Show Biz: Jon + Kate + 8 = $$$

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And so, perhaps inevitably, the official Jon and Kate backlash has begun. In earnest. As they so often do, Internet bloggers have led the charge, asking tough questions about favoritism by Jon and Kate to some of the kids, the ominous tone behind the couple’s playful on-camera bickering, Kate’s frequent shrewishness, and — most persistently — the sudden disappearance from the show of Kate’s sister-in-law and dutiful babysitter, sweet “Aunt Jodi.” Ground zero for such discussions is Gosselins Without Pity, a site that’s taken on an almost religious zeal in its mission to expose the underbelly of TV’s happiest family. The brickbats are surprisingly well-written and thought-out, and even for the newly initiated, the arguments are hard to refute. The site has surpassed two million page views; posts are made almost daily, with most generating hundreds of comments.

The criticism has spread beyond the ’Net. Kate’s battleax behavior has made her every husband’s nightmare and consequently the butt of pop culture jokes, too. On their syndicated radio show, the notorious Opie & Anthony called her “a capital C” and her marriage “loveless,” as men whose DVRs have been taken over by their wives’ and girlfriends’ obsession with the show lit up the phone lines. The Soup’s Joel McHale can’t seem to get over the way Kate regularly emasculates Jon, calling her “­Katezilla” while highlighting a recent episode in which she berates Jon for forgetting to use a coupon, and hypothesizing about a spin-off: Jon Minus Nine. In October, Paul Petersen, a former child actor from The Donna Reed Show who advocates for child stars, delivered a blistering attack while on CNN, arguing that “children need secrets, they need silences.” In California, Jon & Kate Plus 8 as it exists today would be highly illegal, explains Petersen, because of the state’s extensive protections for all kids on camera, scripted or reality. But Pennsylvania doesn’t offer similar protections. TLC has installed studio lighting throughout the Elizabethtown house, illuminating it, a neighbor says, so that “you could see it from space.” And while Kate contends in one episode that the kids have been living with cameras since infancy, “so they don’t think anything of it,” a recent episode showed a close-up of a child-drawn sign reading “Stay owt with camras.”

None of this comes as a surprise to David Rothermel. Owner of a custom cabinetry business in Lancaster County, he was Jon’s boss (and a friend of Jon’s parents) during Kate’s second pregnancy. He’s the guy singled out during Jon and Kate’s speaking engagements as the man who “did not want to insure [Jon] … they let him go.” However, Rothermel says — and supporting documents prove — that Jon Gosselin was fired for other reasons. The state unemployment office ruled that Jon improperly did a side job on company time; furthermore, Rothermel claims that before the babies were even born, Jon was on the phone and the Internet soliciting freebies, boasting openly that he was never going to have to work again. Indeed, the Gosselin family website, Sixgosselins.com, was registered before the babies were born, and later featured a “Prayer List” of wants — a 15-­passenger van, “a house that we fit into and can afford … it’s going to literally take a miracle” — along with a “Praise List” with the names of folks and companies and the supplies they’d donated. When the babies were six months old, family members, friends and neighbors got a letter containing the Gosselins’ account number with the electric company, in case anyone felt moved to pay the couple’s bill. (A TLC spokeswoman says the letter came from friends looking to help the Gosselins.)


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The laws in PA need to change
Posted by amanda | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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Great article! I was particularly glad to see Jon's ex boss speak up and tell the real reason why Jon was fired. I knew they were lying about the whole thing. When will people wake up? I have not watched in months and I hope others stop as well. These children should not be treated as a product. Of course as Jon said in a recent article his kids are "marketable". UGGGH! How can people support these sleeze-bags.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
Posted by Bev | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM
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I can see Hollywood having to adopt a Gosselin's Law - ala Coogan's Law - to ensure children in reality shows are PROTECTED!!! Time limits for filming, trust funds for the monies, psychological/counseling available with tutoring.... remember they are nothing MORE than a modern Dionne Quintuplets. "Multiple Births should not be confused with entertainment"!!!
Christine
Posted by Christine | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM
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I can't believe this is the article that was touted on the anti-Gosselin blogs for months. This it IT? All your pleas for people to anonymously send you dirt on the family and this is all we get? I'm sorely disappointed in this story, we were promised it would bring the family down and an article of gossip won't do it.
TLC - if you are reading this....
Posted by Jen | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM
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Know that I have STOPPED watching this children exploitation - the only information missing from this article is how Jon and Kate don't even officially work anymore. How else can you explain away it all? Obviously the monies from the show and the DVD sales bought that new house.... but it was on the backs of those innocent children. The J&K effect must stop.
Important Article
Posted by Elizabeth | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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Since PA laws won't protect the 8 Gosselin children perhaps articles like this will help reveal the reality behind this reality show. There is NO difference between the Gosselins choosing fertility treatment (against doctor's advice) and Nadya Suleman in that both were in no financial situation whatsoever to afford additional children. Yet Kate is put on a pedestal by Dr. Phil who vilifies Nadya Suleman. The Gosselin parents humiliate, belittle and embarrass their children and demean each other. Terrible parenting.
The Truth Hurts
Posted by Nancy | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:10 AM
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Fans won't like this article, because the truth hurts. The Gosselins are not as sweet as their fans want them to be, are they......
