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He Said, They Said

By Dan P. Lee

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And it was that argument, apparently, that won the day with the jury of 12.

There were nine blacks and three whites; six of the blacks were women, as were two of the whites. From the start, the racial composition didn’t bode well for the prosecution. “The jury was a catch-22, because black women tend not to be sympathetic to white women, but also tend to be really unsympathetic to white men; the dicey part of the jury was the black women,” says a city D.A. who didn’t participate in the prosecution but has knowledge of the case. The prosecutor “was lucky to get the three whites he did,” with the jury pool in Philadelphia so heavily African-American. “Philadelphia juries are notorious for being horrible in sex cases” for the prosecution, the D.A. says.

According to the African-American juror I interviewed — the first and only juror to have spoken publicly, who would come forward only on the condition of anonymity — all was amicable in the first moments of deliberation. Until, he said, it was time to pick a foreperson, a position one of the middle-aged white women desperately wanted. The majority of the jury instead wanted an outspoken African-American man, and the juror said the woman reacted bitterly: “She was going to make our job rough, hard.” The jury took an initial poll. It was 11 to one to acquit on all charges, according to the juror; the lone holdout was the would-be forewoman. She would dig her heels in for five days.

They began going through each woman’s story. Virtually all of them could not get beyond the women engaging Marsalis after the fact. The women, to the jurors, were “sour grapes”; they’d been led on by the investigators who contacted them, trolling for victims. “He was a playboy,” the juror said, co-opting Hexstall’s language. “Men sit there and just — hey, if you believe he’s an astronaut, that’s on you. We didn’t think he was guilty because he said he was an astronaut to a person. And, you know, the CIA stuff? I mean, come on, you never know who works for the CIA, so we didn’t believe that, either.”

As the jury worked its way through the stories, with everyone voting not guilty, the lone holdout would vote guilty. “She would go back into saying, ‘All the women were saying the same thing. They wouldn’t do this, they wouldn’t spend the whole night with a person, if they weren’t drugged,’ and she just thought like he really put something in their drinks. But we couldn’t try a person on something that they never presented to us.”


 

