What They’re Saying About the Eagles

Philadelphia Eagles LB DeMeco Ryans.Here’s the weekly roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles.

The Eagles are a study in miscalculation, writes ESPN.com’s Dan Graziano:

As we look back on it now, though, not much the Eagles have done in assembling their roster over the past couple of years has worked. There’s the occasional DeMeco Ryans or Fletcher Cox, sure. The DeSean Jackson contract is a good one for them, and I don’t think it was necessarily wrong for them to spend resources this past offseason locking up cornerstone pieces like Trent Cole, LeSean McCoy and Todd Herremans for the long-term. But in terms of building a Super Bowl contender in the short term, Reid and the rest of the people who run the Eagles have failed spectacularly. The product they’ve put on the field simply isn’t as good as they believed it to be, and they are likely to pay for their run of miscalculations with their jobs.

SI.com’s Don Banks hands out midseason awards, including one to Andy Reid:

IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT AWARD — Andy Reid fires defensive coordinator Juan Castillo, fixes what ain’t broke: The Eagles’ primary problem this season hasn’t been their defense, so it was more than a bit curious for the embattled Philly head coach to lower the boom on Castillo during the team’s Week 7 bye. It wasn’t exactly a miracle cure for what ails the Eagles. That week at home against undefeated Atlanta, Philadelphia allowed the Falcons to score on their first six possessions en route to a 30-17 defeat, dropping the Eagles to 3-4 on the season. As first impressions go, new defensive coordinator Todd Bowles’ debut was a dud.

SI.com’s Peter King puts DeMeco Ryans on his midseason All-Pro team:

Rededicated himself after trade from Houston; he’s the MLB the Eagles have needed for years.

Clark Judge of CBSSports.com put out his list of midseason underachievers, which includes the Birds:

Fans in Philadelphia aren’t happy unless they have something to complain about, and there’s plenty of material here. The offense is floundering. The defense can’t make critical stops. The special teams have been a disappointment. The coach is under fire. The quarterback is under fire. The owner is under fire. In short, it’s a miserable situation. But look at that schedule, and tell me these guys can’t dig themselves out — because they can. But it’s not their opponents that’s the issue. It’s the Eagles themselves.

Brian Billick of FoxSports.com has the Eagles 22nd in his power rankings:

Another game, another pair of red-zone turnovers. I can’t recall another team that was picked to have so much success and then fail so miserably. My bad.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com has the Eagles 20th:

With that offensive line, Nick Foles might get killed if he plays. Mike Vick’s feet are essential now.

Gregg Rosenthal of NFL.com puts Reid 28th in his coach power rankings:

It’s remarkable that the Eagles are lucky to be 3-5. Firing defensive coordinator Juan Castillo was an admission of failure on one of Reid’s biggest choices, and the defense has only grown worse since.

Adam Schein of NFL.com doesn’t think Michael Vick will ever be a starter after this season:

Looking at the bigger picture, I think Vick is done. He has totally regressed as a player and a leader on this rudderless ship. As former Eagles running back Brian Westbrook told me on SiriusXM Blitz, “This team doesn’t have heart or leaders.”

After the Eagles part ways with Vick, I don’t think he’ll ever be an unquestioned starter again.

Elliot Harrison of NFL.com has the Eagles 23rd in his power rankings:

You thought Cam Newton looked defeated in recent postgame press conferences? Oh man, Andy Reid looked like a guy who had to sit through a Lifetime movie marathon on Monday night. Going 0-for-5 in the red zone will do that to a man. So will gaining 447 yards and only having 13 points to show for it. So will losing five of six games.

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk has the Eagles 25th:

They now have to go 5-3 to be just good enough to get Andy Reid fired.

ESPN.com’s Mel Kiper looks at the Eagles’ draft needs:

I don’t expect Vick to be back in 2013 (will Reid?), but we can’t just assume Nick Foles will be handed the keys because the roster has enough talent to win. The Eagles could find a QB to develop, but could they swing a trade for one, as well? Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie could be elsewhere and Nnamdi Asomugha is getting older, so corner will also need a look.

There’s no sourcing, but the crew at National Football Post thinks the Eagles could be interested in Jon Gruden:

The buzz on the street is if Andy Reid doesn’t survive in Philly, one potential replacement could be Jon Gruden. Of course Gruden worked for the Eagles as offensive coordinator before Reid arrived, and bringing him back would be a popular move. However, the rumors about Chargers management sniffing around about Gruden are off base, according to those in the know. Chargers owner Dean Spanos and general manager A.J. Smith have too much respect for Norv Turner to start looking for his replacement while he still is coaching for his job. Undermining the head coach is not Spanos’ style.

