Source: Eagles Name Billy Davis Defensive Coordinator

Chip Kelly has tabbed Browns linebackers coach Billy Davis to be his defensive coordinator, according to a league source.

Geoff Mosher of CSN Philly was first to report the hire.

Interestingly, the top two assistant spots go to former Browns coaches, as former Cleveland head coach Pat Shurmur is expected to named offensive coordinator.

Davis has been the linebackers coach in Cleveland since 2011. Prior to that he served as the defensive coordinator in Arizona (2009-10) and San Francisco (2005-06). His NFL coaching resume dates back to 1992, starting out as a defensive assistant in Pittsburgh.

The Eagles interviewed Davis back on January 27. The 47-year-old was one of the only names concretely linked to the defensive coordinator post.

Georgia defensive coordinator Todd Grantham appeared to draw interest. Niners defensive backs coach Ed Donatell and linebackers coach Ted Monachino were mentioned as potential candidates as well. The Eagles stayed quiet on the subject throughout the process, as Kelly wanted to have his staff announced all at once.

Davis served as a ball boy for the Eagles under Dick Vermeil. His father, Bill Davis, worked in the Eagles’ personnel department in the late 80′s.

Davis’ track record as a defensive coordinator is less than striking. His units ranked 32nd and 26th in his two seasons as DC in San Francisco. In Arizona, his defense finished 20th and 29th in yards.

He is well-versed in the 3-4 and 4-3 (he ran a hybrid in Arizona), and does have a history of getting a lot out of his linebackers.

In three seasons as the Falcons’ linebackers coach,  Keith Brooking was selected to the Pro Bowl all three years. In the mid 90′s Davis began coached outside linebackers for the Carolina Panthers. In ’96 Kevin Greene and Lamar Lathon finished first and second in the NFL in sacks, with 14.5 and 13.5, respectively.

Also of note is that Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie made the Pro Bowl under Davis in ’09.

It is unclear how high up Davis was on Kelly’s initial wish list. On Wednesday it was reported that the Niners blocked Donatell from interviewing for the Saints’ defensive coordinator opening; it is conceivable they blocked the Eagles as well. We also know that Giants linebackers coach Jim Herrmann withdrew his name from consideration several weeks back, though it is uncertain how much interest the Eagles had in him.

In the end, Kelly chose Davis for the most important position in his cabinet. Only time will tell whether or not it was the right choice.

  • Frank

    Ugh

  • The Guru

    This is a hire that just blows back my hair. I’m ready for the season to start now! Wait, who the eff is Billy Davis?

    • MAC

      Can you say second choice! This just gets scarier and scarier each day in the off season. I am trying to have open mind and give Kelly a chance. The reports of keeping Vick possibly and hiring so far are not making this easy.

      • The Guru

        Since he’s been here….he hired a defensive staff before a coordinator, signed Dennis Dixon, is seriously considering keeping Vick, and now hired a defensive coordinator who has no business in that role….when accomplished guys like Spags/Horton were available.

        But, he’s going to “adapt” to the pro game! Riiiiiiggghht!

        • MAC

          I agree completely. This organization really thinks they are smarter than everyone else I swear. They refuse to look at franchises like Steelers or Giants that would never gamble like the Eagles have with Kelly and this staff. The Eagles lately seem more interested in getting hottest candidate or the exciting/contriversial signings like Vick, or how about signing the dream team through free agency instead of building through the draft. The news everyday gets more disheartening. Last few days Dixon signing, keep Vick possibly (worst of the news), & now were raiding the Cardinals and Browns old cabinet of coordinators. We are one step closer to that dynasty Vick was talking about!!!

          • The Guru

            I do disagree they think they’re smarter than everyone else. You’re giving them WAY too much credit. They’re about as incompetent as you get.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steven.smith.319452 Steven Smith

    Horrible choice for DC!!!

  • David Ramos

    I like it, before you start bashing him?? Read his profile and his track record. Phrases like “Commands room”, “compiles Blitz packages”, “Helped Wade Phillips transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4″, “Pro Bowl LBs wherever he ahs coached the LBs”…. Sure we all wanted a big name?? But this guy has NFL experience, has ties to the Eagles, even if it is a ball boy for Vermeil. Would you rather be blocked by SF and Baltimore and THEN choose one?? I like this hiring, expect alot more production form our LBs this season.