Thank you to all who contributed
Posted by Barb | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM
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Thank you to all who contributed to this article. It is a great start and hopefully more people will feel they need to come forward to put a stop to what I feel has become out of control and unrealistic - the Gosselin family, TLC (and all of their cohorts - production companies, product placement companies, etc.), 'reality TV'... And maybe more people will stop contributing to this voyeurism that is called 'reality TV'. It's not good for adults but it is absolutely horrific for children to be subjected to.
Enough is enough....stop this show
Posted by Jennifer | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM
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It certainly is sad to see the Gosselin children these days. They seem overwhelmed and miserable. I hope the parents or at the very least TLC, pulls the plug on this trainwreck soon. The children are being unfairly damaged by all this publicity, while their parents just like raking in the dough...it's digusting.
Such a weak article
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:18 PM
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As a writer who is so clearly biased and affiliated with the worst of the worst biased hate blogs out there, it's hard to take you seriously. Why single out one hate blog when there are numerous blogs on either side of the issue to cite? This article is sorely lacking in facts and heavy on sour grapes and gossip. Hardly what I would call "news."
Truth matters
Posted by Janice | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:36 PM
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Why is Jon and Kate Gosselin still going to churches when they don't need the money anymore? Why do they lie about why Jon was fired? And Jon bragging about never having to work again when she was pregnant with the tups? Well, neither Jon nor Kate have a job now.
Great Article .. Keep doing what you do!!!!
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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I loved the article and I think that it is good that these people have been exposed as to what they are really doing to those kids. Those kids need to be able to live a normal life regardless of the fact that they have been under the media's eye since birth. The parents are using them to make money and that is sad. Stop Watching!!!
Poor Journalism
Posted by Sonia | Feb. 25, 2009 at 11:55 AM
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As a journalist I am disappointed in this article. This piece is written more as a editorial and lacks the sources to even make it seem like a real news piece. And by the way, I checked out that Gosselins without a Pity site and found it to be more like a bunch of bitter chackling women than people with any real concern. With one section that has more than 1000+ comments mostly about fridge and why she is cleaning it. Clearly as a journalist you need to go back to school and take journalism 101. And by the way, I am not a fan of Jon and Kate, just someone who is tired of biased articles by people who clearly do no research except on websites.
The Article is not Weak
Posted by Michelle | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM
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This article will start the ball rolling. There are irrefutable facts that contradict what J&K have publically said is true. You don't need blogs on "either side of the issue". There is no issue. The Gosselin kids were set up from the get-go to make money for their non-working parents. Period.
What does this prove?
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM
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So this is the much-awaited article from Jessica. There is not one line of it that hasn't already been posted on the internet at other sites. Compilations are a dime a dozen on the internet. The author might have done some research on the Paul Petersen quote. CNN is not the first place that he used it. Why didn't Jessica talk to Julie? She couldn't have.
Thank you for TELLING THE TRUTH
Posted by Andi | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM
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Finally, somebody isn't kissing Kate's behind and saying "how do you do it!"She doesn't do it. She has "helpers" and she's away most the time.Thanks again!
Dear Jon and Kate,
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM
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It is obvious that either you or your PR team posts on comment sections such as this to "defend" your choices.Unfortunately, it does not change the truth or the hard facts that are out there. If anyone takes a stroll down your old website, you can clearly see a pattern of taking and begging. Yes I realize you have 8 children. Yes I realize you were financially struggling (who isn't these days?). I know several families with 6-8 children (many of them special needs). These families work and manage to provide for their families without needing a reality show and without selling pictures or books of pictures of their children. We all walk different paths in life. We are all handed different hands of cards. I understand that. However, we must keep our feet on the ground and stay focused on what's important. In the end, all of the accumulations of earthly "blessings" will not matter. It will only matter if you helped the least of your brothers. Please stop lying about your st
Poor Journalism
Posted by Jennifer | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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"The brickbats are surprisingly well-written and thought-out" - you lost your creditability there. GWOP is a sewer and the laughingstock of several other message boards and blogs for its incessant, hysterical attacks on the Gosselin family. And not just Jon and Kate - among the "advocates", there are a number of posters who denigrate the children, calling them fat, suggesting that they will be serial killers when they grow up, etc.There’s a thoughtful discussion to be had about the show and the ethics of putting your children on TV, but it is not happening at GWOP, nor has it ever (they’d rather talk about Kate’s hair and Jon’s testicles or lack thereof). Your piece is long on innuendo and short on fact – for example, you reference but do not detail Beth Carson’s supposed “unpleasant departure” from the show. Even the loonies at GWOP have not come up with any explanation for her absence from the show, and they are not shy about making things up and calling it fact. If you know
They Continue to Lie
Posted by Alison | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:11 PM
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I am SO happy that Jon's former employer spoke out and told the truth. It should have happened a long time ago. Thank you for the article. Yes, a lot of it has been discussed online for quite some time, but the firing situation always seemed suspicious to me. Will be interesting to see the Gosselin's spin on this . . .
Gosselins Hatred
Posted by Tammy | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:01 PM
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Don't hate the player, hate the game. Meaning don't hate the journalist who wrote this piece, hate the Gosselins for choosing to live a life that hurts and belittles their own flesh and blood.
Poor Journalism Judgement
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM
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Its funny that someone such as "Sonia" who is proclaiming herself be a real journalist and couldn't read the first line of the story saying, "IT'S A CHILLY Saturday at the First Assembly of God church in upstate Marcy, New York, but the commotion seems more like Christmas morning." I suppose that research was done solely online. I guess that the journalist who wrote this story could go and take journalism 101 at the same community college that you did so that she could spend her Wednesday afternoons responding to articles rather than actually writing them herself. Obviously this person in an advocate for the show or at least Jon and Kate and chooses to bash a writer rather than rebut the facts listed. Good job to the journalist who wrote this story. I'm glad that people are finally getting informed of how these children are really treated.