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WORDS FOR MARSALIS
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 12:44 AM
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Psychologically speaking, directly to Marsalis, because I know you are reading this. You drugged them b/c you are so afraid of women you are afraid they won’t like it when you have sex with them, so you drug them and rape them out of your own fear that you will never please them. You have major issues of hatred for your mom, and you are afraid of her for ways she abused you. So you see every woman you ever meet as capable of hurting you like your mom did. At the same time you are afraid to grow up and actually make something of yourself so you lie to these women to get them to date you, and knowing all you are is a lie, you then realize you can never ever satisfy the types of women you rape. And that is why you rape them. Really you are angry at your mother and you need major therapy, which you may or may not get in jail when you end up there.
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?"
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:20 AM
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Date rape happens to 1 in 4 women. THIS IS A FACT. I have been in therapy 2 years trying to understand the rape that happened to me in the fall of 1999 (8 years ago), my senior year in college. I too re-engaged with my rapist hoping to “make it go away” or “regain control,” to actively suppress it. I felt I deserved what I got. I was embarrassed, I didn’t want to admit something that trashy and gross happened to me. I didn’t think anyone would someday want to marry a woman who was “RAPED.” I was so removed from what happened to me, I didn’t even get it that my rapist had INTENDED to cause me HARM. Plus, no one I knew was willing to call it rape, much less to do something about it, or help me do something about it, and the rapist himself (just like Marsalis) did all he could to convince me it wasn’t rape, but rather my twisted imagination. So it was not just me who made the whole situation fuzzy and hard to understand. The most I could do at the time was write it out.
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?" (continued)
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:20 AM
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I wrote out my feelings and shared them in the writing class where I’d met my rapist, and I shared them aloud as part of an assignment, in front of my rapist and the rest of the class. And though I never named him, everyone including the prof, knew exactly who I was talking about. This was the best I could do at the time. Somehow my description of my confusion, powerlessness, and that fuzzy desire to regain control after the fact made him stop pursuing me (as I’d intended) after my reading, but about 6 weeks later he made a final attempt to try to seduce me. I couldn’t believe this RAPIST had no shame, no comprehension of my disgust, no fear of reprisal, and obviously no regard for my personal well-being. But as I now understand it better in therapy, I see that it was never about anything but power to him from the start.
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?" (continued)
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:20 AM
COMMENT:
My rapist raped me believing he had the right to harm me, he knew it was wrong the second it was over when he refused to leave my dorm room unless I swore to him I would never ever tell anyone it happened. But still, he somehow convinced himself it didn’t happen, just as I wanted to convince myself it didn’t happen. When he spread rumors around the school that I raped him, that is when I wrote my paper. It was my attempt at clarity and health and TRUTH. But none of these apply to a rapist, who is only after taking power from someone with intent to harm them by it. When he tried to approach me again 6 weeks after my class reading, it was him trying to seize power and malign me all over again (luckily I walked away). And that’s why RAPE is, a CRIME OF POWER and VIOLENCE, not a crime of passion or sex.
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?" (continued)
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:25 AM
COMMENT:
To a rapist, sex is about power. And it was clear from the article that this sick individual, Marsalis, is all about power. Lying is about power too. His combination of lies, drugs, and raping is a SICK SICK method of trying to destroy the women with whom he comes into contact. The most powerful and disturbing evidence about this case is Marsalis’s obvious INTENT to RAPE (i.e. intent to HARM) his victims! He DRUGGED THESE WOMEN for the purpose of raping them! How did no one seem to understand that? How did the jury glaze over the use of “DATE-RAPE DRUGS” and not count that as a strike against him? When Marsalis drugged these women, he did it before they even left the bar, or restaurant, or wherever. He didn’t even give them a chance to WILLINGLY have sex.
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?" (continued)
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:25 AM
COMMENT:
Probably most of these woman, who admitted they were impressed by/attracted to him, would have willingly conceded. The ISSUE here is that he didn’t want them to willingly have sex, he WANTED to RAPE them. This is not about “sour grapes” on the part of the women involved. The term “sour grapes” implies regret or envy for a missed opportunity. The only opportunity these women missed was the opportunity to say “NO” when he drugged them so they could say yes when he wanted sex from them. Marsalis seemed to be doing a fine job of convincing these women he was a real catch and in defense attorney, Hexstall’s, painfully invalidating words, they would have “wanted to get down” with “Dr. Jeff.” The point of the trial was not the fact of whether they would concede before they passed out, or after they passed out, but rather that they DID NOT CONCEEDE the time he RAPED them. And that makes it RAPE. He drugged them regardless of whether or not they were a “sure thing”—he drugged them because he WA
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?" (continued)
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:25 AM
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My father emotionally abused me as a child. I had no choice but to assume I deserved it, because after all, no one would treat their CHILD badly if it wasn’t deserved, right? Like many women, the ill-treatment, or neglect from my father (or male role-model) growing up, later on landed me in bed with a deceiving ego-maniac, high on cocaine (something I’d never seen), who was going to do whatever he wanted to me regardless of my will. My father, who used to tickle me until I peed my pants long after I said “STOP,” would shame me for getting upset about it. When I tried to tell my own Dad that what he did was hurting me, he made fun of me for being “too sensitive” and ordered me to “cut it out.” So I never learned to feel righteous in saying “STOP.” I never learned it was okay, or that I was allowed to do it. And when the time came for it to save me from being raped, I couldn’t even figure out how I felt. I just lay there, taking it, just as I’d had to take the emotional abuse of my fathe
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?" (continued)
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:25 AM
COMMENT:
I think the answer to “why” these victims returned to their rapist is the same as why they were unhealthy enough to get duped into dating him in the first place: they didn’t want to come to terms with the horror, shock, embarrassment, and destruction that had befallen them. And, it was also their ego. Like me, they couldn’t admit that they’d been violated in that awful, disgusting way that only happens to underprivileged, unsavory, uneducated, unsophisticated characters who deserve for it to happen. Right? Because bad things happen to bad people, right? With all their knowledge, and power, and accomplishment, and ambitiousness, and good looks, and whatever else made them special, they couldn’t believe it could actually happen to them. That is why they wanted to “make it better” by revisiting their abuser. They couldn’t believe the R-word applied to them. The couldn’t believe someone had the nerve to burst their bubble of safety and willfully harm them. It hurts, ladies, I know.