    • 47_Ronin

      Who is bashing Billy Davis? Pointing out the statistical rankings of the defenses Davis has coordinated is NOT bashing, how else would you evaluate a DC? Rather than mindlessly repeating blurbs from Davis’ coaching bio (the Eagles already have a PR staff to do that, or may be you’re a member of that group??) expalin why you like it, hopefully you can point to something based on facts so that we can have a reasoned discussion on the merits of the hire.

      • Stephen Stempo

        Well that whole paragraph was pointless.

        • David Ramos

          Awww thanks!!!

      • David Ramos

        I like it because he is a guy with boht 4-3 and 3-4 experience. LBs performance have been an issue of the Eagles for years, he has had Pro Bowl LBs where he coached, either as a LB Coach or DC. Has has great mentors in Wade Phillips, Capers and Reeves. Has NFL experience…. Has worked with so-so talent and has had bad offensive help, or can you be a good DC with you are down 2 scores all the time, come on bro!! Can’t I have a little faith??

        • peteike

          well hes both had great LBs and also worked with so so talent. Kind of justifying in both directions there but I like your point about his mentors and Lb experience. The only positive spin I can find on the guy so not much but Ill take it.

  • brza

    Can’t believe we waited all this time for Billy Davis. Not much positive about the hire. In two different two-year stints as DC he finished 14th, 31st, 32nd & 26th in yards. 11th, 26th, 30th & 24th in points. In Arizona the team actually regressed and in San Fran the D improved only marginally. Also, after he left the defenses improved. Not good signs.

    Is it possible that the Eagles really were holding out for a 49ers or Ravens assistant and were blocked on both? This hire just doesn’t make any sense otherwise.

    • peteike

      I agree, not impressed at all with anything Kelly is doing so far. Will this team be looking at a new hc and gm in 3 yrs? All the Vick and Dixon talk and now getting a 3-4 guy just leads me to think Kelly is no adapting to the NFL but simply trying to recreate his college success at the next level which is a recipe for disaster. Yes, may be too early to guess that, but thats how its looking. Dont expect the D to get better than last seasons awfulness, will take time to transition to 3-4 player wise. Im not usually negative either.

      • Stephen Stempo

        Hiring an of versed in the west coast style passing offense shows incredibly rigid thinking in Kelly’s part. It just screams that he has no interest I adjusting to the nfl. I mean Kelly’s offense and shurmurs may as well be the same, oh wait.

        • MAC

          Or he just wants a yes man as offensive coordinator like Shurmer.

          Shurmer worked with QB’s under Reid and Shurmur was hired by Holmgren in Cleveland. Reid is known as QB guru so guessing most of what Shurmur did was what Reid told him to and Holmgren is notorious for being a control freak with personnel and stuff. So maybe Chip just wants a guy who has done a good job of staying out of the way of there boss like Shurmer has done in both situations.

          • Stephen Stempo

            Well as they say. ” extra-ordinary claims requires extra-ordinary evidence.” Should I hold my breath ?

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            how’d McNabb play after Shurmur left philly and what happen with Kolbs development? You’re disrespectful to Shurmur and McNabb, considering what they achieved in Philly

          • D3Keith

            You guys couldn’t be more wrong. The West Coast offense that Shurmur is versed in is not really similar to the zone-read based run attack that Kelly likes. If anything, the Shurmur hire signifies that Kelly *doesn’t* want a yes-man on offense, he wanted someone who’d been around the NFL and been a head coach before, someone who would challenge his thinking and had the clout to do so, but not someone who’ll be eager to move on or coveted.

            The names aren’t big, so the only way to see the wisdom in the hires is to view them in the way they’ll work with Kelly and develop players. You’re well within your rights to focus on their past numbers and hate the hires, but calling guys with opposite philosophies “rigid” and “yes men” obscures the facts.

    • http://www.facebook.com/reginald.thelonius Reginald Thelonius

      In my view it’s usually unfair to judge a coordinator for a bad team, having a very short stint.. as you note, they got better after he left, since their personnel got better. They still have the same schemes in place. People overreact, as we did, when teams perform poorly.