It Didn't Take Long
Posted by Jennifer | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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Ah, we already have the nutjobs insisting that anyone who doesn't subscribe to their latest crackpot theories (e.g. Jon is an adulterer, Kate is an anorexic pill-popper) must be part of their "PR team". Ridiculous.I'll bow out shortly b/c I know that I can't win an argument against 10 housebound women on "disability" with an endless amount of hatred for total strangers and nothing better to do than post over and over to make it look like they represent a much larger group than they do.
oh ladies...
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:04 PM
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Note to GDNNOP: Jealousy is an ugly, ugly thing.
Thank You.
Posted by Teresa | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:18 PM
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Now if they would only change the laws in Pennsylvania someone could put an end to this horrible show and give those kids back their privacy.
Awesome story!
Posted by Kristin | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:07 PM
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Great story Jess! It's nice to finally see the truth behind J&K, that you only get glimpses of during those wonderfully produced shows!
ROFL
Posted by Dorie | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM
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Jessica you have made a lot of Kate fans angry, lol. But by writing this article hopefully laws will change in Penn and someone in authority will do something to help the kids. Jon and Kate are money hungry greedy parents who would sell their kids souls to the devil if it meant they could get another free trip or mansion. Thank you for stepping up to the plate and writing and honest and truthful article. You rock!
Grow a Pair.....
Posted by Kelly | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM
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I keep hoping Jon sprouts a new set and finally - finally - tells Kate to STFU
Jennifer?
Posted by Alison | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:23 PM
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Hey, I'm not housebound. I work in a law firm. I'm on my lunchbreak catching up on some reading. I want to ask you, how do you defend Jon Gosselin stating that he was fired due to his employer not wanting to insure his family? They've used that speech all over the country. What do you think about that? I honestly want to know, since you are defending them. I think they are liars. I don't post anywhere else, BTW. I've just thought something was wrong with this family for a while and did a little search on my own.
Pardon me, Jennifer
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM
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"Even the loonies at GWOP have not come up with any explanation for her absence from the show, and they are not shy about making things up and calling it fact."Besides the obvious fact you contradict YOURSElF with this one sentence, how do you know they don't know the ENTIRE story but have committed and honored a request not to disclose the details? You don't. In fact, there's SO MUCH you don't know.
About Time
Posted by Mary | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:13 PM
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I've been worried about the effects of this show on the children (and the increasingly weird behavior of their mother) for some time. I am not affiliated with nor have I ever posted on GWOP but I do read there. They are not as "Jennifer" portrays them, but are genuinely concerned about the children and they do not allow calling the children names, etc. My wish is for the Gosselin family to get serious marriage and family counseling for the strain this filming has put on them. I also wish for a reconciliation with their extended families. This is not a healthy situation for any of them. Thank you for printing this story.
Ownership of the new home....
Posted by Tall | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM
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I believe the new home is titled in the name of a REVOCABLE trust - meaning once the publicity has died down - Jon & Kate can "revoke" the trust & put everything in their name - and not the kids. Pitiful & something should be done to protect the ones that have EARNED the house their parents are living in.
Jessica Is Awesome!
Posted by Xupris | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:27 PM
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Thank You. I waited patiently for this article to appear. You did a wonderful job. I can't believe Jon was lying all this time about being fired from his job but thanks to you and your hard work another Gosselin lie has been exposed. Please keep continue about the Gosselins.
Some good research, but some reliance on innuendo
Posted by Lourdes | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:18 PM
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I'm glad to read attributed comments from the disgruntled Ohio speaker-booker and Jon's former boss. These non-anonymous facts are what's needed in the dissection of the Gosselin phenomenon. But I'm dissapointed in the usage of gossip sites--and media reports that discuss the gossip site--as "sources." Did the writer not try to contact Jodi and Beth to get the true stories?
Seriously, it MUST be bloggers' faults...CAN'T be the Gosselins!
Posted by Jen | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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Yep, it must all be we terrible "haters"....can't be that Jon and Kate have been lying for years. Can't be that Jon and Kate have had their hands out for years. Can't be that Kate (particularly) has brought on the bulk of the criticism with her horrible treatment of her husband on air. Can't be that even fans who have met her have been sorrowly disappointed in how rude she is. Nope...it MUST be bloggers who don't like her. Yep...logical to a fault the stalker fans are. There are obviously people whom you can say, "The sky is blue" and they will say, "It's yellow and it's all your fault!" Wake up people...what more do you need?
WOW!
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM
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Finally a truthful article on what the Gosselins are really up to....Everyone says the Gosselins don't have a job but I say they do....Scamming and begging could be considered a job. Just saying. I really wish Aunt Jodi would tell us what really happened. In fact it would have been great if any family member would have come to their defense. Their silence speaks volumes, tho.
FINALLY!!!!
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM
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Finally an article exposing these two sell-out morons for what they are REALLY doing. Greedy, no good jerks. Karma will surely get them in the end.
Can't Really Blame Them...
Posted by Caitlin | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:43 PM
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If someone said to me "Here's a bunch of money and free stuff. Let us film your family." I'd say okay! I see them pack for trips on this show and she has to pack like 900 outfits and two weeks worth of food to last only 3 days. Despite everything that's given to them, I wouldn't say they live on easy street. I just worry that the kids will turn into fame whores. You can already tell that the popularity of the show has gone to Kate's head. I just hope their kids stay grounded. If I had 8 kids under the age of 9, I'd need a little help, too.... Great article, Jess.
