Eagles Draft Watch: Week 15 Edition

With Sunday’s win over the Bucs, the Eagles improved to 4-9 on the season with three games left.

Three teams – the Jaguars (2-11), Chiefs (2-11) and Raiders (3-10) – have fewer wins than the Eagles. Four teams – the Panthers, Lions, Cardinals and Titans – have the same record (4-9) as the Birds.

The tiebreaker among teams with the same record is strength of schedule. The team with the overall easier schedule gets the higher pick. Here’s a look at the top five.

 
Wins
Losses
Opponent SOS
Chiefs (1)211.500
Jaguars (2)211.541
Raiders (3)310.457
Eagles (4)49.510
Panthers (5)49.510
Titans (6)49.532
Cardinals (7)49.562
Lions (8)49.566

The Chiefs get the nod over the Jaguars because they’ve had an easier schedule. The Raiders are third as the only 3-9 team.

But why are the Eagles ahead of the Panthers? Somehow, their strengths of schedule are identical. Each team’s opponents have combined for a 106-102 record (.510 winning percentage) through 13 games. But the Eagles (2-8) have a worse conference record than Carolina (4-7). That gives the Birds the edge. The Eagles still have two conference games remaining – against the Redskins and Giants. The Panthers have one conference game left – in Week 17 against the Saints.

Even if the Eagles had lost yesterday, they would be fourth since the Raiders have an easier strength of schedule.

Of course, a lot can change in the next three weeks. In addition to being tied with four teams at 4-9, five teams (the Saints, Dolphins, Bills, Chargers and Browns) are just a game better at 5-8.

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  • jabostick

    We won a game AND we kept the same draft position?! It really was a christmas miracle yesterday.

    • johnGiam

      yeah, but now if we win another game we are screwed! I didnt sit thru, literally THE MOST DIASSAPOINTING SEASON in the history of my fandom…where we went two Friggin months without a win…TO NOT GET A TOP 5 Pick! Can we please start building toward the future? DRC showed that when he wants to play, he is a fantastic corner..Nmandi proved there is no hope for him. Can we please not play Nmandi another single snap so that for atleast the next 3 games, we can find out if Brandon Hughes and curtis marsh are also completely useless? I think its an absolute TRAVESTY to have wasted such a freak athlete such as COX in the Wide 9, just senslessly rushing him up field regardless of whats going on. You seen the plays he could make in the run game, and guys like Graham and Curry playing sideline to sideline against the run in a traditional read and react scheme…. I really want to know who hired Wash, and whoever did, should be fired TODAY! Roseman is said to be to blame, but then howie quickly came out and thru andy under the nbus for it…
      Can we please take out all the starters and just start evaluating backups! surprise surprise, Kendricks was MOVED to the WIL, where I have been ranting all season long that its where he should be playing, and he was LIGHTS OUT…making plays all over the field yesterday! Can we please do something right and draft Manti Teo! His coverage skills, and interception ability at the LB spot, who can also Blitz and is STOUT against the run…would be so valuable to our defense, especially taking into account all the tough, pass catching TE’s that we have to play over the course of a season. If you have Manti, Meco, and Kendricks, playing behind a read n react line, we become extremely difficult to run against, and the tHUMPING Ryans, Flanked by two freak LBs in coverage…man we can do soo many good things with that! Add REAL safeties and a corner..and somewhere down the road, find a young stud tackle to compliment Fletcher…and we will be on the right track!

      • jabostick

        I don’t think we’re screwed if we drop a couple spots in the draft. I don’t think Manti (or any other LB) is going to fix this team.

        Now, I don’t know that I want them to win out necessarily, but the 8 games before this was getting unbearable. I hate when the Eagles lose and that win was exciting as hell to watch. I was happy for Andy, and happy for the guys that are still busting their ass.

        I don’t follow college a ton but the draft isn’t exactly stocked with stars, and the draft is 50-50 half the time anyway. I’ll take that win and if we can get another down that line that screws over the Cowboys or something (at the expense of a couple spots in the draft), then yeah I’ll take that too.