      • ICDogg

        Yeah, from what I gather this guy has experience at converting defenses to the 3-4. So historically he is there during the transition, but for whatever reason when the transitions have been over he’s moved on.

        • MAC

          Moved on or fired? Think the later. Horton did not need his help to convert Arizona Horton learned form one of best ever in Dick Lebeau.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            Davis resume suggest his special talent is teaching and implementing that 3-4 theory and moving on every place he has been has recently converted.

      • MAC

        Same scheme in place? After this guy left Arizona Ray Horton came in & he runs the Steelers (Dick Lebeau) system. So not really the case. Arizona has had an excellent defense since he left.

  • David Ramos

    Mike Nolans Defense was never a good one or exceled before he was in ATL and even now he is just in the top portion in Run D. People learn, evolve and improve. Give the man a chance!!! No wonder we are known as the worst fans in the NFL

    • Jason_E

      That’s not correct. Nolan had a top defense with the Broncos and an above average D with the Dolphins.

  • David Ramos

    Check jim Johnson’s track record before he ever came to the Eagles…. And now we all known him as the best DC we have ever had. HAVE FAITH!!!

    • Randall Cunningham’s Bible

      Bud Carson might have something to say about what “we all known”

      • Hurricane Dave

        THANK GAWD someone who doesn’t suckle at the nipple of St. Johnson. Those Bud Carson defenses were VICIOUS and they were the best and most sound defenses in Eagles history!!!

        • ICDogg

          While I agree that they were the best defenses I can remember on the Eagles, those types of shutdown defenses are a thing of the past, I think. Especially with the rules becoming so much more pro-offense.

          • David Ramos

            Defenses cant be “vicious” anymore, I agree with you there ICDogg, and I apologize for overlooking Carson, but didn’t we love JJ?? Don’t we miss him and he had a bad track record. I agree this team doesn’t have the talent yet to be a overpowering 3-4 Defense, but remember, the team that we have today?? Is not the on that will play on opening day

        • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

          Carson, used the same players Wade Phillips and Jeff Fisher put on the field under Buddy Ryan. Ryan brought in Clyde Simmons, Jerome Brown, Eric Allen, and Seth Joyner as compliments to Reggie White. then Mike Pitts and Izel Jenkins. Mike Golic and Byron Evans were added by Fisher.

          Buddy Ryan was the master mind of the best Defense in Philly, Bud Carson benefited from the players Buddy brought here.

      • Stephen Stempo

        Didn’t know bud Carson was a grammar nazi.

    • The Guru

      Difference is JJ came to a team LOADED with Ray Rhodes talent. This team has no talent on defense and especially not switching to a 3-4

      • Stephen Stempo

        Loaded? Or did jj just get the best out of what was there ? I dunno.

        • The Guru

          Hugh Douglas, Troy Vincent, Brian Dawkins, Bobby Taylor, Trotter, Ike Reese, Al Harris, Hollis Thomas….yeah loaded.

          • Stephen Stempo

            Maybe my memory if foggy but I’m not sure I remember thinking that in 1998. That Ike Reese al Harris and Hollis Thomas were world beaters. Also I’m fairly certain Dawkins was in what his second year ? Rose colored glasses perhaps. He did inherent good corners and Douglas. Which is all I seem to remember.

          • The Guru

            Perhaps you should look up how many pro bowls they collectively made. Thanks for playing…

          • GoBirds1

            Let’s see pro bowl appearances:
            Ike Reese – 1 in 2004 as a special teamer
            Al Harris – 2, four years after he left philly and was playing for GB
            Hollis Thomas – 0

            But otherwise, great point, dope!

          • GoBirds1

            You are kidding me, Ike Reese, he was a back on D, but a ST ace. Check your facts. And Hollis Thomas, great guy, but average player at best.

          • GoBirds1

            backup on D

          • The Guru

            He actually played a very good nickel LB, but I was more referring to his special teams role.

  • http://twitter.com/poopdollar1 BJ Poops

    well said David Ramos. Everyone else might want to do some homework.