Question to Ponder
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM
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With Jon and Kate Gosselin jetting all over the country to give "advice" and speak about sandwich making and coupon clipping, why the heck would they not take an opportunity to give their side of the story? It's not like they don't want the publicity. They seek out publicity. They, or their family, should defend them, if they can. I think basing the "firing" story on such a lie might unravel their whole master plan. Idiots. LOL
kacey
Posted by Kacey | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM
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GWOP is a crappy website run and used by a bunch of utter whackjobs who are the most hateful, jealous, judgemental "Christians" I've ever come across. The worst part is that they do in fact have a valid point - the show has drifted quite a ways from its original premise and maybe it's time to end the series - but what does that have to do with Kate's weight, her visible foundation line, or her hair? This article is based on a website where those nutters believe Kate used her nursing connections to score Clomid, overstimulated her ovaries, and basically raped Jon in order to get knocked up with multiples and end up where they are today. WTF?
Churches who paid $25,000 for a pack of lies? I'd be ticked!
Posted by Jen | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM
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Just wondering how those churches and other groups who paid $25,000 plus first-class airfare, first-class accomodations and security are thinking now that they may have learned that their sob story of poverty was not caused by a terrible employer who fired Jon for insurance reasons, but because he was stealing company time and begging for handouts?I'd be thinking I was defrauded...not to mention the heat the churches took for hosting them in the first place! Can you imagine the outcry now that it has been confirmed that the lied, and did so to gain sympathy and handouts? Not to mention, true Christian Kate, lying in a house of God.

Posted by Renee | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:40 PM
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Prove to us that Katie Irene didn't "use[d] her nursing connections to score Clomid, overstimulated her ovaries, and basically raped Jon in order to get knocked up with multiples and end up where they are today." No ethical doctor would have proceeded with her treatment had she not have known what was going on. They didn't GAMBLE, she knew what she was doing all along. She doesn't address her "condition" much and when questioned about it, changes the subject in a hurry! Makes you wonder.
Ticked Off Churches
Posted by Christie | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM
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Well if they spoke to God and God told them not to go to the lower paying engagements, who were they to say no? After all, their God is a greedy God. Just saying.
Money means that much to you???
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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"Here's a bunch of money and free stuff. Let us film your family." I'd say okay!" = having your child filmed with his father using an old, used, dirty plastic bag to extract a turd from his behind for all the world to see? Really? Money means that much to you? Just have to wonder how Collin will feel about that when he's 15 or so. Some people put an awful low price tag on their children's dignity.
Reason for firing
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM
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Do you GWOPpers really believe his employer would come right out and say he was firing him because of insurance reasons? Wouldn't that be illegal? Wouldn't he find another reason to fire him while everyone knew what really happened?
Proud GWOP Member
Posted by Andi | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM
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Jennifer, please show a link from GWOP where kids are called "fat".The only place I have seen the kids criticized is on the TV show by theirMother. Please, find the link. I've read most of what is there and have NEVER seen anything insulting the children personally. Post the link . . . .I'd much rather be a GWOP "loonie" than celebrate and condone kids being exploited. Kids are not a product and it is not THEIR responsibility to assure their parents never have to work again.
HELLLLLLLLO Kacey (thought that might get your attention)
Posted by Roxanne | Feb. 25, 2009 at 12:57 PM
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utter whackjobs who are the most hateful, jealous, judgemental "Christians" I've ever come across. Really? Because Kate is the perfect example of what I would want in a Christian. Liar, hateful, mean, entitled. Just want I want in a Christian role model.Look this woman had 8 children, whoopy doo.....she didn't cure cancer, she doesn't give any of us new advice, she whines more than anybody else I have ever encountered and thinks everyone around her should bow down to her. Is this the type of person you want to be like or your children?I don't know anything about GWOP but I'm here to tell you, anyone who advocates for those children, have my blessing.
Isn't that the Truth?
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:48 PM
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I've heard Kate refer to her daughter, Mady, as being ugly and hateful. I've heard her, on the show, mock almost all of her children, except for Hannah. They're doing the show - they know people are going to discuss the show. How about pull out of the show and give the kids some privacy? Maybe then the criticism of the kids would stop. From the public, not from Kate. That will continue for the rest of Kate's life. Jon's former employer should sue them. Take all the money they have and put it in a trust for the 8 working Gosselins. Let Jon and Kate work for awhile. What a disgusting duo they are.
Pure Hatred Comes Mostly From "Fans "
Posted by Mack | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM
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I've always tried to remain on the fence regarding the Gosselins. But everytime a debate between the camps of the fans and critics breaks out, I see that most of the vile hatred comes from the folks who purportedly defend the Gosselins. The critics critique what they see on tv. The fans, however, muster up every ounce of mudslinging venom they can find and verbally attack people they don't know and have never seen in their lives. Jon and Kate Gosselin have some very nasty, mean-spirited fans and it just baffles the crap out of me that they cry "Stop Judging" when they do it more than anybody. I'd be embarrassed if I were you and terribly ashamed that your obsession is more with GWoP than they show itself. When you write your own magazine article with valid proof that defends the Gosselins, perhaps I'll listen. Until then, go take your meds and get some counseling.
