Why New Yorkers Are Moving to Philly and What It Means for Our City

After 9/11, scores of tired, disenchanted and financially strapped New Yorkers began moving into Philadelphia to begin new lives. Here, one Big Apple transplant explains what the influx has wrought.

On a rainy Tuesday, I am hanging out with a group of New York City expat parents. (O­liver Peoples eyeglasses, check; hair by SoHo’s Devachan, check; fierce Rick Owens booties, check; rat-a-tat-tat verbal volley, check.) We’ve gathered at a child-sized table at Chestnut Hill’s Waldorf-inspired indoor playspace in the Little Treehouse—a magnet for New York families (wooden play structures! African-themed artwork!)—to talk about why we all left.

Leitmotifs emerge. “We had a one-bedroom apartment, and our son lived in the dining room.” “Our window looked out onto a concrete courtyard of trash cans and roaches, and a rat came out of our toilet.” “We could only afford to live in Queens—why the hell would we move to Queens? For Indian food?” “Who cares about the Met, off-Broadway and the new ‘It’ restaurant if you can’t afford it, especially with young kids?”

Now, the responses to moving to Philadelphia: “We got a five-bedroom house with a yard and a pool for less than our cruddy apartment!” “Brooklyn says it’s diverse, but neighborhood by neighborhood, it’s not. In our neighborhood in Mount Airy, there are black kids, white kids, mixed kids, lesbian couples, mixed couples—it’s nirvana!” “We can do our work anywhere, so long as we’re within spitting distance of New York and D.C.—why the hell didn’t we come here earlier?”

It’s a haunting question. I, for one, felt that New York had become the protagonist in my life, entering as Holly Golightly-meets-Horatio Alger and, by the third act, morphing into Richard III. My kingdom, horse—all sacked by the Big Apple. This might explain why so many of us have the dazed look of returning veterans, though our battle was of the bourg-y socioeconomic variety. We lost it in New York, but we see hope in Philly.

You’ve seen us on playgrounds in Chestnut Hill and West Mount Airy, all in black, clutching espressos, waxing ecstatically about how “cheap!” and “pretty!” everything is here, while our Ramones-clad little ones run around giddily. We may look and sound insufferable, but the truth is, we’re stunned. Everything is so much nicer—the houses, the people, the landscape—that it can take months for post-
traumatic effects to wane. To wit, on the first night in my new house, I stayed up all night unpacking kitchen boxes. At around 4 a.m., I heard a rattling sound. Oh, God, I thought. Rats. It was the automatic ice-cube-maker. I burst into tears.

You’ve seen us thumbing approvingly through racks of clothing on 3rd Street in Old City, the local version of 9th Street and Avenue A, or North 6th Street in Williamsburg. We’re openmouthed at the killer artisanal jewelry of designers like J. Rudy Lewis and Bario-Neal—and even more agog that they’re not at Barneys and scandalously out of our price range.

“I love all the New Yorkers moving here—they really get it,” Heather Stauffer, who owns the Chestnut Hill boutique Roots (could be on Smith Street in BoCoCa!), says to me one day as I greedily snatch up a pair of Helmut Lang-ish shorts. Stauffer laughs. She hasn’t been able to get any native Philadelphian to try them on. “I mean,” she says, “you never have to explain to a New Yorker why a linen sundress by an indie designer costs $300.”

Since I’m one of battalions of New York women who, in their 20s, lived on yogurt to buy the baguette bag that cost more than a month’s rent, she didn’t have to explain it to me. But like anyone long pummeled by the cost of living in New York, I hadn’t indulged in a Carrie Bradshaw daydream in years. To many of us, it’s been a revelation that we can splurge on a little fashiony treat every now and then.

Or a big treat, like private school. “I think that’s part of the value equation,” one NY-Delphian mother says. “You can afford to buy a house and send your kids to private school.” We’ve quickly ascertained that in Philadelphia, the public-school record is, well, not great (she says kindly). But with what we’re saving elsewhere, many NY-Delphians pay up. You can’t miss us in admissions offices, jockeying for spots. True story: An admissions director at a wonderful school to which my children applied (think Dalton, with a Quaker vibe) told me she always reassures panicked New Yorkers that they don’t have to claim that “this is their absolute first choice”—with so many first-rate schools here, there is no bad decision. Later, a turbo-charged Manhattan expat mom told me about another wonderful school (think Saint Ann’s, with a Quaker vibe) where “all the New York parents send their kids.” Just make sure, she advised, to say that it was my “absolute first choice.”