    • MAC

      Is his defensive rankings as a defensive coordinator not important or what most would look for when they do homework? Listen anytime other coaches who work with a guy for years give him compliments you do have to take it with a grain of salt. They are friends and fellow coaches and would never straight bash a guy. I hope there is something I am missing about this guy. I am trying to be open minded but all kelly reports and moves so far are not exactly confidence inspiring. I hope I am wrong and I hope Kelly does know what he is doing. Do not get mad that people who are fans and put money into tickets, merchandise, etc and want nothing more than a Super Bowl react negatively to those rankings for this guy and some other rumors that are very scary like keeping Vick. We all have the right to question our team and these decisions. Most including myself will be there supporting this team no matter what. It’s getting harder and harder to agree with there plans so far though.

      • peteike

        great post. Agree completely. We really want to be proven wrong, I know I do, just dont like what Im seeing.

      • Stephen Stempo

        ” I am trying to be open minded …” Interesting. You do know just saying that doesn’t make it true.

  • daggolden

    Started out with 3 Years as a Defensive Assistant under Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh from 1992-1995, then Coached the Carolina Panthers LB’s under Dom Capers from 1995-1998 (LB”s Kevin Greene and Lamar Lathon were All-Pro’s under his Coaching ) and then a couple of 1 Year Stints with the Browns and Packers as LB Coach.
    Worked for Atlanta Falcons from 2001 thru 2004 under Dan Reeves as LB Coach under DC Wade Phillips (Keith Brooking an All-Pro each Year under Davis’s Coaching)
    Became DC of the 49ers from 2005-2006 under HC Mike Nolan as he wanted to implement a 3-4 and Davis was highly recommended
    Davis then moved on to Arizona in 2007 and was LB Coach then elevated to DC Coach thru 2010 as the Cardinals began hiring many ex-Steelers Coaches (Wisenhut,Grimm,Horton,Jr,etc,etc)
    In 2011, Davis was the LB Coach for the Cleveland Browns

    Per long-time NFL Coach Tim Lewis of the NY Giants, “Davis commands respect from the Players and other Coaches in the room, he would plan up all the Blitz Packages for us as a Position Coach with such detail that normallly only a DC would do”

  • gfs

    Clearly he wasn’t the first choice for the position. If Kelly really wanted him from the get-go, he would’ve signed him 2 weeks ago. Davis was clearly a plan B.

    • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

      And so what? Donatell could have very well been choice A and we were blocked from getting him. So we don’t get choice A, we probably shouldn’t have signed a coordinator at all then. We didn’t miss out on anyone because we waited till after the Super Bowl. Plan B’s are an extremely common occurance when recruiting for any job.

      • The Guru

        They had a chance to get Ray Horton….and didn’t.

        • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

          Horton was fired January 17th and hired the 18th. He knew he was going to Cleveland, who knows what chance the Eagles had to get him. He was the best candidate available, I highly doubt they wouldn’t even kick the tires if they had the chance.

  • B-West

    Well… score one for the Kelly detractors. Very underwhelming OC and DC hires. The ‘wait and see, give them a chance’ argument is what it is, but the track records of the new coordinators are simply not good.

    • Stephen Stempo

      Neither were the organizations they coached for. I’m Also confused shurmur has a terrible track record ? Didn’t know that.

      • MAC

        True, but the fact those bad organizations have same ideas CK has in who he wants to run his defense should scare any fan. Part of reason they are bad organizations is bc they make suspect hiring in many cases. So we should not question when CK likes same guy as those organizations did?

      • B-West

        Shurmur’s last 4 years as head coach of Browns and OC of Rams, in terms of team’s total offense rank… 25th, 29th, 26th and 29th. I believe that backs up my statement that the OC’s track record is ‘simply not good’.

        • Stephen Stempo

          I disagree. But ok. You go with what you want. I don’t feel like hashing it out but I just urge you to think things through before knee jerking.

          • B-West

            Ha. Whatever man. Its not knee jerk and I don’t need your advice. You tell me to ‘think’ because you nothing else to say. Now I see why Jacobs trips out around here.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            Shurmur has twice that experience working with McNabb under Andy Reid going to 5 Conference Championship Games. That is not cheezey exp.

    • MAC

      All these moves and reports lately are definitely scaring me. I hated Kelly hiring and am trying to get on board bc I have no choice when it comes to Eagles. I will stand by my team always, but the Vick rumors and hiring’s are making it tough.