Reason for firing - Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM
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"However, Rothermel says — AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS PROVE — that Jon Gosselin was fired for other reasons. The STATE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE RULED that Jon improperly did a side job on company time"What part of this FACT is it you don't get?
They Brought It On Themselves
Posted by Tracey | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM
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I was surprised nothing was mentioned that either set of grandparents are not involved with these kids. Even the two "NaNa's" that were involved with laundry and babysitting duties are never seen. We were told that "you don't have to be blood to love our children", but I guess if you come bearing gifts, products, services, trips and $$$ you get access to the kids. Keep watching, the twins are being shown less and less and when they are they are throwing some sort of hissy fit and even some of the tups are asking "what are you looking at?" I can't wait for a follow up in ten years about the kids. I bet they aren't anywhere near as normal and nice as the Dilley Six.
Anonymous Sheeple (afraid to use names, perhaps??)
Posted by Andi | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:53 PM
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You are so right. John's ex-employer is a bad man and Jon is a GREAT employee. This is all HIS fault. In fact, he's a liar and Jon NEVER lies, normally.Have you all sent in your "love offerings" because the lawsuits will be arriving soon and Kate needs pedicures for her little girls. I swear, Kate could KILL A PUPPY on camera and the ignorant GDNOP stalkers would say, "well, it wasn't really a cute puppy and she was stressed, after all SHE HAS 8 kids and 6 oF THEM ARE THE SAME AGE!!" Sad really.
what a scam
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:55 PM
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Too bad for the Gosselins Rothermel and the state unemployment office arent bound by the same confidentiality clauses her fertility doctors are. She better hope that true story never sees the light of day.
HELLLLLLLLLO Roxanne
Posted by Kacey | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:07 PM
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I didn't say a thing about making Kate your own personal role model or an example to your kids. I didn't say anything about what Kate being a good Christian or not. My point was this - what does her appearance, her weight fluctuations/hair do mistakes/visible makeup lines have to do with child advocacy?
GWOP is NOT a reliable source
Posted by Beth | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM
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...The writer sought input ONLY from the major Gosselin hate blogs... as this the article shows. GWOOP's premise has switched from advocacy for the children to doing whatever they can to destroy the careers of the Gosselins. Their underlying jealousy is so transparent...
Excellent article
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:13 PM
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Thank you for your well written, well-balanced article. I watched for many years, sometimes with trepidation due to Kate's irrational behaviour about gum, cupcake mess, treatment of her husband, etc. I love the children. I pray for this family. I think they have sold something very precious.
Kacey
Posted by Mary | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:02 PM
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Those things don't have a thing to do with child advocacy. But what do you think about all the valid points made as to the child exploitation and the needless stress in these young children's lives? Your argument doesn't hold any more weight than do the arguments about Kate's appearance. It's not EVERY poster over there talking about Kate's appearance so your comments are just smoke screens.
Not Housebound
Posted by Virginia | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:13 PM
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I also am not housebound, but I work as a lawyer in Washington, DC. Never on the GWOP site has anyone attacked the children to my knowledge. If it has been written that Mady was sorely in need of counseling or help, it was followed by a statement that her behavior was not her fault and stemmed from.... you see where I'm going? I, for one, resent the remark that 10 women who, what, are agorphobic are writing the millions of postings concerning their views on the Gosselins. Yes, they judge, and you are judging. Jon & Kate put themselves on TV for all to view. They didn't think they would be judged?
Jealousy....ah, yes the only defense people can come up with
Posted by Jen | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:06 PM
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In case you haven't yet seen the light, let me make this as easy to understand as possible. The people who dislike Kate were not the ones to act like a nut on tv, that was Kate. The people who dislike Kate were not the ones lying to churches. That was Kate. The people who dislike Kate were not the ones mocking the children and showing them half naked on television. That was Kate. Let's put it all together now, shall we? Kate, Kate and oh yes, KATE. You can't create this stuff out of thin air. Jon and Kate created this situation. Why is that so hard to understand? I'm sorry but these "jealous" complaints and other nonsense are making some of you look quite foolish. If you like the show, like it...who cares? Why must the "fans" come out and attack people who feel differently? If you have nothing to worry about and Kate is really the end all and be all that you want her to be, why should you care what someone else thinks? Nervous?

Posted by !HURRY! a GWOP FAN | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM
COMMENT:
Hi Jessica. Just read you article and have to say I enjoyed every.single.word. BTW I clicked the subscribe button for this mag. If they hire excellent reporters like you then I will show my support by subscribing and hopefully will be able to read more articles by you. Please do a follow up in a couple of months!
Hellllllllloo Kacey
Posted by Roxanne | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM
COMMENT:
what does her appearance, her weight fluctuations/hair do mistakes/visible makeup lines have to do with child advocacy? I have no idea what you are referring to with that comment; however, if Kate feels the need to put her family out there because "their life is the show and the show is their life" You better believe her "fans" or "viewers" have the right to critique her. She puts herself before her children ALL THE TIME on national television (clear to see after last night's episode) and people still claim she is the mother of the year. WHY? That is what I was getting at. There are millions of mothers out there that deserve that "title." Who actually wouldn't dream of ridiculing their children like she does. She does it for show and entertainment purposes. What people forget is that this is NOT a show, these are real people, more importantly, REAL CHILDREN. They will never get back their childhood. NEVER.