I’ll tell you something else: You’ve definitely seen us if you’re a real estate broker. And though you may be sick of us squeezing another property viewing into a 29-listing day, you also kind of love us. “New Yorkers are a lot of realtors’ favorite clients, because they’re so grateful!” says Kathie Fox, the Prudential Fox & Roach agent who sold me my house—and to whom I apologized profusely for working her to the bone. But there were so many gorgeous, affordable places, and I wanted to see them all. It’s a common reaction, she says: “Honestly, New Yorkers go out of their minds when they see what their money can buy here.”

But I’ve discovered that it’s not just the bourgeois accoutrements that draw us. Rather, it’s Philly’s energy. Things seem possible here.

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  • Christian Harris

    There are some great public schools in Philly, you just have to find them.

    • Inquizative

      Yes, there is. Central High, where my son goes, is an excellent choice. I suggest to first try to find a “public” school first. Those charter schools, I don’t trust because they are profit driven and when that’s the case, profit comes before education.

  • anonymous


  • KG18

    So wait… they talked about the diversity of where they live in Philly – but questioned why they would want to live in Queens???? Queens is the most diverse place in the United States!!

    • Danielle Thomas

      Philly is Not Diverse.

      We are a City of Neighborhoods and if you are not of the same race as that neighborhood people there can make you feel Very uncomfortable; like some years ago Kensington was a neighborhood that if a Black person, even a lone female, merely walked through she might get beat up by whatever Whites saw her, including White children, and even in the afternoon on a very public street. Many of those White people still live in Kensington and neighborhoods like Kensington, and raised their children to be of the same barbarous racist mindset. So although, you may not be beat up they can; nevertheless, make you feel very uncomfortable, including trashing your house.

      Philly still has a way to go when it comes to diversity but they have improved.

  • cmp

    hey anonymous – you’re an idiot. There is the well known Independence Hall you speak of, but there is also the Indy Hall she speaks of. Why don’t you take 5 seconds to google before you spew crap from your mouth. (p.s. to the author – your NYC ways may be strange and different from ours, but we’re glad to have you back in philly)

  • Illidelphia

    I think the moral of this story is this: It’s always better to live in a place that’s underrated than a place that’s overrated. Welcome to Philly, you must have good taste. That being said, what separates the cool, gritty, artsy, hip culture in Philly from the swanky, vain elitism of much of NYC is the fact that the vast majority of us still believe dropping $300 on a sun dress is stupid. Once there is a critical mass of people like you, Philly will start to feel a lot like NYC: out of touch and pointlessly overpriced.

  • Gus

    My beautiful Philadelphia!!! On the Rise….i’m moving back from New York.

  • Charles

    Loving the fact that Philadelphia is once again recognized as on of the fastest growing cities, I have decided to move my Family and my business back home! Great oppurtunities are looming there for the smart investor. Just think about what you’ve been paying, and what you could be paying now…”Yes to Philly” I’m on my way!!!

  • Philadelphia is a good place to live.People are prefer to move to the Philadelphia due to the reasons like food,sports,diverse neighborhoods, and low cost of living.As Charles said Great opportunities are looming there for the smart investor. If you’re looking for affordable living, then it’s time to move to Philadelphia- America’s next great city.

  • tsol

    “Citizens in each of the five boroughs packed up their belongings and
    told reporters they would rather blow their brains out with a shotgun
    than spend another waking moment in this festering cesspool of filth and
    scum and sadness.”

    Exactly how I felt about Philly when I lived there in the 90s. A more hateful, narrow-minded, peasant-suspicious unwelcoming violent place I’ve never seen in my entire life. Just stay the fuck away from the Italians, Irish, blacks and everyone else and you’ll be ok. Also stay away from the crass NE Philly, Cherry Hill and Manayunk imbeciles. And watch out for the snobby, arrogant elitist Penn professors and students and the patronizing Main Liners, Chestnut Hill and Rittenhouse Square residents.