        • johngiam

          dude, I dont care how bad the draft is said to be…there is always atleast 1 pro bowler to come out of every draft at every position…we have scouts that are paid to identify these players. No excuse to not get a pro bowler with the top 5 pick! I think we could use a few pro bowlers around here if you ask me

  • Kevin_aka_RC

    The Eagles will be fine if they go 1-2 (just look at the remaining schedules of their opponents). However more than that and we risk leaving the top 10.

  • inhumanehuman

    Really makes all the Eagles fans rooting for a loss for draft position look stupid doesn’t it?

    • JohnGiam

      you are calling Eagles fans stupid, after they sat thru the disapointing season in the past 15 years, went 2 friggin months without a win, stupid? The same fans who sat thru the exact same putrid season last year, only to win 4 meaningless FOOLS GOLD wins at the end of the year that had ZERO effect on carrying the positivity over to this season…all it did, was play us out of good draft position. Those are the fans that you are calling stupid, after a game where the eagles moved to what 4-9? Thats rich if you ask me!

      • bsn

        YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME! Thankfully Coach Herm put that into words for everyone. Screw draft position. Nothing in the draft is guaranteed. Ever. These stupid campaigns like “Suck for Luck” that everyone thought was happening is God-awful and extremely annoying. Why don’t we just go ahead and suck every year so that we can always have a top-5 pick!

        • The Guru

          Worked out pretty well for Indy….just saying.

          • bsn

            Yeah, no doubt it did. But I don’t see any Andrew Luck’s in this year’s draft.

          • johngiam

            I have no problem with us winning that game yesterday…now if we win the last 3, after what I had to endure this year, I will absolutely be furious! You can play to win the game…all I care about is winning the superbowl, and that doesnt happen if you dont get into the playoffs. so, since today we stand mathematically eliminated from the playoffs…we are playing TO GET BACK TO THE PLAYOFFS, and a better draft position in EVERY round, can only help! winning the next 3 gets you excuses to not take out the garbage this offseason. How can anyone want any other scenario then: foles, young lineman, young defenders, bryce all continue to immprove, play an entertaining game and one of our safeties blows the game in the end (i want that safety hole to become so god damn glaring that no one can possibly ignore it this offseason).7-9 gets you no playoffs, bad draft position, and very possibly andy reid back! what exactly is the upside of winning the last 4 games? we sure won the last 4 games last year

          • bsn

            Yeah, and last year’s draft was arguably one of our best in the past 10-15 years. Cox is a beast, Kendricks has serious potential and Boykin is already a good slot CB. My point is, it’s never a guarantee that anyone selected in the first 5 picks is going to be great. This year doesn’t seem like a strong draft. The only upside to getting a top five pick this year would be to trade it how the Rams did. But I don’t see anyone dumb enough to do that this year. I would much rather us win games and pick later then purposefully lose and get an early pick. Picking early doesn’t guarantee having a great player. Finishing the season 7-9 is a LOT less embarrassing then 4-12. I’d take 15th over all at 7-9 then 5th over all at 4-12.

          • johngiam

            dude, no disrespect, but I cant friggin believe I am actually reading this. let me get this straight, you would rather be 7-9 and get the 15th pick? you know what 7-9 gets you? I promise you that 7-9 gets you, ANDY REID back! remember what lurie said last year? 8-8 is unacceptable, opf course unless there are crazy circumstances like the entire team being injured…7-9 is all the fuel Lurie needs to bring him back…and god forbid andy coach one a 1yr lame duck deal, his agent Lamonte aint having that! which likely means a 2yr contract extension! Nothing worse can happen to the eagles then winning the last 3 games! it would be a disaster if you ask me

          • johngiam

            oh yeah, btw, if you hadnt won those meaningless 4 games last year, you wouldnt have had to trade up to get Fletcher Cox, and you would have been able to keep the valuable pick you had to use to move up to get him…in a draft that brought us cox, kendricks, boykin, foles, bryce, kelly…seems like that pick could have been valuable!

