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Everything You Know About Philly Real Estate Is Wrong

By Christine Speer

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The optimism regarding continued growth in Center City is widespread — and heartening. “I think we’re in the hands of a great mayor,” Domb says. “And that’s huge for the city. For the past eight years, we’ve had no job growth, and in spite of it managed to grow. Imagine if we can bring jobs into the community — and I think we can, now. You gotta put your money on Mayor Nutter, that he’s going to bring people and business into the city.”

What it may mean to you: More shopping, restaurants and arts in Center City — and, down the road, more jobs, fewer cars as people adapt to a more walkable lifestyle, and better city schools as Philly strives to keep all its new taxpayers. We hope.


PERCEPTION 9.
So many condos, so fast, is going to mean the same oversupply we’ve seen with traditional homes.

The Philly reality: When it comes to condos, “Not only has Philly not overbuilt,” says Tom Scannapieco, president of Scannapieco Development, “but for a long time, I think Philly under-built. The city is catching up now, and navigating the cycle better than any city of our size.” Furthermore, says Sweet, overbuilding would be more of a concern if conversion projects weren’t an option. But the simple fact that condos can — if need be — be rented as apartments, should there be a surfeit of unsalable properties on the market, is a safety net. Nobody appears to be too concerned about current supply overshooting the demand for condos, especially considering that a new generation of upwardly mobile Gen Y’ers is entering the urban market — with money.

“I know the existing condo market has very little inventory available,” Domb says. “At the Wanamaker House [at 20th and Walnut], there are 333 residences. Three are available right now.”

But what about the fact that new condos are taking about twice as long to sell as they did two years ago? “People are taking longer to buy now,” Iezzi says. “They have more choice, and they’re looking around. But they are eventually buying. The market also appears slower because we’re talking about a lot of million-dollar condos, and Philly’s not used to that.”

Agreed, says Sweet. “The current sluggishness in the condo market in Center City is attributable to developers focusing on the million-dollar buyer, rather than on the larger pool of people looking for homes in the $350,000 to $650,000 range.”

But we’d all better get used to the million-dollar mark: “That’s going to be the new magic number,” Iezzi says. And what’s more: “The bottom will not hit with condos, I don’t think. Because they’re working with all the best places — Rittenhouse Square, Washington Square, the waterfront.”


 

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It's different here!
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 2, 2008 at 8:08 AM
COMMENT:
And the disconnect and denial continues. The favorite realtor mantra "It's different here!" is even tried on a derelict city like Philly.
Thanks for the article PhillyMag!
Posted by Remax City Space | Mar. 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM
COMMENT:
We'll be asking all of our nervous clients who have fallen prey to Mr. Lauer's bubble bursting charms to pick up a copy of the March Issue.
Finally, the truth and numbers are in writing!
Posted by Ryan Quinn | Mar. 5, 2008 at 8:27 PM
COMMENT:
I want to thank the Philadelphia Magazine for doing this article and letting the home owners of Philadelphia know what's going on in our specific market. These are the things that I've been saying for quite sometime. THANKS!
Reversal of Fortune?
Posted by Sandy Bennett | Mar. 6, 2008 at 5:23 AM
COMMENT:
Interesting but highly-expected tactic by Ms. Smerconish and her ilk. Now who, among the well-heeled, BMW-driving realtors, will explain to the Philly area populace just how logical it is to see the obscene increase in prices over the last 6 years? Game time over. Better start looking to lease a Volkswagon, Ms. S.
Well, Of Course....
Posted by Herb Zimmerman | Mar. 8, 2008 at 9:39 PM
COMMENT:
Let us not forget that Lavinia Smerconish (How Matt Lauer Is Wrecking the Philly Real Estate Market, March 2008) has a couple of very good reasons to "talk up the real estate market". For one, the more homes that sell the more she is likely to pocket. And, likewise, the more they sell for, the more she makes. Of course, she wants to paint as bullish a picture of the real estate landscape as she possibly can. Have you ever heard a Real Estate Agent paint a negative picture?
and....
Posted by ben franklin | Mar. 9, 2008 at 9:05 AM
COMMENT:
recession is local too, right?
Reality at its best
Posted by Thea Stinnett | Mar. 9, 2008 at 3:51 PM
COMMENT:
It is wonderful to finaly have the facts about the current real estate market published for the the public to see. Media is doing a good job with scaring people out of making a good investment in real estate. Thank you for writing this article. I hope it gets people to call their local Realtor for information about the market in their area. Realtors have the facts.
^^^Facts?^^^
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 10, 2008 at 8:29 AM
COMMENT:
There was hardly anything factual about this article. "Realtors have the facts" - are you on crack? Realtors have the same incentive as any other salesperson does - making money and generating business. What a load of BS. On a side note to the editor, will you please rename this magazine Main Line Today, because really, it's the same thing.
Thea Stinnett is a Bucks Cty. Realtor
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 10, 2008 at 8:45 AM
COMMENT:
Realtors obviously do know best when it comes to marketing themselves.
Real Estate Article Backs Right on to Gay Sex Parlors Article
Posted by Anonymous | Mar. 14, 2008 at 9:19 AM
COMMENT:
Got the March Issue because of the Philly Real Estate article - wanted to pull out the article and tables of home prices to discuss with others, just right up until I realized a photo of a half naked man with a provokative headline about gay sex parlors was on the back of the last page of tables. You couldn't have separated those articles by an advertisement? And since I live in one of the towns on that last page of tables, the part that pertains to me was unusable and could not be shared. Thanks for being so sensitive to that part of the population who isn't on the edge of their seats regarding sex parlor real estate. Most of us are only interested in the real estate that our sofa sits on!
transaction costs
Posted by Jamalogist . | Mar. 16, 2008 at 12:09 PM
COMMENT:
Don't forget, prices here don't actually have to drop at all, for someone to lose when it comes time to sell. Thanks to the 2% buy / 2% sell transfer tax, you will lose 4% even if prices remain completely flat. Combined with 6% broker fee, 1% title insurance, that's 11% right there, even if you sell exactly for the same price. Still think it's a rosy picture?
Rosey Picture
Posted by Savannah Stiles | Apr. 28, 2008 at 9:00 AM
COMMENT:
Its 2% total transfer tax (1% to buyer, 1% seller), not 4%. Also, if you are smart, you won't pay 6% in commissions. Some realtors are dropping their commissions to 5% in order to compete with discount brokers like Assist.2.Sell who will sell for as low as 4% or 1.5%. Buyers are saving money now that mortgage rates are under 6%. And many companies also offer seller and buyer rebates, saving their clients $1,000s more! Its not a rosey picture, but it sure isn't the slippery slope that some people are portraying. And another note: not all realtors are money sucking fact distortors, expecially in this market. I care about my clients and my reputation. If all I cared about was money, I would switch to something like car sales.

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