    In fact, fuck Philly and all of it’s inbred urban yokel natives.

    • Inquizative

      Initially I though of writing a kind letter to you. Then I thought, maybe he’s too overwhelmed with anger and emotion. Wow, what could have happened? Take care, and I hope you find happiness elsewhere.
      -A typical Philly person, peace!

    • LoverNHater

      Why are Italians or even Irish on the list? ;)

      • Danielle Thomas

        Because, like many Whites in Philly they definitely belong there!

  • Gerald Kolpan

    I moved here from New York in 1970.

    Our cool places and unique neighborhoods aren’t a New York “version” of ANYTHING considering that most of them were already operational when Harlem was a farmer’s field.

    And trust me, if New York had places like 9th street and Reading Terminal Market, they long ago would have become havens for tourists and rich schmucks.

    The thing most New Yorkers take years to figure out is that in Philly, family, clan and neighborhood come first and money is a very distant second. In Philadelphia, Donald Trump would be seen for what he is – a stupid vulgarian – and nobody, rich or poor, would talk to him.

    Let’s face it: New York lost it’s soul…its little book stores, it’s curio shops, its funky restaurants, its beatnik bars and Greek coffee shops…years ago. Now it’s a lot like everywhere else only completely unaffordable unless you’re one of those aforementioned rich schmucks.

    It’s still real here, folks. I hope we can keep it that way.

    • realposter

      what are you talking about? No Greek coffee shops?? Ever been to Astoria? “funky restaurants”? what does that even mean? PPl got restaurants to eat good food… and there is plenty of it from every corner of the globe. Whether it’s Russian food in Brighton Beach to Korean food in Flushing to Puerto Rican anywhere in The Bronx or seafood on City Island… you’re just off.

      you basically just sound jealous. Donald Trump didn’t grow up in Philly… and nobody in NY even pays him much attention… That’s you out of towners who watch too much television.

      • Brophy

        I think what he means is that there are very few “authentic” places left in NYC. The allure of NYC, at least for me, was the rich history of every corner, the music clubs in the city, the identifiable neighborhoods,etc… Sure, there’s Russian/Korean/Spanish restaurants here, but many of them have opened up within the past 5-10 years. You can find those restaurants in any big city. The restaurants and places that made NYC unique are disappearing. Most of the neighborhood bars are gone. Any music club that doesn’t cater to electronic music/hip-hop is gone. As a native NYer, I can’t stand the fact that everything in this city has been built to attract tourists. Those “funky restaurants” have largely been run out by restaurant chains, skyrocketing rents, and/or Bloomberg’s relentless fines. NYC is beginning to look like Disneyland and all the things that native New Yorkers loved are nearly extinct. If I could find a good everything bagel outside of NYC, I’d have already moved myself.

        • realposter

          the only ppl I hear complain is the ppl who can’t afford their rent. the vast majority of ppl enjoy the improved quality of life. i have no idea what you re trying to say if you think there are no identifiable neighborhoods. Guess what – things change. cities work by supply and demand. there is great demand foR NYC from all around the world… so it’s expensive. it’s really that simple.
          if you don’t like it you should move to “any big cITY”. Are you with a straight face going to tell me living in houston or Las vegas is in any way like living in NYc or Philly itself?

  • joe

    The new Yorkers are being driven out by liberal policies run wild and oddly enough these bozo’s voted for the policies that drove them out and being from fishtown it was not that long ago when you could go a whole day and not see any black people and now I see at least 5 a day and I don’t like this trend. I don’t want to see fishtown become a ghetto with high crime and violence.

  • Diana

    I’m commenting on the post referring to blacks turning philly Into a ghetto. As a former New Yorker ( not from the city but from Long Island) I love Philly. Now I do experience the racial indifference but I think it’s simply the whites not understanding the melting pot that is New York. Are their ghetto blacksSure ! Just like there is white trash. It’s time we start judging people rather than their skin tone. I personally won’t live in certain areas of philly not due to race but class. I have a career and so does my husband and I have no desire to raise my children around people that don’t share the same values as I do. I currently live in Burlhome (northeast) but I’m making plans to move to cheltenham not because of blacks ( because I’m black myself) but because of a certain type of person that is a drain on our economy