  • 1972

    still in the top 5, looking good!!!alot of people on here want a defensive player. hope u saw how many times foles got hit.. and they dont even have a great pass rush.. get a star tackle to play for the next 10 yrs on this team. u have to keep ur commodity upright. herramans coming back means nothing to me. he had a subpar year at tackle move him back to guard and get a prowbowl calibur guy in here

    • The Guru

      Have you watched our secondary? If you get Peters, Kelce and Herremans back, and add them with Mathis and Scott, that’s a pretty good offensive line. Offensive line can always be found later in the draft.

      • johnGiam

        Peters, heremans (not easy at all playing next to an incompetant guard) mathis, kelce, scott, dennis kelly improving…a putrid defense, and you want to waste a top 5 pick on a tackle, who isnt a guarenteed future pro bowl tackle? am I in the friggin twilight zone here? keep in mind, that the incompetant Oline that you are watching play week in and week out, is being played in an extremely unorthdaox blocking scheme, that uses completly different blocking technique then any technique any of our players have ever played iun there lives. There is a REALLY BIG POSSABILITY that the guys you see fail in Mudd cockamamie crap…play MUCH better in a traditional blocking scheme that we will see next year. A Bum like Dametress Bell, he never played in this cra. he played in a traditional blocking scheme his entire career…Its not out of the realm of possibility that once we get Mudd out of here, some of these players bthat we view as bums can be significantly better next year when they go back to blocking the way they have been taught their entire life to block!
        btw, Jockel is going to be a starting tackle in this league for the next 10 years..but in no way shape or form do I view him as a trent williams, matt KLhalil type of sure shot future pro bowler. when you are picking in the top 5. anything short of drafting a pro bowler is unacceptable! I would trade back to 14 and take Chance wormack ANYDAY of the week before I take Jockel in the top 5. He is the best tackle of a very thin class (tallest midget in the room), and tackle is a very important position, so some bad team will reach for him in the top 7. Bad value if you ask me……. Like I said, he will be a good solid tackle in this league, but Trent williams, Matt Khalil, HE IS NOT!!!
        in todays NFL, most of the best teams have an extremely dangerous Freak athlete as there pass catching TE. You see the TE position has become the most important position after the QB on some great offenses (Pats, saints, cowboys)..Manti Teo is the best LB in coverage I have probably seen in the past decade. Drafting that kid would give your defense, the best chance at successfuly defending these caveman tightends..not to mention he is an interception machine out of the LB spot…most LB that are such incredible coverage guys, lose something when its time to tackle, play the run, or blitz….and thats what Makes TEO so damn special. As incredible as he is against the pass, he is just as effective against the run. Add in the leadership and intangibles that he brings to the defense…I really hope he becomes an eagle in april
        after 14 years of andy ball… I want to do and play the game the exact opposite of how andy did. A LB, is the last position Andy would ever draft with a top 5 pick….so go get me a LB with the top 5 pick! then again, if we switch to a 3-4, I dont see how we could pass up on Jarvis Jones!

        • Sean

          you do really this is the only year out of his four years at ND that he’s played well on pass defense. This year he has 7 ints and 11 pass defended while in his ENTIRE CAREER before that he had 0 picks and 6 pass defended…hardly and interception machine. and he may also be too slow to cover top tight ends definitely need to see a good 40 time out of him.

          • johnGiaM

            interception machine out of the LB spot. would you disagree with that? most people expect him to underwhelm at the combine, Im having this feeling that it will be the exact opposite. These are just pre-combine projections….of course, all our views can completely change once we see how the combine shakes up!…but for now, without there combine scores available, My wish list is as follows: 1) manti, 2) star latululelie…but if we switch to a 3-4, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO DRAFT JARVIS JONES!
            like I said, all this can change after the combine..

          • Sean

            I agree about jarvis jones but most of teo’s int’s were off deflections or just horribly thrown balls which i find is a product of the whole defense as opposed to teo himself. All this said i definitley wouldn’t be unhappy if the eagles choose him

          • johngiam

            lol wish we had someone this year that could just intercept ONE tipped ball. just saying!..Put it to you this way, as long as he doesnt BOMB at the combine, if we stay at 4-3, I would love to have him. If I cant get him, I guess I would want Star (curious to hear how you guys view him)…but if we switch to the 3-4, you just cant pass up that Demarcus ware type prospect.