      I am most worried so far about Kelly being true to his statements about adapting philosophy to his personnel versus getting personnel to run his system. This is always a recipe for disaster for first time NFL head coaches. Both of our new coordinators are from the Browns while the Browns got Ray Horton as defensive coordinator.

      By the way Horton i believe took over for this guy in Arizona when he was fired. Trying to stay positive and open minded though.

    • D3Keith

      “the track records of the new coordinators are simply not good.”

      Usually coordinators with good track records become head coaches, or keep their jobs as coordinators.

  • Frank

    Kelly better hope his offense can put up 30+ every game….

    • Stephen Stempo

      Why?

    • tombo

      You must be a Billy Davis expert

  • jabostick

    I’m not putting a ton of stock into the previous stats of his short stints as DC (others have brought up Jim Johnson) but the timing of it is weird and it has the feel of a second or third choice and I think the concerns of hiring a DC after the other defensive coaches is a legitimate one. I’m keeping an open mind though.

    • David Ramos

      At least YOU are keeping an open mind. Comparing the Azzinaro hiring to th Washubrn is nothing alike, Washburn used a specific scheme, Azzinaro is a teacher. And I do agree that maybe we were blocked from Monachino and Donatell… But this guy has experience… Let’s have faith

      • MAC

        I am trying to be open minded here, I didn’t like the Kelly hiring at all! I am a die hard Eagles fan so i have no choice but to try to make best of it. Then I hear we CK might keep Vick and that is the most awful news/decision I could imagine! Then we get the Browns LB coach. I am trying to have faith and an open mind but this is getting scary.

        Kelly so far, and granted nothing is set in stone, but is making me think he is trying to build Eagles way Oregon was. So far all reports and moves di indicate he is not adapting scheme to personnel, but getting personnel for his scheme. This usually spells disaster when new NFL coaches try to re invent the way to win in this league. All the fans that love the Kelly hiring seem to just say have faith be positive and I and many like me are trying, but not making it easy.

        • The Guru

          Like we predicted, this has all the signs of epic failure. Get ready for 42-40 games folks.

          • MAC

            Exactly!! That’s good though bc the teams in the Super Bowl prove that defense is not important anymore in the “new” NFL. Give me a break!

        • David Ramos

          Eagles have repeatedly said that the Kelly hiring is for his offensive mind and not for his scheme in Oregon…. I understand we haven’t been through this much change in 14 years and change scares everyone…. But can the guy even coach a game before we start running the trucks with the “NO MAS” signs around the Linc??

    • Stephen Stempo

      I actually disagree. Those concerns probably aren’t legitimate. If you think hard about it.

      • jabostick

        This is getting into semantics but absolutely they’re legitimate concerns. You can argue what impact it’ll ultimately have but if you value a coaching staff that is “on the same page” and your head coach has a history of staying out of the way of the defensive coaches, than the boss of the D not having a say in his staff is POTENTIALLY problematic.

        • Stephen Stempo

          Your opinion is far too tainted by the Washburn debacle. Had that never happened you never make this post correct ?

          • jabostick

            I’m pretty sure this criticism was made (by some) originally when Washburn was hired first before Juan came on board. You hear it when coaches are hired before GM’s as well. These past two years have heightened our awareness to it but this isn’t simply Washburn-backlash. Besides, the Washburn mess would make the concern more legitimate, not less, wouldn’t it?

  • Bob A

    You have to admit though, his early work with Marilyn McCoo was great with ‘Aquarius’ and ‘Wedding Bell Blues’.

    • ICDogg

      oh great, now I have those songs stuck in my head

      • Bob A

        Let the sunshine, let the sunshine…Now everybody…I want you to sing along with the 5th dimension! the sunshine in…..

        • ICDogg

          Up up and away in my beautiful my beautiful balloon

  • ICDogg

    WTF

  • http://twitter.com/ScottJ610 Scott J

    I would feel better if we were getting a guy from a successful team. But, the Browns?

    • MAC

      Funniest part is the Browns got Horton so Lurie go compare def coordinators with Banner and see who wins.

      • Stephen Stempo

        Well. I guess we will. Though you seem to think you can judge that now.