Answering Lee's Question of "WHY?" (continued)
Posted by Anonymous | Sep. 29, 2007 at 3:31 AM
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Be it socialization or upbringing these women are suffering from an inability to figure out what they wanted and did not want. I am willing to bet anything that there was a history of violation in all these women’s pasts (be it emotional and/or physical) and none of them had sufficiently dealt with it. The fact that they never got over prior abuse led them to being vulnerable enough to respond to this person in the first place. And their vulnerability led them to being raped. And they revisited their rapist for the same reason I did, because they thought (in a very childish way) that they could make it better, like trying to put a Band-Aid on a severed leg. Had they all gone to therapy to figure out WHY before going on trial, they’d have had no problem explaining to this jury—a jury whose majority might view itself as a racially oppressed, abused, assaulted, and possibly empathize with them for it— that the truth of their assault was just too painful to bear.
It shouldn't matter
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 4, 2007 at 1:40 PM
COMMENT:
It shouldn't matter what happened "after" the rape. The prosecutors are dropping the ball on this. All that should matter and all that should be presented to a jury is that the woman was drugged prior to having sex, was never given an opportunity to give permission or to reject the sexual intercourse, and so was not a conscious participant. That alone should be enough to prove rape. Not saying "no" is not and never has been the same as saying "yes".
Cultural Issues
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 5, 2007 at 9:15 AM
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One point often missed in situations such as this is that our society gives females the tools to fail at the game being played here. A typically preppy looking, supposedly successful man is seen as unthreatening, like Ted Bundy, whom I hear is one of Marsalis's heroes. At the same time women are expected to find the perfect mate and to be the perfect woman. These are socio-cultural expectations that run very deeply in one's psychy and reach beyond the psychological explanations for these types of crimes. This may also help to explain why these victims attempted to continue relationships with a psychopath. The attempt to "normalize" a situation is based in socio-pychological thought processes.
wow
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 9, 2007 at 1:26 PM
COMMENT:
Holy Sh*t, wow, Anonymous. I haven't even read the article and I can tell already that your comments should BE the article. Congrats on standing up proud in a world where psychology has proven that people would rather believe that bad things happen to bad people than realize that bad people do bad things willfully to good people.
Sick to my stomach
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 15, 2007 at 8:51 AM
COMMENT:
Marsalis makes me want to vomit, not just because of what he did but also what he makes me remember. I too re-engaged my rapist and I'm not sure I'll ever know why entirely. It wouldn't be until 3 years later that not only would I finally call it rape but I'd learn my reaction to it was in fact very common. My heart goes out to Marsalis' victims. It shouldn't happen to anyone :-(
Let me explain WHY!
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 15, 2007 at 1:01 PM
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Unfortuantley, I too have been the victim of this violation. In my case it was a trusted aquaintance and extremley influlentional and powerful Philadelphian. It has taken me almost a year and half to understand the counter intuitive reactions that were triggered by this violaltion. Not only was I physically violated but my entire world, as I knew it, was destroyed by the gravity of the violation of TRUST. Following my initial encounter I "spiraled out of control" and the only way that I thought I could regain any decency or control in my life was by returning to the scene ( it became an obsession) with this individual to either; rewrite history or take control of the situation myself. Perhaps once and for all people will understand that a woman acting counterintuively, does not make sense when you are on the outside looking in, yet time and time again women that have experienced this trauma repeat the same pattern hoping somehow to absolve themselves in the process rather than deal w
Of course this happens...
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 15, 2007 at 6:15 PM
COMMENT:
...when you put a bunch of uneducated borderline-prostitutes on the jury, then refuse to allow evidence that might educate them.
Thank You Philly Mag
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 16, 2007 at 7:41 AM
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Thank you Philly Mag. for addressing a very important issue. Perhaps it is time that we launch a movement to have the Pennsylvania Law changed and to allow testimonoy by experts that specialize in the psychology of rape victimms and the post traumatic stress disorder that ensues such a violation. This way a jury will have the opportunity to understand what happens to a woman's psychology when she has been sexually violated. Unquestionably, this sort of testimony by experts in the field would ensure a fair trial by intorducing "resonable doubt" in the minds of a jury by allowing them to understand the documented responses that women implement to try to heal themselves after such a trauma. It seems to me that our archaic Pa. laws are upheld today( mostly by men) to protect their fellow predators and even in some cases themselves! I suggest we use the momentum from this articl to contact our State Senators as well as our Federal Senator. Please keep posting so that we can mak
Watch out
Posted by Anonymous | Oct. 24, 2007 at 1:40 PM
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this man will get what is coming to him. I applaud Philly Mag for telling this disturbing story, and hope internet daters are reading. Never go ANYWHERE with a stranger you meet online, and never ever leave your drink unattended!
Justice finally served
Posted by Anonymous | Nov. 19, 2007 at 10:40 AM
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10-17-07: Thirty-four-year-old Marsalis, a former Wood River Valley resident, was sentenced to 21 years in prison last Friday in Philadelphia on two felony counts of sexual assault and one misdemeanor charge of unlawful restraint. He must serve at least half his prison time in the Philadelphia convictions before he is eligible for parole. In September Marsalis will be extradited to Blaine County, Idaho, regardless of the sentence imposed in Philadelphia. Then, Marsalis will be brought to Idaho around the first of the year with a trial likely in the spring of 2008. On account of rape charges brought by one of his victims who is a lesbian. His lie to police that he didn't have sex with her was deemed false, after his victim tested positive for his presence and her acknowledgment that she would not have voluntarily had sex with him, as she is a lesbian. To all you victims of Marsalis', from this nice guy you never met and who is happily married, you are beautiful, you can find th
Justice Finally Served
Posted by Anonymous | Nov. 19, 2007 at 10:54 AM
COMMENT:
you can find the man of your dreams, just keep trying. Nothing in life is easy unfortunately, don't give up! click here
Justice Finally Served
Posted by Anonymous | Nov. 19, 2007 at 10:54 AM
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..the rest of the story at: click here
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