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  • saunhi

    Typical Hearsay blizzard based on the usual 2nd and 3rd and 4th hand chatter.

    I mainly only Trust the opinions of the Players themselves.

    • daveH

      what player opinions like “oh our fans are mean to us; they waste their day off and their pay to support us and yell mean things” ?
      certainly cant trust a word andy says and he’s probly already got his house on the market. marty’s words are ignorant.
      i trust Jeffeyand i think he WILL act but not yet; bet he is considering plenty of scenarios ..i give him that credit.
      BUT MOST OF ALL >>> TRUST SHEIL< TRUSTommy Lawlor & Trust DEREK!
      HA Derek! is sofa king neutralised that he hasnt even updated!!

  • JofreyRice

    I’d much rather them go after a good young coordinator than a re-tread like Gruden. Hiring a Superbowl winning coach might make a fanbase excited, but it usually doesn’t add any new bullet points onto the end of that coach’s resume.

    It’s not so much that Vick has “regressed”, it’s more that he’s just not the same athlete to bail himself out in big moments. Not only is he not getting the same pick-up when he hits the gas, but his elusiveness and balance is not the same, either. His career-long weakness of poor technical play from the pocket stands out more clearly. The line was absolutely atrocious this last game, but a lot of his problems are self-inflicted by poor awareness, pocket presence & field vision.

    The Eagles are going to look a lot different in 2013. New head coach, Vick gone, Asomugha gone, Babin gone, Jenkins gone, hopefully 2 new safeties, Watkins benched, Mudd&Washburn gone, wide 9 scrapped, Lurie with a new dimepiece, Howie with high blood pressure, etc.

    • Wilbert M.

      “…self-inflicted by poor awareness, pocket presence & field vision.” That nails it. Vick has lost all confidence. At some point, you have to play Foles to properly assess the QB situation for 2013.

      • “…self-inflicted by poor awareness, pocket presence & field vision.” lol Really? You do realize that ONLY reason there are positive plays is becasuse of his “pocket awareness, pocket presence & field vision). He has less than 2 seconds to throw the ball MOST snaps. But I know…his wounds are mostly self inflicted.

        • Wilbert M.

          Big Butt, I have to disagree with your premise. Vick’s pocket presence and awareness is horrible – he doesn’t feel the pressure and is frequently moving into the rush instead of stepping away. When he runs he sometimes misses the opening that could lead to a bigger gain. Field vision is also bad as evidenced by the missed open receivers. It’s one bad decision after another. The All-22 analyses are all you need to see for proof.

          • JofreyRice

            The difference between Vick & someone like Brady or Brees is tremendous. Those guys have nuanced movement in the pocket to sidestep pressure and buy an extra half-second to deliver the football–Brees did it to Trent Cole in this last game, to our collective frustration.

            NFL films guru Greg Cosell likens it to the ability to move around in an area the size of a boxing ring, while keeping your eyes down the field, and then deliver the football with proper mechanics. The best QB’s can do that, and play within their system, with limited mobility–guys like Brady, both Mannings, Marino, etc. Vick makes some amazingly athletic moves, but flips his “open-field” switch, and starts moving erratically. Sometimes he can get lucky and make a play with his legs, but you’re not going to win like that week to week–let alone a championship. Most often, the play breaks down, or he takes off for a short gain, while leaving a lot of yards on the field because he tucked it and ran. This season, the problems on the OLine are exacerbating that problem, but the data & tape breakdowns clearly show Vick is holding it far too long, and missing reads when given the opportunity by the line.

            Vick fans are simply not going to accept this. We saw the same thing with the end of McNabb era, and revisiting those endless arguments is not an enticing proposition. I’m content to let it play out next year, when Vick is with a new team.

        • JofreyRice

          I doubt there are many arguments I could make to sway your opinion, and I think this is the point in the season where people have assigned blame and started to dig in to their positions. Vick will not be the quarterback of the Eagles next year. I’m sure you’ll monitor his play with his new team, if he’s signed as a starter. I encourage you to interrogate your assumptions and opinions, even if it’s somewhat uncomfortable.

  • big red hater

    wonder when the media will begin to write about how bad our owner is. Jeff Lurie is a disgrace and a national embarrassment. He lacks courage on every level, afraid to fire Reid, afraid to say no to bringing Vick in, afraid to over-rule Reid on Castillo. He cannot act in a crisis, afraid to make a move while the city suffers.