in college on a weaker team to make a name for himself. He played behind 20% of the Eagles starting line last season. He was doomed to fail miserably from the start, and somehow didn’t. That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement, but made me want to see what he could do with a healthy line up front.

          • ICDogg

            I think Kelly has an offense in mind he wants to run, and doesn’t see Foles running it; otherwise he wouldn’t have had Vick returning. On the other hand, Kelly will adjust to whatever he needs to adjust to.

    • D3Keith

      I recall a lot of people wanting Lavonte David last year. I don’t
      remember any Eagles fan talking about Mychal Kendricks before he was
      drafted.

      Revisionist history. We all wanted Bobby Wagner, David or Kendricks.

      • knighn

        No revisionist history here. That is just what I recall. It doesn’t mean that I am recalling correctly, but I that is indeed what I recall. When I am wrong, I take great pride in admitting that I am wrong. It only makes me more right!

        • CJ

          I am so stealing that last sentence.

          • CJ

            er last two I mean…I guess we can call it even from yesterday then :)

          • D3Keith

            I like that too.

  • peteike

    I want them to take Joeckel, Milliner or Star. Id be happy with any of those 3 at #4. I dont think the Eagles would get value for Foles, nobody is giving much up for him. Hes better served competing to start this season, which he has a great chance to win that spot. In the long run, he would prob be better in a different system. Maybe if he does get to start this year and shows some things, then you trade him for more value later. Need a top pick in next yrs draft to get the future franchise QB anyway in the most likely best case scenario.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=508479001 Richaud Jeaffreson

      The Eagles would be stupid not to trade back, and gain picks, while still getting a quality guy like Dion Jordan, Ezekiel Ansah, Sharif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes, or Kenny Vaccaro.

  • Max Lightfoot

    Unless Chip and Howie Baby build up the O-line, it doesn’t matter who plays QB. As it is, they have no depth at all, and there’s no guarantee that Peters, Kelce or Herremans will come back in a healthy state. I hope that Kelly recognizes this – Andy sure didn’t – Reid thought he could make chateaubriand out of dog food with his lower round O-line picks. And that drafting pattern crippled this team for years. Go Eags!!

  • Mikedub

    I would take a shot at EJ Manuel

    • Smegga

      What did EJ do to you?

  • ICDogg

    So far I like a number of people at #4 but am not “in love” with any of them. I mean, there are some difference makers, but no game changers. I’d like to see some of the combine results for Jordan, in a way he’s exactly what I’d like to add to the team, but his career in college hasn’t necessarily lived up to what it looks like he could be.

  • 3 Finger Lenny

    trade foles to KC for a 5th rd pick

  • ojdiddoit

    foles to kc for first round swap of picks and kcs third round pick this year….please draft a big run stopping nt with that first pick Star Lotulelei