        • MAC

          What else should I do in offseason before the guy starts while in a comments section about the hiring? Wait until season and then come back to this article? Good point buddy as usual.

  • Corry

    This is like waking up Christmas morning and finding out all you got we’re socks. All that waiting and anticipation just to be disappointed. Hopefully his previous stints at DC were just bad situations that led to the mediocre statistics.

    • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

      This is the problem with Philly fans right here. You all are just Madden kids who only look for familiar names. Which candidate, exactly, did you covet? Who in this crop of available defensive coordinators stood out over anyone else? Nobody. You want Spags? Crennel? Lovie? There wasn’t going to be any wow factor when it came to this hire.

      • David Ramos

        Well said Adam

        • MAC

          You and Adam’s whole approach is wait and see it will be great yea!!! Everything will be great this time around you will see give it a chance. How about real stats or facts to back up why we should be excited about the hiring.

      • The Guru

        Wrong. You hire the LB coach from Baltimore or Spags and people are excited. You hire a guy who has failed miserably twice already, and this is the reaction you get.

        • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

          Hahaha Matt another example of your fine posting.

          Who would be excited for Spags? Have you followed his defenses since he left Giants. Juan was a better coach than him the last 2 years. People would piss and moan about his failures just like they’re doing about this Davis.

          And you don’t even know Ted Monachino’s name. People will whine that he’s never been a coordinator since high school. I think the reaction will be luke-warm just like it is right now.

          Philly fans will find something to complain about with just about any move they make.

          • The Guru

            Spags won a Super Bowl over Tom Brady with his defense….and has there been a Pro Bowl LB in Philadelphia since he left? How about Ray Horton? Nice try dope.

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            You can try and forget about Spags defenses in St. Louis and New Orleans bud, but they aren’t going away. He couldn’t recreate his success anywhere else, why do you think he could here?

          • The Guru

            Even Dick LeBeau wouldn’t have been successful with that lack of talent. Try again.

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            Yes, and this defense is overflowing with talent.

          • The Guru

            How would you know playing the Wide 9 for two years with an offensive line coach?

          • MAC

            So you can use personnel as a reason Davis may not have had success when he was coordinator but when it comes to Spags the Rams and Saints defensive personnel might not have had something to do with his defensive rankings? Did Spags have the #30 and #32 ranked scoring defense ever? Cause Davis did in SF and in both Arizona and SF his defenses got worse in his 2nd and last year he kept his job in both places. Davis probably would have stopped one of best scoring offenses in league history to win a super bowl, just like Spags did if he had the Giants talent. Right

          • Stephen Stempo

            Straw man.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            Bull, the Giants had an awesome defensive, Spags offered nothing to the Giants, and with the Rams he had talent and produced a disaster, they got nothing in New Orleans from Spag so he’s out the door there. This proves in NY he went along for the ride and nothing more.

          • The Guru

            They weren’t awesome until he got there. Go look at the stats.

          • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

            Same core members, Osi, and Straham of that Defense were in place and had been long before Spags got to New York.

            Spags could not duplicate success with the Rams or Saints, and the Rams had pretty good base members on their defense. And he could not fill the void left by Greg Williams with the Saints last year.

          • The Guru

            The Saints was a different situation with all the suspensions. Dick LeBeau would have failed. Name these Rams members of the defense that you think are so great.

        • Stephen Stempo

          I would react the same way. Cautious optimism. You,for some reason, convinced yourself that those guys would come in hear and automatically be better than billy Davis. The interesting part is that you base that off of nothing. I remember Sean McDermott. Assistants, even under good DC’s don’t always pan out.

          And don’t presume to label how everyone reacts based on only your world view.

          • The Guru

            First genius, there’s a difference between hear and here. Second, what gives you optimism? The part where he coached for 4 seasons and progressively got worse? Or the facts those guys have proven it in other spots. I’m pretty sure basing my opinion off those FACTS is ok.

            My world view is always right. But, I’m pretty sure I’m going to label you as a complete moron who doesn’t know jack about football.

      • MAC

        Ray Horton, Romeo Cornell, any guy who has had success as a defensive coordinator. How about any defensive coach that doesn’t have a backround with Arizona and Cleveland. It’s not about name it’s about production as defensive coordinator. This guy’s ranking should scare people and if they don’t then your optimism is unbelievable, What about those rankings should I jump for joy about?

        • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

          When did I ever once say that I was optimistic about this hiring? I’ve stated several times that none of these candidates had any wow factor, none of these guys are going to blow anyone out the water.

          You can’t just put a stat and a rank to a guy and call it a fact that will automatically transfer to all his future success or failure. There are so many factors, be it players, assistants, head coach philosophy, draft picks etc that factor in.

          I, just like you, have absolutely NO CLUE how this team will look and perform next season. It is February folks. The coaching staff isn’t even complete, and you’re already writing off next season.

        • Stephen Stempo

          Mac keeps setting up and knocking down his own straw-men which is probably exhausting.

      • Corry

        I was actually hoping for Lovie but knew early on he was out of the running. To be honest with you I wasn’t sure who I wanted, I’m just saying I’m not impressed with Davis’s track record. I haven’t done a lot of research and will give him the benefit of a doubt, but I’m not excited by it. Again, just based off the statistics his defenses have compiled in the past, I’m not exactly jumping for joy.

        And Madden Kid? Ouch.

        • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

          Sorry Corry, not usually into attacks like that. I get steamed sometimes. It’s all in good fun, we’re all just as clueless as the next guy.

  • 1972

    i like it! Now get star or jarvis jones in april and im ready for the season

    • GoBirds1

      Jones is too small and one dimensional, didnt have enough of that with Babin. #4 pick for a specialty player does not make sense.

  • Joe D

    The biggest win in all of this is the fact they will finally switch to a 3-4. The 4-3 is going the way of the dinosaur. They now need to get the guys that can play in the system. I’m looking at you Baltimore. There is no way they can keep both Kruger and Ellerbee. My guess is Kruger is the more expendable one with the deerspray murder coverer riding off into the sunset they will need Ellerbee more. Get on the phone, Howie.

    Cleveland’s D was pretty decent the past 2 seasons. Not a bad unit. I saw him take Gocong and make him a respectable player. That’s something.

    • ICDogg

      I don’t think either the 3-4 or 4-3 is inherently better. It’s always more about having the right players in the right scheme for them.

    • Hurricane Dave

      Must disagree on your point about the 4-3: I think the trend is to have personnel and scheme that is flexible enough to defend the hybrid offenses that have become chic. 3-4 front 7 personnel offers such flexibility, however you should be able to adjust to 4-3 looks/concepts as needed. That is one thing I’ve noticed from both the 49ers and Ray-vens and Pats.

      • Joe D

        Personnel is still far and away this team’s biggest problem on defense. There is plenty of talent in the draft and in free agency though to gut the D correctly and get the right players for the 3-4.

    • MAC

      Do you even know the whole murderer story with Ray Lewis? Maybe people should look at the man and see the facts of the incident. The man has done more work for people and community and helps more players than probably anyone in the league has. I think it’s ridiculous to continue to call him a murderer over 10 years later when it’s pretty much been proven he is innocent of the charges.

      • Joe D

        Dude c’mon.

    • MAC

      Also as far as 3-4 vs 4-3 most of the game defenses are in Nickle, Dime, or some other 4 down lineman set up. 3-4 is a base defense and can be very good if have right personnel and right coordinator. The Patriots are a 3-4 team, yet they are in 4 down lineman most of game.

  • ICDogg

    It’s amazing how much we overanalyze the credentials of people that we have hardly even heard anything about.

  • addiAddicted2Mula

    Yall never kno wats goin happen. Lets get to the practice or preseason. CK worked with mobile and non mobile qbs. He likes to keep shit private as possible.

    • MAC

      I know what happens with Vick as our QB and the Browns coaching staff’s over the years. I hope CK is keeping his plans very private bc his public plans/reports are scaring the heck out of me.

  • Shark

    Juan Castillo>

  • xlGmanlx

    I think I will wait until the igg’s actually announce the entire staff. It would make sense if they were holding out for 9′rs and were rebuffed (I could see Jim being like that) and the Ravens not wanting to break up a staff that just won the superbowl. Either way, i’m not going to pass judgement until I see a product on the field.