        • The Guru

          I agree with everything you said until “Jarvis Jones”….even if we ran a 3-4, I’d run from him. ‘Bama exposed him. T’eo is about as “can’t miss” as you get…and with a top 5 pick, you want to minimize risk. If you stay @ 4 or 5, he’s the pick.

          • 1972

            Other than your vick rants you and john have good insight lol, but i dont like jones or teo that high.. jones doesnt play the run, and teo is a middle linebacker. we have one of those. kendricks, if utilized right is a playmaker. fletcher cox is a play maker.. we just need one playmker on the back end.. theres safties and corners projected to go high 2nd and 3rd rounds we just have to hit on them. u need to solidify this o line with a cant miss tackle.

          • The Guru

            Except we need 4 players in the secondary….Milliner is probably not worth the 4th pick, but I’d look long and hard at him too.

          • johngiam

            I actually happen to think TEO can make an incredible sam! His coveage skills on todays TE’s could be extremely valuable. I think Kendricks proved yesterday why he should have been playing at WIL the entire time, which is how every other GM across the league views him. like you said TEO is cant miss! and assuming he doesnt bomb at the combine I would be thrilled to have him!
            The defense is absolutely PUTRID! that doesnt mean it doesnt have some good parts, that cant flourish in a better coached scheme, sorrounded with some more talent. We need 2 safeties that should start in the nfl. we have none! eventally we need to find a young stud tackle to compliment fletcher who will become a star!..The key is Vinny and Graham! If they are legit impact starting Dends, then we can turn it around quickly. If we still have to find ends, then we are really far away and it will be a two year process before you have all the parts in place
            As for Jarvis…reminds me alot of JPP. Freak athletic talent, underwhelming in college. But who really knows. but I could see him going thru the charts once he OWNS the combine. just a guess tho
            how do you guys view star latulueli?

          • 1972

            latulueli is the only defensive guy that i would consider taking at 4. him and cox would collapse everthing in the middle. run and pass. he’s as relentless as cox is and weighs 20 lbs more…with star, curry , cox, and graham the pass rush would be so great we wouldnt need as much secondary help.

          • johngiam

            see my problem is I havent made up my mind, is star a Fletcher cox, or is he a Dontari Poe? I honestly have no clue…at time, I drool over star, and at other times he worries me! glad I got to atleast read 1 ringing endorsement of the kid
            btw, Fletcher is probably already the best D tackle I have seen in Philly since Jerome Brown…to think what a great year he had on such a dysfunctional team is crayz!

          • The Guru

            Star is another big risk guy. We cannot have a bust picking 4 or 5. It has to be a sure thing….which is why Teo makes the most sense.

          • 1972

            poe just ran well at the combine. He played terrible against top competition. Latulueli isnt a big risk. he’s a top 5 prospect on most peoples big board.Teo’s not a risk either, but would he be a more disruptive force on defense than star? im not sure about that

          • The Guru

            Glenn Dorsey was a top 5 prospect too. Gotta be real careful with d-lineman.

          • Johngiam

            See I think, unless TEO BOMBS at the combine, we should go after him hard. NO risk, strong young leader to build around and shut down opposing TE at the same…I chose Manti, because IMO, he is much less risky then star…but wtf do I know? Lol

        • FMWarner

          Which is it, John? Is it a “putrid” defense, or are we one Manti Te’o away from being the Steel Curtain? You’ve been saying both. I can’t endorse taking a linebacker at that spot, no matter who he is. I’d trade the pick if we get a good offer, and stock up on CB, S, and OL.

      • 1972

        no secondary player is worth the number 4 pick in this draft trust me..herramans was so so this year and hes older. Lineman (good ones) cant be picked up anywhere.. our team is a perfect example of that.. u start with the trenches then draft everthing else. theres safties and corners to be had in the later rounds

  • Sizzlechest

    You do all realize that whatever pick we end up with will be traded for 2 second rounders and a 4th or some crap like that.

  • Wilbert M.

    Joeckel is the only option that makes sense.