"Kacey"
Posted by Nancy | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM
COMMENT:
Kacey, I can answer that question. Kate looks NOTHING like she did when the show first aired. She's a diva celebrity now, celebrity being the key word ( mothering now takes a backseat ). In America, celebrities are critiqued on their beauty or lack thereof. It is painfully obvious she ( Kate ) is channeling Hollywood through changing her appearance, so to me, that makes her fair game for judging. You go on tv and scream "Everybody Look At Me Me Me"...and you can bet your boots people are going to do it even if they don't like what they see. If you can tell me you have never critiqued a celebrity's appearance, I will stand to be corrected. Oh, and Kacey ( really BabyMomma or one of her cronies ), I thought of your posts immediately when I read the one about how vile the fans are. Just sayin'.
Someone speaks the TRUTH...Finally.
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:15 PM
COMMENT:
hmmmm - what will kate say now at her speaking engagements about jon's employment? $1600 for a bodyguard? who does kate think she is 'madonna'?lol the one thing i really love is that queen kate has to fly first class all the way. while all her fan's are forking over $20 cash for a pic queen kate flys first class, gimme me a break!
Thank you for the truth!
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM
COMMENT:
Actually it doesn't take a blog to figure these two out. It takes a brain and two eyes and watching their trainwreck shows for the past year. I finally had to quit watching but not before seeing their children's privacy invaded in "every" form. If you read their many interviews you will find that Jon and Kate contradict themselves time and again (they can't help but trip up on their lies), and just one look at Cara's face or Mady's behavior will tell you what they have done to their children. Further I do not understand why any church would sanction Kate's behavior towards her husband. Actually I think that is part of their popularity. People love to believe that if Kate can make a fool out of her husband on TV, they can justify how they treat their own spouses. It's sad, really. I would like to know who the "average viewer" is who relates to a $1.3 million dollar home, an organic chef, spa visits, free trips, and freebies galore! I wish you could have touched more on the issue
Ahahahahahahaha
Posted by Linda | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:22 PM
COMMENT:
Cracks me the hell up that the fans only knew this article existed because they stalk GWoP every second of the day and saw it posted. Now who needs to get a life? I think the fans and Kon's PR team spend more time at GWoP than the critics do. Those goats can't even have a pro- Gosselin forum without ever mentioning what they read at GWoP. They talk about GWoP more than they do the Gosselins, and are far more hateful and nasty than anybody.
whats new
Posted by J.J. | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:33 PM
COMMENT:
this is nothing we didn't already know, as far as Jodi, well she's about as bright as The Soup.You ppl need to get real if your going to write an article, write some thing we ahve not heard a million times, and my lord tell the truth
You gwoppers are so full of crap
Posted by julie | Feb. 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM
COMMENT:
"what does her appearance, her weight fluctuations/hair do mistakes/visible makeup lines have to do with child advocacy? I have no idea what you are referring to with that comment;Ha! That's a laugh.
Yeah GWoP
Posted by J.J. | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:38 PM
COMMENT:
GWoP is the worst site on the net, give us a break please, They are stalkers and liars, couldn't tell the truth if their life depended on it, but you are right a lot of dumbies do read it, can't comment on it tho, What I know of GWoP is from reading what others have come back and posted like we care, Garbage in, garbage out, thats GWoP for ya,

Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:45 PM
COMMENT:
Because the money she is making off her kids has changed her appearance.
In case anyone was wondering.....
Posted by Jen | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM
COMMENT:
"Me thinks dost thou protest too much".....In other words, the so-called fans who have come here to Her Highness' defense have not really talked about the article but have simply attacked people who don't like the Gosselins and/or the show. It's rather telling if you ask me. The truth, or at least the beginning of it, clearly hurts.
BUSTED!
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM
COMMENT:
Wow, these two have gone from a cute couple, to an obnoxious infomercial of a show. Hopefully after this, others will begin to talk about the REAL Gosselins. Thanks for your informative article!!
Well, SOMEBODY'S reading it!
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM
COMMENT:
And thank goodness people are reading GWop! Sad thing is, one day the Gosselin kids may get their hands on it and read it . . . they're gonna freak out and they're gonna ask mommy and daddy (if they're still talking to them) why they didn't do something about it, like shut down the filming of their childhoods! Jon and Kate Gosselin are just greedy, lazy, immature people who fell into TLC's web and no matter the cost, they don't want to get out. They seem to say, "To hell with the kids! Someone get in here and take care of them!"
Bottom line....
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:48 PM
COMMENT:
Here's the bottom line of all the controversy. The kids need laws protecting their privacy. There are currently no laws in PA that do so. The Gosselin children have no say in what private moments in their lives get aired to millions of Americans. Children need privacy. They need to be protected (by their parents). They are not. The parents are selling a book filled with pictures of their children. How can one justify this? Please stop with the jealous garbage. If anyone should be jealous, it's the Gosselin children who are justified in being jealous of other children who's parents DON'T sell their privacy :(
Wow
Posted by SusieQ | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:48 PM
COMMENT:
Wow - I had never heard of this GWOP site but just over the last couple of hours reading, I feel like I have found MY PEOPLE! I always knew there was something 'off' about these two. Thank God it wasn't just me. Thank you so much for posting the page! Now I have someone to talk to about these whack jobs Jon and Kate besides the mind-numbing gibberish I get from the wackadoodle-enthralled-with-the-glamour-park-mommies I run into every Tuesday morning. FINALLY people with sense!
Well Done
Posted by Courtney | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM
COMMENT:
Finally, someone in the media did some research, and is starting to call Jon and Kate on their deceit and the exploitation of their children.