  • http://www.facebook.com/luke.mrzljak Luke Ivan

    Bleacherreport.com called it “The 47-year-old was up for this very job two years ago when Andy Reid went with Juan Castillo instead. It’s possible they interviewed him just to cover their asses in case the 49ers and Baltimore Ravens block assistants Donatell and Ted Monachino from leaving. ” Obviously the source is bleacher report.
    Nothing like being the last possible option.

  • David Ramos

    This whole comment list is exactly why the Eagles fans are called the worst in the NFL….. And why coaches just dont want to come work here. But I still love my Eagles

    • peteike

      I like your optimism but please dont give me the BS about coaches not working here because of a fan base. Not buying it, dont think they are reading msg boards in their free time. If anyone takes any msg board seriously they have issues.

    • Stephen Stempo

      What coaches ?

  • http://twitter.com/Lez215 Dutch

    When I look down this roster I don’t see the skills for an effective 3-4 scheme. The Eagles must first master the basic concepts of tackling. Without pause Star Lotulelei has to be the pick at No.4 so there goes any hope of drafting Luke Joeckel. Cox will be a featured end on one side, Graham will probably be converted to Linebacker probably along with Cole, and Ryans will man one interior backer spot, although Ryans seem a bit smallish for inside linebacker in a 3-4.

    It’ll take a few years to get this right.

    • knighn

      To be fair: the Eagles clearly demonstrated over the last two seasons that they lack the talent for an effective 4-3 scheme. It doesn’t make a lot of difference with the Eagles – whether 3-4 or 4-3, they’ve got a lot of building to day!

    • Stephen Stempo

      You mean we might not win the Super Bowl this year ? Stop the presses.

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    The suspense is over. Hopefully they can get Billy some studs. Fletcher Cox seems to be a legit building block with Graham, Boykin and Kendricks as possibilities as well.

  • Wrighto

    Unfortunately Chippah made another big mistake with a Browns coach. Maybe he didnt get the memo but the browns are at the bottom of the NFL for the past two decades. Davis is a third tier candidate at best, who has not had success a coordinator. Sure he has had some pro bowl line backers on junky teams but someone has to make tackles and inflate their stats. This is such a disappointing pick for coordinator. Add the name Davis to the following list: McDermott, Castillo, Bowles. All crappy DCs that last two years or less. How can Lurie and Howie allow this? The D is the biggest piece of the puzzle that needs to be fixed and to hire someone with experience but no success is absurd. The D needs to be absolutely blown up so now is the time to switch to a 3-4, can anyone honestly say that this D is a few pieces away, NO! We need an all new secondary, all new LBs aside from Ryans and Kendricks, and more D line to compliment Cox. Between Davis and Shurmur, these two major hires are questionable at best, and to us die hard fans…this is the same Andy Reid BS that this organization fed us the last 14 years.

    • GoBirds1

      What do you mean, ;How can Lurie and Howie allow this?’. They are the ones pulling the trigger on this crap. Shurmur, ok, get it with HC Kelly running the O, but Billy ball boy Davis. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • David Ramos

    Tommy Lawlor: Here’s an interesting nugget: the 2010 Cardinals led the NFL in Red Zone defense. RZ & takeaways are key stats in judging defense these days

  • GoBirds1

    I find the whole coordinator shell game quite interesting, and although Banner may have been out lucked when the Birds landed Kelly, Lurie and Howie look a little silly with their OC and DC hires. After selecting Chudzinski as HC, Banner nailed down Horton and Turner, both great coordinators on their respective side of the ball, particularly compared to Billy Davis and Pat Shurmur. The gold standard at work once again. I can rationalize a second rate OC like Shurmur when the HC will be running the O, but I think Davis was pretty far down their list. They definitely dropped the ball regarding Horton. Arrogantly thinking,(shocker) Howie and Lurie believed they would get their top 1 or two pick, consequently they were not in the mix when Arians got the Cards HC job and Horton was out.

    Horton leaves ‘Zona to go to Cleveland, Cleveland really! Bowles gets DC job in Zona after putting up the worst defensive numbers comparable to Spags in NO. And the Birds get shutoutabilitied on their top 5 picks, including Horton and settle for Davis. Let’s hope all his experience have matured and jelled into greatness. GoBirds!