When Kate's Away, Jonny Boy Plays
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:51 PM
COMMENT:
I can only imagine what Jon is going through at home now that his pictures with women in bars has been spread all over the internet. Ever heard of karma, Jon and Kate? It is is bitch...like Kate!
Um, Nancy?
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:04 PM
COMMENT:
I'm pretty sure the point was that her appearance has nothing to do with child advocacy. In fact, very little of what is said at gwop has anything to do with the kids. It's snark, and snark is fine, but just call it what it is instead of trying to pretend you're on some noble mission.Gwop is a joke, and all of you who truly do care about the G kids have the mods to thank for that. They are more concerned with blog hits as evident by the endless crap that they post. My advice would be, for those who really do care, start your own blog and really try to help these kids if you think they need it. Try to gain a little bit of credibility and maybe people will stop laughing and pay attention.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
Posted by Kris | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM
COMMENT:
You are an angel. I cannot thank you enough for researching and writing such an in depth expose on the Gosselin family. I ache for the kids. I have refused to watch this show for a year now, ever since I watched in horror as Kate put down her boys in such humiliating fashion. Those poor kids are having every aspect of their lives documented and no on can convince me that they haven't paid dearly for it.Shame on you Jon and Kate. Shame on you.
The truth is coming
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:06 PM
COMMENT:
I really don't understand all the hate about GWOP. Remember back when TWOP was where everyone posted their feelings? GWOP actually picked up where TWOP left off and created an amazing site overall. There are many spinoffs but where would all these other overnight blogs be without GWOP? This article that was published today is only the beginning of the Gosselin empire.
It's easier to kill the messenger....
Posted by Jen | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:16 PM
COMMENT:
The reason why the people who defend Jon and Kate are always on the attack against people who post their unfavorable opinions about Jon and Kate is because it's easier to attack the messenger than it is to refute the message. If the "fans" who are attacking people from various sites (or, simply assuming that anyone with a negative opinion is from said site) have anything to say that refutes the data in the article then why not post it? Clearly this writer did her research, attended an appearance and interviewed the former employer and a few former acquaintances. What facts and or dispute does anyone have with what was written? Because it seems as though the party line from the "fan" sites is to attack, attack, attack anyone who disagrees with the Gosselins and what they have done, but they have, so far, not been able to prove the negative accounts and facts as lies. If you have some differing information or accounts, and can prove that all of these people who have concerns or who have
Plays In Utah
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:19 PM
COMMENT:
PA isnt the only place Jonny Boy goes out to the bars. You both are laughing stocks and worst part is your kids have you 2 as parents.
Continuing my comment on killing the messenger....
Posted by Jen | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:10 PM
COMMENT:
If you have some differing information or accounts, and can prove that all of these people who have concerns or who have had negative experiences with the Gosselins, then why not write your own article and do your own interviews. It does not do YOUR cause any justice by coming here foaming at the mouth anytime someone has a negative comment about the Gosselins. The reason why they won't is because it's much easier to just attack people with whom they've never even had a conversation than it would be to go the extra mile and prove this article inaccurate. Attacking the messenger while resoundingly ignoring the message is a classic sign of someone who is upset about the truth coming out and has no other defense.
EXACTLY
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:11 PM
COMMENT:
"What facts and or dispute does anyone have with what was written? Because it seems as though the party line from the "fan" sites is to attack, attack, attack anyone who disagrees with the Gosselins and what they have done, but they have, so far, not been able to prove the negative accounts and facts as lies." .... BINGO. I have never once read one logical defense of the Gosselins.
Well . . .
Posted by Alison | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM
COMMENT:
They had a good run.LOL
good article
Posted by K | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:17 PM
COMMENT:
I don't care about GWOP, and I certainly think some of the fans of this show are a bit off their rockers, but I found this to be a pretty interesting article. I used to love this show until all of the vacations came along. It's not about cute kids and the parents who struggle to raise them anymore. It's about Kate Gosselin being INCONVENIENCED by cute kids and the vacations she goes on for the sake of the show. The show just isn't fun anymore.
Protect Your Children
Posted by dianne | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM
COMMENT:
Jon & Kate, You have to know that some of your shows biggest fans are MEN who love to watch your children. STOP NOW!!!
OMG
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM
COMMENT:
"Jon & Kate, you have to know that some of your shows biggest fans are MEN who love to watch your children. STOP NOW!!!"But, but, but . . . we have a PICTURE BOOK of the kids to sell! Do you think the "MEN" are going to buy that?" Idiots

Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:24 PM
COMMENT:
"But, but, but . . . we have a PICTURE BOOK of the kids to sell! Do you think the "MEN" are going to buy that?" Idiots" --- Sure they'll buy it. The pages will be stuck together three days later but Katie will have that cool $20 in her pocket - all that really matters to her.
She didn't do her homework...
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:24 PM
COMMENT:
If the author was so eager to display the facts, why did she only use hate blogs as her sources? She actively posted in every negative blog on the Internet for people to come forward with their "dirt" about the Gosselins? Why didn't she interview Paul Petersen, who has not spoken in public about the Gosselins since last October? This is irresponsible journalism at its best... a rehash of rumors and inuendoes from sites who actively denigrate the Gosselins every day. Philadephia Magazine should be ashamed...
Explain *this* J&K fans
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:26 PM
COMMENT:
If the posters at GWOP are only there to snark on Kate and trash Jon and the kids, why then did they make no mention of Jon's recent bar hopping in Reading- complete with photos? Hmmm? {{{{sound of crickets}}}} Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought. One of you followers of the Kult of Kate actually tried to say you emailed J&Ks PR people and the PR person said it wasn't Jon in the photos. LOL! There's something quite pathetic about grown women LYING to cover the butts of their favorite reality TV child exploiters.
Buck Stops At TLC
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:26 PM
COMMENT:
I have a feeling that Jon and Kate Gosselin are going to blame their bad decisions on the network. I wonder if Discovery will be included in their lawsuit against TLC . . .
Agreed!
Posted by Katie | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:28 PM
COMMENT:
I was about to post pretty much what Jen just said. What exactly is everyone supposed to be "jealous" of? Admittedly their children are adorable, but I bet you most moms think their children are much cuter. Am I jealous that Kate treats her husband atrociously? The way she talks to her husband embaresses me even. Should I be jealous that her husband has no...uhh..can't stand up for himself? HAH! Hilarious. Oh man nothing is sexier than a spineless whiny husband. Oh you are right..I am completely jealous that they are UNEMPLOYED and somehow *magically* own a 1.3 million dollar home..sarcasm. Oh yes to the person who said whoever "attacks" JKP8 is on "disability" HAHAH the IRONY! Then WTH are they on?? Living off of donations and being unemployed? So you pretty much just described Kate. Can't support herself and "homebound" ( I assume meaning stay-at-home mom). 'Nuh-uh!,' you chant. 'They don't embaress their children on TV for money!' Then tell me, how do they make the money? You tell m
Lawsuit
Posted by Katrina | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM
COMMENT:
I don't get it. Didn't Jon & Kate write in their book Multiple Blessings that Jon was fired because the former boss didn't want to pay insurance? If that's a lie why wouldn't the former boss/company be filing a lawsuit?
Brilliant
Posted by Liz | Feb. 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM
COMMENT:
BRILLIANT article. Love it.
to: I Don't Get It : RE: LAWSUIT
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:44 PM
COMMENT:
I think maybe because the former employer was a friend of Jon's parents. Maybe he hired him out of pity, and out of pity didn't want to embarrass Jon's dad and mom. Probably just fed up with the lies now. And Jon's dad has passed and his mom doesn't seem to be in the picture any more, so maybe he decided to come forth and clear up the lie.
Thank you!
Posted by moonsinleo | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:45 PM
COMMENT:
Brava Jess for a well-written, thought provoking article. Hopefully the powers that be will enact legislation to prevent this exploitation from happening ever again.
MerryRoz
Posted by Merry | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:48 PM
COMMENT:
I was really hoping for more from this story. The amataurish writing didn't help. I felt like I was reading a piece about Britney from OK Magazine. While I realize this publication isn't the Atlantic Monthly, it was still a disappointment.I don't know why you couldn't have stuck to the few main issues that need attention (children in reality tv, the poor parenting, etc) instead of presenting rumors about Beth or commenting that Kate dresses too young for her age. Where you paid by the word? LOL.
To Proud GWoP member Andi
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM
COMMENT:
This quote doesn't concern one of the kids being called fat but the poster calls the kids brats. Read this in a hurry. GWoP deletes that which they cannot defend as they did when several of their posters called the cameraman that shot Mady rolling aroubd on the basement floor a pedophile. 12/16/2008 5:28 AM And Hannah smacking Alexis for no apparent reason. B R A T S _______ I would not be surprised one bit if KON encouraged her to hit the others. She is the 'leader' and the 'second mom' after all. Disgusting. Someone else said it was nice to see no Hannag favoritism. It would not be Jon and Kate+8 without that! When they were wrapping gifts she had to defend Hannie when another child (Alexis?) was crying over a gift she wanted to help with. "Hannah did pick that out", said Kate. click here

Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM
COMMENT:
"If the posters at GWOP are only there to snark on Kate and trash Jon and the kids, why then did they make no mention of Jon's recent bar hopping in Reading- complete with photos? Hmmm?"This information WAS posted on GWoP. They took it down Sunday night (same thing they did with all the Penn Mommy stuff). GWoP would make a great expose itself actually! LMAO.
Lawsuit
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM
COMMENT:
When Jon and Kate were bringing the tups home two at a time (I live in Central PA) they called a press conference each time. They plugged the website, cried poor and worked the Jon was fired tale at each one. Mr. Rothermel did have Jon request a retraction in at least one newspaper article where he said it. As far as the book? Since Jon didn't mention the employer by name that might be how they got away with it. To the poster who said GWOP didn't mention Jon's hangin' with the kids in the bars... the mods didn't post a topic on it or post the pictures but some of the posters did mention it. Just thought I'd clarify since the 'fans' are so quick to shred anything GWOP does to pieces.
Not Helping
Posted by Anonymous | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:55 PM
COMMENT:
If all you can do is come here and talk about GWoP posters, well, you're not helping out your idol, Kate Gosselin. By posting comments about the show (things that happened on the show) people will come here to read the article and google the site you keep harping on and find out so much more. More than they'll want to know about the Gosselin family. Nice work.

Posted by Megan | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:08 PM
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"If the posters at GWOP are only there to snark on Kate and trash Jon and the kids, why then did they make no mention of Jon's recent bar hopping in Reading- complete with photos? Hmmm?"GWoP posted this and took it down Sunday night. Same thing they did with the Penn Mommy stuff.GWoP would make a great topic for an expose itself. LMAO. I can just imagine Sharla and Serena duking it out over whether they are a child advocate site OR just a snarking site.
 
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